New feature: Sermon Assistant

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  • David Spencer
    David Spencer Member Posts: 3

    Here is another shot of my screen on PC and Mac:

  • Brian Ortmann
    Brian Ortmann Member Posts: 1

    I love the sermon assistant !! It really helps me think outside of the box and it expands my view even wider and deeper of the passage I am studying!! thank you for adding this and changing to a subscription setup. I am able to expand my use of logos, and I am learning new ways to expand my use of logos and the AI has helped with all of this!! 

  • Christie Smit
    Christie Smit Member Posts: 29 ✭✭

    I downloaded the New Era Logos yesterday, and my Sermon Builder hasn't the AI Sermon Assistant. How can I get it please

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,456

    I downloaded the New Era Logos yesterday, and my Sermon Builder hasn't the AI Sermon Assistant. How can I get it please

    I think you have to subscribe to Logos Pro for that to become part of your system Christie.

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  • Christie Smit
    Christie Smit Member Posts: 29 ✭✭

    Thank you Mike. You are right, I have Logos Premium without Sermon Assistant 🥹

  • Dwight Wood
    Dwight Wood Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    I agree.  I was hoping I might find the same options in Notes.  Then I could copy/paste what I wanted into my sermon.

  • John A. Murphy, Jr.
    John A. Murphy, Jr. Member Posts: 50 ✭✭

    I like the Sermon Assistant and I admit I like some of the questions generated better than the ones I find for the small group studies. I'd like to be able to generate a sheet of those questions WITHOUT having to include questions in my sermon. For instance, this week I'm preaching on God's response to Job in chapters 38-41. Obviously I can't cover all 4 chapters in my sermon, but would like to give my congregation questions to consider while at home.

    Do I need to copy those questions from the sermon to a "Bible Study" page, or can I create a separate sheet that would accompany the sermon?

  • Anstey Jeremiah
    Anstey Jeremiah Member Posts: 12 ✭✭

    What about using the questions handout in the sermon builder

  • Matt Dyer
    Matt Dyer Member Posts: 1

    The personal AI generated illustrations rubs me the wrong way. I know they're AI generated and the disclaimer is given to verify them. They're not genuine or personal and it's between the preacher and the Lord should one use one of the illustrations to lie to the congregation. If possible, I think greater consideration should at least be given to the phrasing of the disclaimer, possibly even the POV from which they're written/generated. I think I'll stick with the hypothetical or historical illustrations for now. 

  • Levi Stuckey
    Levi Stuckey Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    Super helpful feature! Thanks for the roll out.

    By way of improvement. I find, putting sermon series outlines together to be some of the most time consuming work in my responsiblities. It would be asweome to have a feature to put a 4 week series together on a topic and/or a book series together to exegecitcally preach through a book of the bible.

    I've used Chat GPT to help with some of this. Recently I used it as a very starting place to build a 12 week series on the life of Paul, but again, GPT is trained on the logos library. AI will never take the place of study, prayer or Biblical education, but if I'm doing that stuff already it can help speed up a few of the processes. Thanks for the tools you're building to help us more efficiently and effectively preach the word. May God water it and produce fruit through it!

  • hamish greenway
    hamish greenway Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    hi there,

    so far the AI functions are good, not epic yet but good. I don't personally want it to take over my studying and reliance on the Sprit so that's a good thing I suppose. would be amazing t get it to summarize bible story's as reference material. For instance summarizing the pass-over story (ie. Exodus 1-12).

    Nice.

    go well

  • Chris Flanagan
    Chris Flanagan Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Are there any plans to implement things like "improve," "shorten," "convert to bullet points," or things along the lines of what PulpitAI does? I know there are other external AI tools for this, but having them self-contained within Logos would be nice. Chris

  • RfrmdGuy
    RfrmdGuy Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Is there any thought to the future versions taking into account the "tradition" of the account to shape the illustrations more along the lines we would create for ourselves? I am not using the tool for sermons as much as building notes for a class over selected text and have enjoyed the idea of it, but thus far the AI generated illustrations are super short and slanted a bit away from my preferred reformed tradition. I think a local LLM approach that truly was limited to the books in our collection option might be wonderful in addition to the existing larger often times from the store references I am getting.

  • Willi
    Willi Member Posts: 2 ✭✭

    I think this tool got quite some potential, but it is really lacking more comprehensive configuration. Like providing information that shall be considered: Context of church, culture information, focus on exegetical accuracy and hermeneuticts, thematic focus and so on.

    Would be great to textually add extra context to requests.

  • Columbcille Dougherty
    Columbcille Dougherty Member Posts: 40 ✭✭

    I am exploring this feature and see great potential for it! I am currently using the prompt, "What does Ignatius of Antioch say is required for the church to exist?" I love the results. However, it would be great if they also included a way to read some of the points of the results in the texts from which they are being pulled.

  • Michael Mura
    Michael Mura Member Posts: 5 ✭✭

    Question on the future development of AI tools in Logos with respect to the sermon editor. I have seen some other tools on the internet that will create an AI chatbot based on your specific sermon. You can ask it questions to help refine your sermon. For example, you can use prompts like: "Does this sermon effectively point people to Jesus and their need for Him to be their Savior?" or "Give me advice for better transitions between my main points."

    I think there is a TON of potential here. You could have a small library of categorized prompts to help preachers refine their sermons. You could even have different prompts based on material from great preaching books like "Christ-Centered Preaching" by Bryan Chapell.

    One other AI tool I've seen is the ability to generate a complete small-group study guide based on a particular sermon. Again, you could have different prompts available based on the type of study you prefer (OIA, etc.). Many services will also generate a five-day devotional based on the content of your sermon.

    I put in a LOT of work each week preparing sermons. Tools like these would greatly help my congregation interact with and apply the Sunday sermon throughout the rest of the week.

    Have there been any discussions about incorporating tools like these directly into Logos?

  • Mark Barnes (Logos)
    Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,991

    Yes, we have considered tools like that (and even prototyped some internally). In my own sermon prep, I sometimes use ChatGPT in similar ways to the ones you describe, so if this feature existed, there'd be at least two of us using it! That said, we're not actively working on a feature like this right now — but if it's something that more people want and would find beneficial, that could certainly change. You might consider making the suggestion here, where other users can support it by voting on it.

    Sermon Assistant can already generate questions from a completed sermon, so that might be something you can use to help complete your small group study.

  • Michael Mura
    Michael Mura Member Posts: 5 ✭✭

    Thanks for your response, Mark. I will definitely share my suggestion at the link you provided to see if we we can get it to gain some support. I'm glad to hear that it is at least on the "radar," even if in a small capacity.

    I'm aware of the Sermon Assistant feature that generates questions from my sermon. That's helpful, but it's really just a list of questions that I would have to copy/paste into another document and format. What would be more helpful is if it generated an entire document with a complete small group guide or 5-day devotional that I can go back and make changes to as needed.

  • Simon
    Simon Member Posts: 113 ✭✭
    edited March 5

    How do I get rid of the annoying Sermon Assistant tab. To me it seems more like a "solution" looking for a problem; unwanted clutter.