Another day, another stupid question

I'm looking at the Bible Sense Lexicon, to wit:

It simply makes sense to me that I should be able to click or double-click or right-click or shut-one-eye-and-cross-my-fingers-click and have Logos search for that particular sense. Am I missing something, or do I have to type it into the search box?

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Christian Alexander

I am thinking you have to do it manually. I am not sure though. The Bible Sense Lexicon is a different style of lexicon organized around the sense.

Graham Criddle

Am I missing something

There is a search button in the pane on the left

Note that the generated search searches for both the specified sense and all its subordinates.

If you want to just search for the specific sense you need to add in an equals sign after the :

In this case, this would result in sense:="to follow (behavior)"

Daniel Wurzberg

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1247616#Comment_1247616

In other words...it should be clickable [;)]

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1247634#Comment_1247634

In other words...it should be clickable

Clicking is used for navigation within the sense diagram; clicking in the relationships section changes the focus and expands groups.

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1247634#Comment_1247634

In other words...it should be clickable

Yes, because right now it is not user-friendly. Since left-clicking is used for navigation, it would make sense for right-clicking to bring up one or more search options.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248270#Comment_1248270

On the left hand side right click does bring up the context menu with searches

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248273#Comment_1248273

On the left hand side right click does bring up the context menu with searches

So then right clicking on the right hand side should do likewise.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248296#Comment_1248296

So then right clicking on the right hand side should do likewise.

Doesn't matter to me ... I just don't want people to wait for their preferred method thinking they can't do something that is available by another method.

Gregory Lawhorn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248301#Comment_1248301

I can indeed search with the button on the left, but it can only search for what it already recognizes as my target word/phrase.

It should be possible to right-click a word and perform a search on a visible word/phrase without typing anything in.

Fortunately, I can select text displayed on the right, copy it, and paste it in for a new search. But here's another UI disconnect: the only way to get to the search bar is to click on it; there doesn't appear to be a keyboard shortcut (TAB would seem to be the obvious choice).

Keyboard Maestro to the rescue again!

Andrew Batishko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248326#Comment_1248326

he only way to get to the search bar is to click on it; there doesn't appear to be a keyboard shortcut (TAB would seem to be the obvious choice).

The help file lists this in the Keyboard Shortcuts section as "Go to reference box of current resource/guide". That said, I can certainly see how it would not be clear that this is a "reference box" in this case, since you might not realize that you are entering a reference in that box (specifically a sense reference), and this is not a resource or guide. I'll make a request for a better description here.

Use Ctrl+G on Windows and Cmd+G on Mac.

SineNomine

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248301#Comment_1248301

So then right clicking on the right hand side should do likewise.

Doesn't matter to me ... I just don't want people to wait for their preferred method thinking they can't do something that is available by another method.

Personally, I couldn't figure out how to use whatever the method is that works when I looked at it, so I gave up.

Gregory Lawhorn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248362#Comment_1248362

he only way to get to the search bar is to click on it; there doesn't appear to be a keyboard shortcut (TAB would seem to be the obvious choice).

The help file lists this in the Keyboard Shortcuts section as "Go to reference box of current resource/guide". That said, I can certainly see how it would not be clear that this is a "reference box" in this case, since you might not realize that you are entering a reference in that box (specifically a sense reference), and this is not a resource or guide. I'll make a request for a better description here.

Use Ctrl+G on Windows and Cmd+G on Mac.

I finally had a chance to test this shortcut; it doesn't work. Here's what I'm doing:

1) As I sit in the Bible Sense Lexicon window, I select an entry.

2) I copy the entry.

3) I press Command-G to move the focus to the search box.

4) Nothing happens; the focus does not move.

The text is certainly copied; I can click in the box and then paste from the clipboard. But Command-G does not work.

Andrew Batishko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248632#Comment_1248632

I guess I'm confused about what you are actually trying to do... Perhaps you can clarify for me.

2) I copy the entry.

You copy what from where? What do you have selected?

3) I press Command-G to move the focus to the search box.

Just to be clear. What you are calling the search box is the box at the top of the Bible Sense Lexicon panel just to the left of the "Actual Size" button? Or are you referring to something else? If something else, a screenshot may help clarify.

Gregory Lawhorn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248922#Comment_1248922

Here's a screenshot to illustrate.

I have order (society) brought up in the Bible Sense Lexicon.

What I want to do is search the tagged biblical text for obedience (state), labeled #1 in the screenshot.

There is no way to do this in a straightforward way. In my view, Logos should make it possible to right-click obedience (state) and then search for it, just as the #3 option in the screenshot provides for the active sense.

But Logos doesn't provide that kind of functionality.

So, my only option is to select and copy obedience (state) and paste it into the search box (#2), press Enter, and then click on #3 when it changes to Search for sense obedience (state).

I'm calling #2 a search box because I can type in text and perform a search of the Bible Sense Lexicon.

Again, the most straightforward way of performing the search would be a right-click that performs a "search for sense" operation. That not being available, there should be a way of getting the cursor into the search box in the window without having to click.

Does that clarify what I'm trying to achieve?

Andrew Batishko

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248935#Comment_1248935

Thanks. I had no difficulty on Windows with using Ctrl+G to get to the navigation box in order to paste the copied text. Cmd+G is supposed to do the same on Mac. I'll have our QA team test this and create a case to fix the problem if it's not working.

Matt Mattox

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1248935#Comment_1248935

Hi Gregory,

I was able to replicate this behavior on mac. I'll get a case written up for our team to investigate.

Gregory Lawhorn

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1249052#Comment_1249052

That sounds great, gentlemen - thank you!