General satisfaction on tablets question

Hi all

What is your general satisfaction level with the mobile app? I have a surface pro 7+ win 11 and it is kludgy and slow (I7 16gb ram, 256 gb SSD 30% full). THe pen is not really supported fully in Logos based on my practical experience.

I am considering an iPad or the Samsung Tab.

I realize this is an opinion question but feedback is welcome.

Ipad Pro/cons/pen usages

Samsung Tab same questions

Thanks!

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PEW

sup dave,

I use a 5-6 year old Ipad pro. Works great with pen. Make sure you do get the latest features of Logos 10 though. It gives you more tools that works with your pen.

I can do most of my sermon/bible study work on it. I wish Logos included the counselling tool though. I also use the ipad to preach a few times, I am still trying to get to use to the mobile app but overall, it works great for me. There are many customization for preaching. Very practical.

I do recommend it. It does some time to get used to it overall. Especially if you are used to using the desktop app.

Dave Gifford

Thanks, i do keep logos 10 uptodate for sure. 1 vote for iPad!

GregW

I use a 9th-generation iPad, and it works extremely well. I use it for reading, preaching and some note-taking.

You do need to be aware that you don't get the full desktop experience on the mobile versions of the software, though, including the iPad Pro. On a Surface Pro you're running the full desktop version, but on an IPad, iPad Pro, or Android tablet it is a cut-down version. I haven't been able to disconnect from the desktop version, as the iPad doesn't have (for example):

Library tagging
Collections
Resource prioritization
Personal Books (not a feature I really use)
and a number of other guides, features and resources.

There is a thread somewhere on here that sets out more fully what is unavailable on the mobile versions.

Dave Gifford

thanks

Graham Criddle

There is a thread somewhere on here that sets out more fully what is unavailable on the mobile versions.

The article at https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/9785956686349-Logos-10-Platform-Comparison is designed to address this.

(There are a few inaccuracies that I believe are being addressed)

David Thomas

I have a surface pro 7+ win 11 and it is kludgy and slow

1. I concur that Microsoft Pen interaction has been neglected for over 10 years by Logos developers. I guess the Microsoft Pen is not as "cool" as the Apple Pencil.

2. My interaction with the APP is less favorable than my interaction with the Desktop PROGRAM.

my SP9 is connected to an external monitor at both my church office and my home office so I have way more screen real estate when doing sermon prep. I feel like I can interact with SEVERAL resources in my Desktop layout, while the APP is usually only 1 or two resources and switching between tabs is more difficult than just looking in another panel.

neither an iPad or Samsung, but my Kindle Fire (supposedly the same as the Android app) is EXTREMELY (almost unusable) Klunky when trying to apply highlights or clip a passage.

I also like having the RI ribbon open which shows several words in relationship, rather than doing a single word lookup in the App.

I like having the APP on my tablet that I can read (and sometimes highlight/clip) commentaries when away from the study as a supplement, but my focused sermon prep (including visuals preparation in Proclaim) requires the full DESKTOP.

A Adams

I switched to iPad a few years ago, and have been very pleased overall. If the Surface is your only device, be aware that an iPad by itself will not be a one-to-one replacement. The iOS app is not able to do certain things that the desktop version does. I do most of my reading and study on my iPad, and I love the overall performance compared to the Android tablets I used to use. It's also lightning-fast. And the Apple pencil works great.

If you can purchase a new device, I would recommend getting an iPad and keeping the Surface. That way, if there are features you can't live without on the PC version, you can open the Surface for those tasks. But you may find that it's rarely necessary or worth it. However, if you dump the Surface and don't have another PC or laptop, you might miss it.

xnman

I've thought about an Ipad, surface pro, etc.... but sometime back I bought a lenovo laptop with fold over monitor.. which I find is a little bit bigger than the tablets... but I have all of the desk top privileges with me all the time. I use it for classes, preaching and teaching, taking notes, etc. To me, it's the best of both worlds.

Rusty Lovett

Any drawbacks or cons? I'm assuming it's one of the lenovo yoga laptops that I am currently looking into. I myself am trying to be more efficient with study on logos while still being able to take notes and write on a device. for personal study I use the Supernote as a digital notebook with my Bible. I use logos for the building sermons or teaching resources, but would like to be able to have one device that I could study using logos, while still being able to notetake digitally. have a device like a tablet for reading is a plus.

Glen Warren

I am looking at getting a Lenovo yoga laptop as well with the hopes the pen mode works well in Logos. Especially in using Canvas.

Have you tried that on yours?

Thanks.

Glen Warren

I am looking at getting a Lenovo yoga laptop as well with the hopes the pen mode works well in Logos. Especially in using Canvas.

Have you tried that on yours?

Thanks.

Bill Anderson

I am looking at getting a Lenovo yoga laptop as well with the hopes the pen mode works well in Logos. Especially in using Canvas.

Have you tried that on yours?

Thanks.

If you are using the Lenovo laptop with the Logos desktop app, the pen won't be of much use, if any, to you. The Logos desktop app was designed to be used with a mouse, not a pen.

David Palmer

I use the M1 iPad air and Logos works great, but as Greg noted, there are a handful of missing features. I can effectively prepare a sermon from beginning to end on my iPad, and have done so many times. Having said that, Logos is the only thing keeping me from completely ditching my laptop in favor of my iPad. The main reason is the lack of ability to use tabs in my layouts. The tabs make my workflow much smoother as I swith between different modules. If this were ever rectified, my laptop would be a thing of the past.

KevinV

I use a 9th generation iPad and find Logos quite functional on it. It's not as feature rich as on my laptop, but still quite robust and very portable. I find the ability to take my entire library with me and having all the features it offers is well worth it. I have an off-brand stylus pen that I've used with the 'Draw on Screen' function, but nothing beyond that. I tried using it to take notes, but couldn't get it work; however, that may be user error. I just take notes in the separate 'Notes' app.

Timothy Shrimpton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1298359#Comment_1298359

Hey, I know this an older post, but trying to find Logos users who use a Supernote. Have you tried to sideload the Logos Android app onto the Supernote? Any thoughts on it?

I currently have a Boox eink tablet which I really like, but thinking about something a bit more streamlined.

Rusty Lovett

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1354308#Comment_1354308

I have the Boox Note Air 3C and so far it is a good portable device for study, but it does lack in speed and use compared to an IPad. I like the view of the E-ink for reading books, but some of the tools can be clunky. I am reading a book right now on it and like the ability to highlight with the pen and handwriting the notes that convert to text as I write. I have not taken the time to fully implement it into my workflow though or figure out how to use it well.

I bought Supernote a few years ago when it was more like the Remarkable. Simple. Also, before I found logos. I kept it in hand with my study and basically bought it to have a digital notebook to replace all of my many legal pads and notebooks. I have not tried to sideload it yet and didn't know it was possible until you mentioned it now, but will try and see if that will work on mine and let you know. I will say that the Note Air 3C has color where my Supernote does not. I will keep you posted.

What I would like is something that I could make full use of a pen like the Note Air 3c, full functionality like a laptop, but portable and as fast as an IPad. I guess the closest thing to that is the Surface, but my last experience with a Surface (the early years of it) was that it did not have processing power and was usually very slow. But that was some years ago. Logos specifically, I want a device to dedicate wholly to it like the one I described. I'm not sure if the HP 2 in 1's or other brands accomplish this or not.

Frank Sauer

Just a note to the discussion - Android Tablets will run the Android Logos App, iPads will run the Logos iOS App and the 2 in 1 PC devices like the Surface Pro, Lenovo Yoga and HP comparable will run the full Desktop application. So there is a difference in desired use.

Jonathan Bradley

I really like the mobile app for iPad OS. I've used the android app a litte, a few years ago, and from that, I can only assume I would like that as well. However, when it comes to some functionality on the iPad app, I do NOT use it for taking notes. If I am using my iPad, I use the app.logos.com web app to take notes, because it allows for greater formatting and the web app won't mess up the formatting of notes made in the desktop app. The iPad app has messed up the formatting in notes made in the desktop, then edited in the iPad app, and then opened back up on the desktop. It was quite frustrating.

David Thomas

Frank Sauer said:

Just a note to the discussion - Android Tablets will run the Android Logos App, iPads will run the Logos iOS App and the 2 in 1 PC devices like the Surface Pro, Lenovo Yoga and HP comparable will run the full Desktop application. So there is a difference in desired use.

THIS!! I have been less than impressed trying to run the "full Desktop application" in Windows Tablet mode. Love having my whole library when I have a keyboard and portable mouse, but touch control not so much.

Bohuslav Wojnar

I use desktop win version of Logos on my Dell XPS 13 laptop for all my study and sermon preparation. I use Samsung tablet (Galaxy Tab S6 Lite with S-pen) for Bible and book reading and highlighting. Occasionally I do some study on the tablet but having been used to the desktop version for years, nothing mobile can satisfy me for real work. Just reading, and that is great. Logos Mobile is IMHO by far the best book reading app existing on the market.

RyanB

I use Logos on my iPad extensively. While I recognize the limitations of an iPad app vs the desktop application, all things considered I'm pleased with it. The Apple pencil makes highlighting a breeze for me. The only complaint I have is to please, please, please bring back the reader progress bar that was taken away. (Not sure of it's actual name, but the little bar that showed you how far along in the book you were.)