General satisfaction on tablets question

Dave Gifford
Dave Gifford Member Posts: 105 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Hi all

What is your general satisfaction level with the mobile app?  I have a surface pro 7+ win 11 and it is kludgy and slow (I7  16gb ram, 256 gb SSD 30% full). THe pen is not really supported fully in Logos based on my practical experience. 

I am considering an iPad or the Samsung Tab.  

I realize this is an opinion question but feedback is welcome.

Ipad Pro/cons/pen usages

Samsung Tab same questions

Thanks! 

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  • PEW
    PEW Member Posts: 56 ✭✭

    sup dave,

    I use a 5-6 year old Ipad pro. Works great with pen. Make sure you do get the latest features of Logos 10 though. It gives you more tools that works with your pen.

    I can do most of my sermon/bible study work on it. I wish Logos included the counselling tool though. I also use the ipad to preach a few times, I am still trying to get to use to the mobile app but overall, it works great for me. There are many customization for preaching. Very practical.

    I do recommend it. It does some time to get used to it overall. Especially if you are used to using the desktop app.

  • Dave Gifford
    Dave Gifford Member Posts: 105 ✭✭

    Thanks, i do keep logos 10 uptodate for sure. 1 vote for iPad!

  • GregW
    GregW Member Posts: 277 ✭✭

    I use a 9th-generation iPad, and it works extremely well. I use it for reading, preaching and some note-taking.

    You do need to be aware that you don't get the full desktop experience on the mobile versions of the software, though, including the iPad Pro. On a Surface Pro you're running the full desktop version, but on an IPad, iPad Pro, or Android tablet it is a cut-down version. I haven't been able to disconnect from the desktop version, as the iPad doesn't have (for example):

    • Library tagging
    • Collections
    • Resource prioritization
    • Personal Books (not a feature I really use)
    • and a number of other guides, features and resources.

    There is a thread somewhere on here that sets out more fully what is unavailable on the mobile versions.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,630

    GregW said:

    There is a thread somewhere on here that sets out more fully what is unavailable on the mobile versions.

    The article at https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/9785956686349-Logos-10-Platform-Comparison is designed to address this.

    (There are a few inaccuracies that I believe are being addressed)

  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭

      I have a surface pro 7+ win 11 and it is kludgy and slow

    1. I concur that Microsoft Pen interaction has been neglected for over 10 years by Logos developers. I guess the Microsoft Pen is not as "cool" as the Apple Pencil.

    2. My interaction with the APP is less favorable than my interaction with the Desktop PROGRAM.

    my SP9 is connected to an external monitor at both my church office and my home office so I have way more screen real estate when doing sermon prep. I feel like I can interact with SEVERAL resources in my Desktop layout, while the APP is usually only 1 or two resources and switching between tabs is more difficult than just looking in another panel.

    neither an iPad or Samsung, but my Kindle Fire (supposedly the same as the Android app) is EXTREMELY (almost unusable) Klunky when trying to apply highlights or clip a passage.

    I also like having the RI ribbon open which shows several words in relationship, rather than doing a single word lookup in the App.

    I like having the APP on my tablet that I can read (and sometimes highlight/clip) commentaries when away from the study as a supplement, but my focused sermon prep (including visuals preparation in Proclaim) requires the full DESKTOP.

    Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).

  • A Adams
    A Adams Member Posts: 14

    I switched to iPad a few years ago, and have been very pleased overall. If the Surface is your only device, be aware that an iPad by itself will not be a one-to-one replacement. The iOS app is not able to do certain things that the desktop version does. I do most of my reading and study on my iPad, and I love the overall performance compared to the Android tablets I used to use. It's also lightning-fast. And the Apple pencil works great. 

    If you can purchase a new device, I would recommend getting an iPad and keeping the Surface. That way, if there are features you can't live without on the PC version, you can open the Surface for those tasks. But you may find that it's rarely necessary or worth it. However, if you dump the Surface and don't have another PC or laptop, you might miss it.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭

    I've thought about an Ipad, surface pro, etc....  but sometime back I bought a lenovo laptop with fold over monitor.. which I find is a little bit bigger than the tablets... but I have all of the desk top privileges with me all the time. I use it for classes, preaching and teaching, taking notes, etc. To me, it's the best of both worlds. 

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  • Rusty Lovett
    Rusty Lovett Member Posts: 1

    Any drawbacks or cons? I'm assuming it's one of the lenovo yoga laptops that I am currently looking into. I myself am trying to be more efficient with study on logos while still being able to take notes and write on a device. for personal study I use the Supernote as a digital notebook with my Bible. I use logos for the building sermons or teaching resources, but would like to be able to have one device that I could study using logos, while still being able to notetake digitally. have a device like a tablet for reading is a plus. 

  • Glen Warren
    Glen Warren Member Posts: 12

    I am looking at getting a Lenovo yoga laptop as well with the hopes the pen mode works well in Logos.  Especially in using Canvas.

    Have you tried that on yours?

    Thanks.

  • Glen Warren
    Glen Warren Member Posts: 12

    I am looking at getting a Lenovo yoga laptop as well with the hopes the pen mode works well in Logos.  Especially in using Canvas.

    Have you tried that on yours?

    Thanks.

  • Bill Anderson
    Bill Anderson Member Posts: 504 ✭✭

    I am looking at getting a Lenovo yoga laptop as well with the hopes the pen mode works well in Logos.  Especially in using Canvas.

    Have you tried that on yours?

    Thanks.

    If you are using the Lenovo laptop with the Logos desktop app, the pen won't be of much use, if any, to you. The Logos desktop app was designed to be used with a mouse, not a pen.

  • David Palmer
    David Palmer Member Posts: 54 ✭✭

    I use the M1 iPad air and Logos works great, but as Greg noted, there are a handful of missing features. I can effectively prepare a sermon from beginning to end on my iPad, and have done so many times. Having said that, Logos is the only thing keeping me from completely ditching my laptop in favor of my iPad. The main reason is the lack of ability to use tabs in my layouts. The tabs make my workflow much smoother as I swith between different modules. If this were ever rectified, my laptop would be a thing of the past.

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  • KevinV
    KevinV Member Posts: 46 ✭✭

    I use a 9th generation iPad and find Logos quite functional on it. It's not as feature rich as on my laptop, but still quite robust and very portable. I find the ability to take my entire library with me and having all the features it offers is well worth it. I have an off-brand stylus pen that I've used with the 'Draw on Screen' function, but nothing beyond that. I tried using it to take notes, but couldn't get it work; however, that may be user error. I just take notes in the separate 'Notes' app.