Faithlife, please don’t sell books like this. The author is a practicing witch, the book is abouthow to practice witchcraft, and the “moon books” imprint webpage says its books are about “paganism and shamanism.”
https://www.logos.com/product/260343/pagan-portals-rounding-the-wheel-of-the-year-celebrating-the-seasons-in-ritual-magic-folklore-and-nature
Yeah, that's one I'm not likely to buy. I believe there's a need for Christians to understand modern paganism, but this isn't the kind of book I'm personally looking for FaithLife to provide.
It’s there, if you need it buy it, if not, then don’t buy it. It’s a business and unless you believe in witchcraft and that it actually works, then worry about it, but if you don’t believe then there’s nothing to worry about 😂
DAL
Ps. It should comfort you to know it’s white magic 🪄, the good kind, not the dark kind 🧙
It's very likely this was unintentional. In case you're unfamiliar with the paradigm: resources in ebook format are fed into an automated process for formatting and publishing. (My understanding is that it's a lot like sausage.) The trade-off for the low price (with low margins for Logos) is that it might not justify much editorial oversight and fastidious formatting. I appreciate your post and they'll probably pull this, but don't be surprised if you get a tongue-cluck or two from other users.
... and unless you believe in witchcraft and that it actually works, then worry about it, but if you don’t believe then there’s nothing to worry about
You sound hauntingly like a writer in the NT. Let me see, who could it be? Oh gee .. Paul!
I guess better buy it, before FL gets spooked! Oops, a prepub. Spook time. Actually, here in New-Age-Land, it's good to understand the thinking, before discussing Jesus. Most Christians haven't a clue. Once, in Bible class, a visitor asked about channeling Jesus. Reaction: frowns.
EDIT: Actually, Jeremiah made a similar argument as Paul. Paul's was a little more sophisticated.
I have a bit more trust in Christians' ability to choose their books wisely. I find it insulting that others think I'm so ignorant and weak that they need to protect me -- or that pagan or shaman are more dangerous than heretics.
I find it insulting that others think I'm so ignorant and weak that they need to protect me -- or that pagan or shaman are more dangerous than heretics.
Arguing that a particular book isn't a good choice for an digital Christian bookstore is not the same thing as saying that anyone is "so ignorant and weak" that they need to be protected. I also don't think anyone is arguing "that pagan or shaman are more dangerous than heretics."
Ultimately, FaithLife has to decide on the business strategy that they believe best fits with their mission and target customer base. I suspect I'm looking for a more curated set of offerings than you are. That doesn't mean you're wrong. But there's also nothing wrong with my expressing my own preferences as a customer.
But there's also nothing wrong with my expressing my own preferences as a customer.
Expressing to remove a title that another Logos user might need? Or simply liking/not. I think you're the latter. The OP is the former.
No, I don't think those things you assume I'm thinking.
... and unless you believe in witchcraft and that it actually works, then worry about it, but if you don’t believe then there’s nothing to worry about You sound hauntingly like a writer in the NT. Let me see, who could it be? Oh gee .. Paul! I guess better buy it, before FL gets spooked! Oops, a prepub. Spook time. Actually, here in New-Age-Land, it's good to understand the thinking, before discussing Jesus. Most Christians haven't a clue. Once, in Bible class, a visitor asked about channeling Jesus. Reaction: frowns. EDIT: Actually, Jeremiah made a similar argument as Paul. Paul's was a little more sophisticated.
Well, you see, people like us reason through things and make arguments because we are mature and want to understand to have actual answers when others who are willing to learn ask questions. But some people they just whine about it without really understanding things and just claiming something is wrong with zero arguments to back it up.
Coming from a family who had some practice magic I can tell you about the real books that you should read to learn something but can assure you that you don’t really want to read those books and learn what’s in them. But this book is harmless and gives you some insight into different perspectives people have about “witchcraft.”
Anyway, hopefully this cute book will make its way back some day 😂😂😂
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There are many books in Logos that address Paganism, Wicca, and ritual magic. I would prefer that people could use their own discernment about such a book instead of just taking it out because someone doesn't like it. One might think Logos is exclusively Christian, but in practice, the site sells more than just Christian literature. Either take away many more questionable books, or let anyone buy what interests them. Otherwise, it's selective censorship.
Well said! 👍
Otherwise, it's selective censorship.
And to add insult to injury, usually done without actually reading the book.
Otherwise, it's selective censorship. And to add insult to injury, usually done without actually reading the book.
I think we should stop and consider the arguments for a spell.
https://www.logos.com/distribution-philosophy
If Faithlife had made its “distribution philosophy” webpage easier to find, I would have read it earlier and wouldn’t have posted objections to a book Faithlife is selling. There’s not much in their “distribution philosophy” that would prevent Faithlife from selling most of the inventory of any random occult bookstore, Muslim bookstore, Hindu bookstore, cult bookstore, etc, as well as the book in question. Since Faithlife calls itself a Christian bookstore, I do ask that they consider more carefully what it means to honor God, and so made a distinction between 1) academic and historical books on witchcraft, paganism, amulets, other religions, and 2) contemporary “how to” books that glorify other religions and the occult and encourage the reader to follow them. (I was objecting to books in the 2nd category). But it’s their company, so I will not post any objections anymore. But I have to say, I’ve read a lot by the author in question, and tons of other stuff on the occult and other religions written by those who practice them, so many of the comments about me in this thread are untrue.
I agree. If this is a Christian bookstore, then it is understood to explicitly promote Jesus. Where that line is for the purpose of supporting anti Christian, pagan authors, agendas and teachings is a bit cloudy. But it's a fair expectation the OP is making inquiry into.
Either take away many more questionable books, or let anyone buy what interests them. Otherwise, it's selective censorship.
FL has definitely demonstrated selective censorship before. Reminds me of this thread: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/209579.aspx
That book got pulled so fast I didn't get a chance to buy it first. We were given no explanation as to why they decided to pull it.
Faithlife, please don’t sell books like this. The author is a practicing witch, the book is abouthow to practice witchcraft, and the “moon books” imprint webpage says its books are about “paganism and shamanism.” https://www.logos.com/product/260343/pagan-portals-rounding-the-wheel-of-the-year-celebrating-the-seasons-in-ritual-magic-folklore-and-nature
Its valuable to have primary source books from any false religion and cult. Thanks for making me aware. I pre-ordered it.
https://www.logos.com/distribution-philosophy If Faithlife had made its “distribution philosophy” webpage easier to find, I would have read it earlier and wouldn’t have posted objections to a book Faithlife is selling. There’s not much in their “distribution philosophy” that would prevent Faithlife from selling most of the inventory of any random occult bookstore, Muslim bookstore, Hindu bookstore, cult bookstore, etc, as well as the book in question. Since Faithlife calls itself a Christian bookstore, I do ask that they consider more carefully what it means to honor God, and so made a distinction between 1) academic and historical books on witchcraft, paganism, amulets, other religions, and 2) contemporary “how to” books that glorify other religions and the occult and encourage the reader to follow them. (I was objecting to books in the 2nd category). But it’s their company, so I will not post any objections anymore. But I have to say, I’ve read a lot by the author in question, and tons of other stuff on the occult and other religions written by those who practice them, so many of the comments about me in this thread are untrue.
I wish I hadn’t written the last sentence in my earlier post since it distracts from what I trying to say about honoring God, but I can’t edit it. So I thought I’d clarify that I didn’t buy the author’s stuff, I just found a few ways to read some of what she’s written because I had been mad that Logos/Faithlife was selling the book in question and I wasn’t sure if I wanted to start this thread or not.In my earlier years I read a lot on the occult and other religions by those who practice them, and know more about different types of witchcraft and rituals than anyone should know. But as I was reading through her stuff on multiple subjects, I just became more angry that a “Christian bookstore” would sell a “how to” book on paganism by a practicing witch, regardless of whether some people on this forum consider her magic to be “white” rather than “black/dark” (By the way, many witches don’t like the terms “black/dark” and “white” magic, but I’m not going to get into how different witches define themselves). After reading Logos’ “distribution philosophy” a few more times, I realize I might have been wrong to say in my post that “Faithlife calls itself a Christian bookstore,” because I'm not sure from that webpage if they actually do. But they do say that “Logos is a member of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association through our ownership of Lexham Press, and we subscribe to the Statement of Faith of the Association.” So I repeat what I said in the rest of my post.
