We're retiring some lesser-used mobile apps
Over the last few weeks, we've been retiring some of our lesser-used mobile apps to concentrate our resources on our Bible Study apps. This means they are no longer available in app stores, and won't receive updates in the future.
The apps that have (or will be) retired are:
- Bible Screen (iOS, Android, Roku, Kindle Fire, Windows App)
- Greek and Hebrew Flashcards (iOS, Android, Kindle Fire)
- Curriculum (iOS, Android)
If you have already downloaded and installed these apps, you may be able to continue to use them for a little while, but they will eventually stop working.
We know that some of our users appreciated these apps, so we're sorry for the disappointment. Sometimes we can achieve more by doing less, and that's the conclusion we came to here.
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
Greek and Hebrew Flashcards (iOS, Android, Kindle Fire)
This one has been treated like a red-headed step-child for a long time anyway [:(]
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Developed by interns for a summer project as I remember it was always a step-child and it could be argued it was not well used because of neglect.
Jack Caviness said:Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:Greek and Hebrew Flashcards (iOS, Android, Kindle Fire)
This one has been treated like a red-headed step-child for a long time anyway
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While I am sorry for those who are loosing a valuable tool, I am glad to see Faithlife's recent efforts to focus on their core business model. Bible Screen is the only one of these that I used personally, and it was neat, but not essential.
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Jack Caviness said:Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
Greek and Hebrew Flashcards (iOS, Android, Kindle Fire)
This one has been treated like a red-headed step-child for a long time anyway
I'm disappointed to see this one go as it was an amazing learning tool.
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I agree. I found the flashcard app to be very helpful. Sad to see it go.
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I agree. I found the flashcard app to be very helpful. Sad to see it go.
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Bruce Dunning said:Jack Caviness said:Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
Greek and Hebrew Flashcards (iOS, Android, Kindle Fire)
This one has been treated like a red-headed step-child for a long time anyway
I'm disappointed to see this one go as it was an amazing learning tool.
Vote for Replace flashcard app with interface to Anki | Faithlife
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Add me to the flashcard users. The ability to find a wordlist in the public user documents then sync that to the flashcard app was super. Had Greek 1 last year. taking Greek 2 at the moment. and will need one Hebrew class before I graduate.
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MJ. Smith said:Bruce Dunning said:Jack Caviness said:Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
Greek and Hebrew Flashcards (iOS, Android, Kindle Fire)
This one has been treated like a red-headed step-child for a long time anyway
I'm disappointed to see this one go as it was an amazing learning tool.
Vote for Replace flashcard app with interface to Anki | Faithlife
Morgan has posted a method for doing this with the existing Logos.
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/213855.aspx
I have a feeling that since Faithlife is trying to cut back on extraneous development efforts to focus on core stuff, this is one feature request they will never find the time to implement. So people should be prepared to make do with what's there already.
Sadly, MJ, I see you peppering the forums with tons of feature requests that you're highlighting for people to vote for, and there are going to be a lot of disappointed people. FL just does not have the people power to implement a fraction of those.
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Rosie Perera said:
I have a feeling that since Faithlife is trying to cut back on extraneous development efforts to focus on core stuff, this is one feature request they will never find the time to implement.
I agree. But I wonder why? It's true, I'm 'over the hill'. Original languages was (shhh ... over 50 years ago for me). They don't do flash cards anymore? Or the Logos app was orphaned? I'm not arguing for it ... just don't know current learning. I know Japanese, I do flashcards (kanji) ... I'd 'die' an unfortunate death elsewise.
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Rosie Perera said:
Sadly, MJ, I see you peppering the forums with tons of feature requests that you're highlighting for people to vote for, and there are going to be a lot of disappointed people. FL just does not have the people power to implement a fraction of those.
It is not coincidental that the series coincides with Mark Barnes taping/conversations with users on how they use Logos. Of course, not everything proposed will or should be implemented. The goal is to see which topics people care enough about to actually vote on - in some cases none, in others more than 10. The other goal is to get users to actually think about the tools they are using. If Logos does not keep it tool base up to modern expectations, Logos will become a has been.
Rosie Perera said:since Faithlife is trying to cut back on extraneous development efforts to focus on core stuff, this is one feature request they will never find the time to implement.
I would hope they are smart enough to recognize that at times basic functions such as vocabulary decks are best handled by an interface where that interface is a small project leveraging already present export capabilities. Beyond that, I'm not sure how they will prioritize their work - they appear to have a heavy load of code cleanup and consolidation of "duplicate" code and standardization to lower maintenance costs. Then they have a number of "old tools" which need to be brought up to modern standards ... they still have restrictions that were necessary to run on home computers two decades ago. Besides that, there are a number of useful but incomplete data projects. All that to be balanced with the addition of new features to support a broader base of biblical criticism method.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Done! Been switching to Ginoskos for my phone and that Zacharias suite for my ipad. I'll have to look into Anki.MJ. Smith said:Bruce Dunning said:Jack Caviness said:Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:Greek and Hebrew Flashcards (iOS, Android, Kindle Fire)
This one has been treated like a red-headed step-child for a long time anyway
I'm disappointed to see this one go as it was an amazing learning tool.
Vote for Replace flashcard app with interface to Anki | Faithlife
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Is there any way the Flash card app could just continue unsupported? I mean it's a pretty simple interface right? Why not just let it do it's thing? Not a programmer... so I'm sure it's way more complicated than that.
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Ryan said:
Is there any way the Flash card app could just continue unsupported?
That's pretty much what they are doing. If you have it, it will work until it become incompatible with the operating system. But I suspect no app stores will carry unsupported apps.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
I suspect no app stores will carry unsupported apps.
<If> the user has already "purchased" the app, the iOS app often keeps it as being availble to download to compatible devices. It would not be in the app store for new users to aquire.
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I’ve been looking for that Greek flash card app for a few weeks. Aim currently working on the Gk 101 course where it is referenced. I wond where it was. Any way to get a grandfathered copy. It seems a bad idea to get rid of it considering the fact this course is still available. logos , please help.
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I recently purchased an android phone and the flashcard app is not available in the Play Store. I'm not sure about an Iphone.
I do have an old Kindle Fire I purchased in 2015 and an old phone that has the flashcard loaded and they both still work.
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There's a real need for a flashcard app that's professionally developed and maintained. FaithLife would provide a valuable service for their user community if they were to build and maintain. Perhaps it wouldn't be economically sustainable as a stand-alone app, but I would find it a very attractive feature if it were integrated into the main Logos/Verbum program. (Much more so than some of the other bells and whistles that have been built into the last couple of versions.)
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EastTN said:
There's a real need for a flashcard app that's professionally developed and maintained.... (Much more so than some of the other bells and whistles that have been built into the last couple of versions.)
Indeed. I've suggested in the past that since Anki is open source, it might be worth considering there.
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Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Ryan said:
Is there any way the Flash card app could just continue unsupported? I mean it's a pretty simple interface right? Why not just let it do it's thing? Not a programmer... so I'm sure it's way more complicated than that.
Actually, that's the way it always worked - and basically it worked well enough to not need any support or updates I know of. However, the point of the app was that it interfaced with Logos and synchronized user's word lists, so Faithlife needed to maintain a server that supports this. This sync of new Word Lists has stopped (for some time now). So prior users can still run Flashcards on their old Word Lists, but can't sync new ones. Thus for new users it wouldn't work since even if they got the program running, it wouldn't see any Word Lists (there's no import, it relied completely on the sync).
Have joy in the Lord!
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The Biblescreen app will shortly stop working, as will the Biblescreen broadcast at Faithlife TV. You can now watch the stream on YouTube: https://youtu.be/2Kgj_DukJu8
Proclaim Digital Signage is unaffected by this change, so verse art will continue to be available for Proclaim users.
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
The Biblescreen app will shortly stop working, as will the Biblescreen broadcast at Faithlife TV. You can now watch the stream on YouTube: https://youtu.be/2Kgj_DukJu8
Proclaim Digital Signage is unaffected by this change, so verse art will continue to be available for Proclaim users.
This is very sad. I hope you continue to keep trivia up. Your YouTube is ok but it isn't constant and you have to remember where you left off so you don't keep repeating.
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
The apps that have (or will be) retired are:
- Bible Screen (iOS, Android, Roku, Kindle Fire, Windows App)
- Greek and Hebrew Flashcards (iOS, Android, Kindle Fire)
- Curriculum (iOS, Android)
I assume also the Faithlife mobile apps (ios/Android):
https://faithlife.com/transition-faq
Or this thread is just lesser-used apps.
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Mark - Is this site being retired? https://faithlife.com/
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JT (alabama24) said:
Mark - Is this site being retired? https://faithlife.com/
We’re sunsetting some lesser-used parts of faithlife.com but we don’t have any immediate plans to retire the whole site.
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The Faithlife mobile apps are due to be retired at the end of June so they’re not part of this round of retirements.
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
The Biblescreen app will shortly stop working, as will the Biblescreen broadcast at Faithlife TV. You can now watch the stream on YouTube: https://youtu.be/2Kgj_DukJu8
Proclaim Digital Signage is unaffected by this change, so verse art will continue to be available for Proclaim users.
i noticed Bible trivia was gone today on FLTV. Will that get uploaded to YouTube? When?
Thanks
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MJ. Smith said:Vote for Replace flashcard app with interface to Anki | Faithlife
I voted - Good suggestion!
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
The Biblescreen app will shortly stop working, as will the Biblescreen broadcast at Faithlife TV. You can now watch the stream on YouTube: https://youtu.be/2Kgj_DukJu8
Proclaim Digital Signage is unaffected by this change, so verse art will continue to be available for Proclaim users.
Good Morning Mark
I noticed Bible trivia was gone on FLTV. Will that get uploaded to YouTube? If so, When?
Thanks
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Maaaaaan, I could really use that flashcard app right now… as I'm in my church office at 1am in my 4th week of Hebrew
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Try this app:Tony Walker said:Maaaaaan, I could really use that flashcard app right now… as I'm in my church office at 1am in my 4th week of Hebrew
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ankimobile-flashcards/id373493387
the desktop and web version are free:
apps.ankiweb.net
Download a shared deck and you are back in the game.
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Anki is a great program for flashcards. Used it for years now. I recommend it. Logos can't be everything to everybody... if it did Logos would eventually have to hire thousands just to keep up with all the updating and such. If they did that, what do you think they would have to charge us for the Logos software??? Think about it.
Anki is free, works great and really doesn't take up all that must resources.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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I am a big fan of Anki. Why reinvent the wheel?
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