Comment Re:Logos 10

Thank you for Logos 10. I updated all the feature sets per my usual procedure and will be updating my various libraries to 10 Silver as finances permit.

One comment and then I promise to keep my big trap shut as so many of my friends have suggested. Perhaps it's my age (84), but I'd really like to see very narrow vertical and horizontal lines on my page separating the various boxes and columns. Sometimes I find myself getting lost thinking my cursor is in my Bible when It's not, etcetera.

That's it. God bless.
Gerry

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xnman

Gerald --- Congratulations on living a long life! Hopefully God will bless me with such!

Wolfgang Schneider

Perhaps it's my age (84), but I'd really like to see very narrow vertical and horizontal lines on my page separating the various boxes and columns. Sometimes I find myself getting lost thinking my cursor is in my Bible when It's not, etcetera.

Indeed ... In L9, the panels and toolbar had a darker border line which seems to be missing in L10. This lack does make it quite a bit harder to recognize different panels and can more easily cause such "troubles" as you describe.

I pray, this point ("bug") in the UI design will be adjusted soon in an update.

Robert M. Warren

Hi Gerald:

I sympathize. I'm a couple of decades behind you, but with significant vision impairments. I'm afraid we're stuck with inexplicable User Interface fads for the duration. I'm not sure who the target audience for all this silliness is, but it doesn't include you and me. Logos is among the least offensive programs in that respect than many others I deal with, so I'm thankful for that.

Gerald P. Swetsky

Well, it's been over a week now and nothing from Logos regarding this problem. Apparently we are a distinct minority.

Gerry

DMB

Well, it's been over a week now and nothing from Logos regarding this problem.

Gerry, I wouldn't read too much into 'a whole week' ... they've been trying to respond to various problems ... product sales, a few bugs, etc

But I think your point is good ... I doubt you're in the minority. But it's unlikely to be fixed. They're very much into pretty displays, and try to 'grey' anything that can be grey'd. Hide anything that can be hidden. They like 'Easter eggs' as a UI principle. Ironically, their primary market, if surveys are to be believed, is an older 'greying' customer base.

And at least on my M1 Mac, the 'mouse' doesn't line up with their scroll bars quite right. So, it goes with the cutesy.

Gerald P. Swetsky

I hate to appear impatient, but here's what I'm dealing with. I never had this problem with Logos before 10 was released.
Hmmmm, when I post my screen shot here it doesn't seem to be a problem. However on my computer, the gray areas aren't there!!

MJ. Smith

it's been over a week now and nothing from Logos regarding this problem

Don't forget that these are peer-to-peer forums although after a new release we can count on significant FL participation. But if the same problem is reported on several threads, they don't always respond in every thread. And they will respond to crashes and incorrect results before they get to the cosmetic/usability/accessibility issues. I am a bit younger than you and my preference for contrast and lines is similar to yours. But we need to be patient for the noise to die down so our voices may be heard.

Jack Caviness

I am confused. Although I am older than Gerald, I dee very clear definition between adjacent panels/windows on both my main display and the seconsey one. It this a difference between Windows and the Mac OS? Apple displays and others?

Wolfgang Schneider

I am confused. Although I am older than Gerald, I dee very clear definition between adjacent panels/windows on both my main display and the seconsey one. It this a difference between Windows and the Mac OS? Apple displays and others?

Jack,
I would not call the areas in red from above screenshot as "clear definition between adjacent panels ... especially when compared to how this was designed in L9 (panel had a clear border, etc.)

Perhaps this is different from how it displays on your displays?

Sam Shelton

I do not know if there is a difference due to a variation between Windows or Mac OS. Perhaps it is just a misunderstanding of the problem. The gray color that separates the windows in the layout may be the same in both L9 and L10, but there is a distinct difference because L9 used a darker borderline between windows that made them easier to differentiate. This difference does not appear to have anything to do with monitor settings. Is there a way to toggle on this borderline?I

Sam Shelton

Wolfgang Schneider

... The gray color that separates the windows in the layout may be the same in both L9 and L10, but there is a distinct difference because L9 used a darker borderline between windows that made them easier to differentiate. This difference does not appear to have anything to do with monitor settings. Is there a way to toggle on this borderline?

This is exactly what some of us have been talking about ... unfortunately I do not have L9 on my PC anymore so I could not provide screenshot of the notable and distinct difference. For some reaason, in the email notification of your post, a screenshot was included which now seems to be missing here in the actual forum post ...

As far as I know, there is no possibility for users to toggle borderlines off or on...