BUG- Dictionary of the New Testament Use of the Old Testament not tagged properly

John Fidel
John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,458
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Just purchased the above resource and to test the tagging put it at the top of my prioritization. It fails to locate known headwords and as such is not included in the Topic Guide or the Power Lookup. If it does find a headword it is wrong such as Sin goes to Sinai. There is an article on Sin. With this not populating it diminishes the value significantly.

Please advise or I will simply return the resources.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,878

    Yes, the resource is "messed up" as there are two headwords assigned to the actual headword "sin"

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    Thanks for the report. There appear to be many related problems throughout this resource. I've passed this along to our content team.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the report. There appear to be many related problems throughout this resource. I've passed this along to our content team.

    Thank you Andrew,

    As an owner of this resource, I have looked with concern over this report. Kindly consider marking this thread for an update once all issues with this resource have been addressed.

    Your acknowledgement of this request would be appreciated.

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  • Andrew Batishko
    Andrew Batishko Member, Community Manager, Logos Employee Posts: 5,487

    I made a note on the case to request that a update be posted when this is resolved, but I can't guarantee (and wouldn't necessarily expect) any follow through on that. The content team doesn't usually post updates like that.

    Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    I made a note on the case to request that a update be posted when this is resolved, but I can't guarantee (and wouldn't necessarily expect) any follow through on that. The content team doesn't usually post updates like that.

    Once again thank you Andrew,

    I acknowledge your intervention and frankness. I encourage all interested parties to keep this thread in periodic discussion until all issues have been resolved.

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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,458

    I am bumping this since Logos is selling this resource on sale and it is featured in this month's MP webcast. The usefulness of a dictionary is to be able to get to the headings and populate heading searches.

    Please try and get this resource fixed.

    Thanks

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    The usefulness of a dictionary is to be able to get to the headings and populate heading searches.

    John,

    Thank you for keeping the deficiencies of this resource before the team at Logos. Am I right in thinking that these bugs won't interfere with results you obtain when used as part of a collection in a custom guide as demonstrated in the MPSeminar webinar on this topic?

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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,458

    Hi Beloved,

    I don't think so since that is a search on a bible reference (milestone) and not a headword search that all dictionaries should allow. While that suggestion for use of the resources is a good one, it is not the only way I would expect this or any dictionary to provide results. It for example will not properly populate in Factbook or Topic Guide. The dictionary has an entry (headword) for marriage. If you go to marriage in the topic guide there will not be an entry under the dictionaries section for this dictionary because the headword tagging is not correct.

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    I don't think so since that is a search on a bible reference (milestone) and not a headword search that all dictionaries should allow.

    Yes John, you get no argument from me. This resource should function as you point out and Logos should prioritize its attention to correcting the tagging in this dictionary even as they encourage us to purchase a work in progress.

    However, as you readily admit this resource will function as intended with its partner resources when used for the purpose of engaging with the NTUOT and even the OTUOT alongside our choice of Bible.

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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,458

    I did test the collection included in a guide as outlined by MP seminars and it works, but sometimes the heading in the dictionary is ambiguous or just off by one heading. So, a fix to the resource will help using it in a collection as well.

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    a fix to the resource will help using it in a collection as well.

    I defer to your expertise and agree to an expeditious fix.

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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  • John Fidel
    John Fidel MVP Posts: 3,458

    I am bumping this again since the issues with this resource are still a problem. Please resolve the matter.

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    I've passed this along to our content team

    Who speaks for the content team; as this should be a priority?

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  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,238

    Content team has a fix in place that is ready to be pushed out on Tuesday.

    We're also expecting the resource to have Factbook support two weeks later (July 16).

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    Content team has a fix in place that is ready to be pushed out on Tuesday.

    We're also expecting the resource to have Factbook support two weeks later (July 16).

    It appears that the problem with headwords and Power Lookup has been addressed. However, Factbook support and Topic Guide issues remain. Please verify.

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,238

    We missed the cut-off for getting Factbook support out by a day. Right now it's looking like it will go out with the next batch of resource updates on July 30.

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

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  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭

    We missed the cut-off for getting Factbook support out by a day. Right now it's looking like it will go out with the next batch of resource updates on July 30.

    Thank you for addressing the issues with this resource responsibly [Y]

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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