Logos 10 Last Chance Sale
As you probably know, the next version of Logos will launch this fall as a subscription.
We’ve kicked off the Logos 10 Last Chance sale. We’re really excited because it gives you the best discounting we’ve ever offered on feature sets and packages. It also provides owners of Logos 10 a substantial discount on the next version of Logos when it comes out this fall.
Since it’s hard to communicate everything about the sale in our emails and website, I’m sharing more details here to make sure we’re being as clear as possible about what it means and why we think it's an extra special event.
- Largest discounts ever: The Logos 10 Last Chance sale includes the largest discounts we’ve ever offered on our latest and most powerful feature sets and base packages. Make sure you’re signed in to see your custom discount.
- Last opportunity to buy perpetual ownership of feature sets at such a strong discount: Once we launch the next version of Logos this fall, you’ll no longer be able to buy perpetual feature sets. This sale is your last chance to purchase at the best prices we’ve ever offered.
- Significant savings on the next version of Logos for Logos 10 owners: If you own Logos 10, you’ll receive a long-lasting and substantial discount on our new subscriptions launching this fall. Those without L10 will pay at least 30% more than L10 owners depending on subscription tier (e.g., Logos Premium, Logos Pro and Logos Max). Discounts on each subscription tier require ownership of specific feature sets.
- Logos 10 Bronze Feature Set owners will be eligible for a discount on Premium.
- Logos 10 Silver Feature Set owners will be eligible for a discount on Premium and Pro.
- Logos 10 Full Feature Set owners will be eligible for a discount on Premium, Pro, and Max.
We know it’s always a big decision to purchase the latest feature sets and/or libraries, so please let us know any questions and we’ll do our best to help.
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Taylor Blomquist
Senior Manager, Product Marketing
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Taylor Blomquist said:
As you probably know, the next version of Logos will launch this fall as a subscription.
For anyone proposing to have a heart attack, the referenced page above clarifies the 'next version':
"No, you won’t be forced to subscribe to Logos.
Unlike most software companies, we make our latest software available to everyone. Even if the last feature set you bought was Logos 4 in 2009 (or even version 1 in 1992!), you’ll continue to receive free app updates, ensuring you can keep using Logos anytime you change computers or upgrade your operating system. You’ll continue to receive bug fixes for free, too. What you won’t get is access to the powerful new and improved features that will be offered in the subscription version of Logos."
And, yes, the discounts are significant ... old Logos is back ... for a month.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Still on the fence about subscribing. But it would help if you said what you meant by "Premium, Pro, and Max" and "substantial discount."
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Hi David,David Wanat said:Still on the fence about subscribing. But it would help if you said what you meant by "Premium, Pro, and Max" and "substantial discount."
Thanks for reaching out, we're still finalizing launch plans, but non-L10 owners will pay at least 30% more by tier. As reference, here is L10 owner pricing as part of Early Access:- Logos Premium ($6.99/mo)
- Logos Pro ($9.99/mo)
- Logos Max ($12.99/mo).
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Taylor Blomquist said:
Hi David,David Wanat said:Still on the fence about subscribing. But it would help if you said what you meant by "Premium, Pro, and Max" and "substantial discount."
Thanks for reaching out, we're still finalizing launch plans, but non-L10 owners will pay at least 30% more by tier. As reference, here is L10 owner pricing as part of Early Access:- Logos Premium ($6.99/mo)
- Logos Pro ($9.99/mo)
- Logos Max ($12.99/mo).
Will eligible FL Connect subscribers still get the discount? From other posts, my understanding is that they will. But people will see this and begin asking anyway, so I figured I'd be first. [;)]
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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How long will these early access prices last? If I sign up for max with L10, will my monthly payment remain $12.99 for the whole time I am subscribed?Taylor Blomquist said:
Hi David,David Wanat said:Still on the fence about subscribing. But it would help if you said what you meant by "Premium, Pro, and Max" and "substantial discount."
Thanks for reaching out, we're still finalizing launch plans, but non-L10 owners will pay at least 30% more by tier. As reference, here is L10 owner pricing as part of Early Access:- Logos Premium ($6.99/mo)
- Logos Pro ($9.99/mo)
- Logos Max ($12.99/mo).
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Taylor Blomquist said:
Hi David,
Thanks for reaching out, we're still finalizing launch plans, but non-L10 owners will pay at least 30% more by tier. As reference, here is L10 owner pricing as part of Early Access:- Logos Premium ($6.99/mo)
- Logos Pro ($9.99/mo)
- Logos Max ($12.99/mo).
Thank you. I'll have to crunch some numbers and see if I can squeeze in another subscription.
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For some reason my post duplicated. Sorry about thatTaylor Blomquist said:
Hi David,David Wanat said:Still on the fence about subscribing. But it would help if you said what you meant by "Premium, Pro, and Max" and "substantial discount."
Thanks for reaching out, we're still finalizing launch plans, but non-L10 owners will pay at least 30% more by tier. As reference, here is L10 owner pricing as part of Early Access:- Logos Premium ($6.99/mo)
- Logos Pro ($9.99/mo)
- Logos Max ($12.99/mo).
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Jonathan Bradley said:
Will eligible FL Connect subscribers still get the discount? From other posts, my understanding is that they will. But people will see this and begin asking anyway, so I figured I'd be first.
Hi Jonathan,
Yes, eligible Faithlife Connect Subscribers will still get the discount on Logos subscriptions.
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Sarel Slabbert said:
I have Logos 10 Full Feature set, if I subscribe to Max, how long will I pay $12.99? Will the price be $12.99 for as long as I subscribe, or will the price increase at some stage?
Hi Sarel,
Our intent is to give users who own the majority of our features a long-lasting and compelling price for our subscriptions. Prices are subject to change, but we do not have plans to increase prices for Logos 10 owners.
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Will there be an annual payment discount?
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Juan Palm said:
Will there be an annual payment discount?
There is an annual payment discount. Pro is $99.99 and Max $129.99, I believe, for those who have the full feature set discount. I'm not sure of the Premium level annual cost off the top of my head.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Juan Palm said:
Will there be an annual payment discount?
For Logos 10 FFS owners:
- Premium is $6.99 monthly and $69.99 annually
- Pro is $9.99 monthly and $99.99 annually
- Max is $12.99 monthly and $129.99 annually
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Don't forget about the Legacy Fallback License...2 consecutive years of subscription gets you ownership of the respective level of non-AI powered features in the subscription.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Taylor Blomquist said:
Thanks for reaching out, we're still finalizing launch plans, but non-L10 owners will pay at least 30% more by tier. As reference, here is L10 owner pricing as part of Early Access:
- Logos Premium ($6.99/mo)
- Logos Pro ($9.99/mo)
- Logos Max ($12.99/mo).
Taylor, can you clarify the 30% more number for me? Currently based on reports from user who have subscribed from early access, the Pro / Max subscription for non L10 owners are $250/$350 per year. Is this true? (Because $250 is significantly more than a 30% jump compare to $100)
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Hi Taylor,
I'm confused... please help:
- I am a FL Connect No Library (formerly Logos Now) subscriber.
- When I went to the Last Chance Sale page, for L10 Full Feature Upgrade, it is showing "Owned" and not showing a price.
- When I click on the L10 Full Feature Upgrade, it is showing a dynamic price of $173. Why?
- Do I own the L10 FFS or do I not?
- Should I take advantage of this Last Chance sale and purchase the FFS (or Silver FS) now? Is there any benefit for me to do that, if I already qualify for the Logos Pro discounted price as a FLCNL subscriber?
Please advise. Thanks.
PL
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Hi Taylor,
I also discover that even for L10 Silver and Gold libraries, the advertised dynamic prices shown on this page https://www.logos.com/feature-upgrades are not the same (drastically lower) than the actual prices when I click to the product pages.
Is there a bug somewhere?
PL
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PL said:
Hi Taylor,
I'm confused... please help:
- I am a FL Connect No Library (formerly Logos Now) subscriber.
- When I went to the Last Chance Sale page, for L10 Full Feature Upgrade, it is showing "Owned" and not showing a price.
- When I click on the L10 Full Feature Upgrade, it is showing a dynamic price of $173. Why?
- Do I own the L10 FFS or do I not?
- Should I take advantage of this Last Chance sale and purchase the FFS (or Silver FS) now? Is there any benefit for me to do that, if I already qualify for the Logos Pro discounted price as a FLCNL subscriber?
Please advise. Thanks.
PL
You’ll want to check out the thread that Mark Barnes posted a short while ago: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/224288.aspx
He specifically discusses the migration from Connect to the new subscription, including those with the Connect Essentials (No Library) going to Pro at the discounted price, with Max being an option as well, at the discounted price.
Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC
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Farid Widjaya said:
Taylor, can you clarify the 30% more number for me? Currently based on reports from user who have subscribed from early access, the Pro / Max subscription for non L10 owners are $250/$350 per year. Is this true? (Because $250 is significantly more than a 30% jump compare to $100)
I wish they would not do that sort of comparison because the basis is not fully qualified. From your perspective figure out what you have to pay to earn the discount e.g. For Logos Pro: L10 Silver $250 (say) + $100 = $350 first year, $450 after 2 years, $550 after 3 years. So you will be ahead after 2 years ($500 for non-L10 owners) and remain ahead thereafter.
Just use your actual price for Silver.
Dave
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Will we be able to continue using our L10 features after the new model releases if we don’t subscribe?
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I can confirm that I've had exactly the same issue. Was just about to email my (very good) Logos salesperson to query this. If I do get an answer I'll post it here
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Tyler Lamb said:
Will we be able to continue using our L10 features after the new model releases if we don’t subscribe?
Yes, you will. They are your property "forever".
Have joy in the Lord!
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I own Logos 10 Academic Standard - does that correlate to any of the three tiers of subscription discounts you are talking about? Or will I find that I have no ongoing discount under the new arrangements?
If there is no discount on my current package that would seem to be a reason to use the current sale to buy the Logos 10 Full Feature upgrade.
On the other hand, if we're talking about something like a 30% discount on a $10/month subscription, it would take over four years to break even on the initial feature purchase. Can you also tell us whether the final subscription costs will be published before the end of the current Farewell Tour sale? Without that it's hard to make an informed decision.
Thanks for your help
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Tyler Lamb said:
Will we be able to continue using our L10 features after the new model releases if we don’t subscribe?
If you've already bought features, they're yours to continue using.
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Jonathan Bradley said:
Don't forget about the Legacy Fallback License...2 consecutive years of subscription gets you ownership of the respective level of non-AI powered features in the subscription.
Excluding or including books?
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Jan Krohn said:
Excluding or including books?
Features only. Books are unaffected by the fallback license and will go away along with the subscription unless they have been purchased.
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Still waiting for Taylor / Logos to respond to my two postings above (reports of discrepancies on feature set ownership and pricing on two different webpages):
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/224275/1307505.aspx#1307505
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I bought the full-feature upgrade on May 1st for $411. I wish they would give me credit for the difference, but they won't.
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Hi Farid,Farid Widjaya said:Taylor, can you clarify the 30% more number for me? Currently based on reports from user who have subscribed from early access, the Pro / Max subscription for non L10 owners are $250/$350 per year. Is this true? (Because $250 is significantly more than a 30% jump compare to $100)
Unfortunately, we aren't able to share the final new customer prices at this time. The non-l10 customer prices for early access are subject to change when we officially launch in the fall. As you've pointed out, they are significantly more than a 30% increase. Given the available information you could surmise a range of potential non-l10 pricing scenarios. We know that this isn't ideal for you to make a buying decision now, and we are working diligently to finalize our pricing. It is our hope is that we will be able to share this information before the sale ends.0 -
Jerry Bush said:
I bought the full-feature upgrade on May 1st for $411. I wish they would give me credit for the difference, but they won't.
I think this is a case where they should credit you .. all that confusion for 6 mo should be layed at their feet. Unnecessary, and I'm guessing, shifting sands, inside FL
Me, I refused to buy what I have no need for (I don't plan much future Logosian investment). But then, a large percent off my desired package, which included full-feature. So, I guess, the ending was good.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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I was just toying around with upgrade pricing packages.
While I was signed out so that the 50% off price was in effect, Logos 10 collector's edition was $5400 and the Logos 10 ultimate was $11,740.
When I was signed in with the 30% off price, Logos 10 Collector was $5,478 and $12,148
I guess as price goes up the reduction in % price eventually crosses over the dynamic pricing discount
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PL said:
Hi Taylor,
I'm confused... please help:
- I am a FL Connect No Library (formerly Logos Now) subscriber.
- When I went to the Last Chance Sale page, for L10 Full Feature Upgrade, it is showing "Owned" and not showing a price.
- When I click on the L10 Full Feature Upgrade, it is showing a dynamic price of $173. Why?
- Do I own the L10 FFS or do I not?
- Should I take advantage of this Last Chance sale and purchase the FFS (or Silver FS) now? Is there any benefit for me to do that, if I already qualify for the Logos Pro discounted price as a FLCNL subscriber?
Please advise. Thanks.
PL
Hi PL,
It's showing owned because you have access to it through your subscription. This is a bug, and I've reported it to the team. I've reviewed your account and you do not own the Logos 10 Full Feature Upgrade, which is why it's showing you a dynamic sale price.
As far as whether you should take advantage of the sale or not, you'll have to be the judge. The benefit to you is that if you purchase the L10FF, and are a subscriber, but you do not subscribe long enough to be granted the Legacy Fallback License (LFL), you would fallback to L10FFU as opposed to your last permanently owned bp. However, if you plan to subscribe for two years, you'd get the LFL.
We are not ready to share final launch price. The prices you've called out are early access prices, and are subject to change. Given the available information you could surmise a range of non-l10 customer prices.PL said:
Taylor, can you clarify the 30% more number for me? Currently based on reports from user who have subscribed from early access, the Pro / Max subscription for non L10 owners are $250/$350 per year. Is this true? (Because $250 is significantly more than a 30% jump compare to $100)0 -
Hi again,PL said:Hi Taylor,
I also discover that even for L10 Silver and Gold libraries, the advertised dynamic prices shown on this page https://www.logos.com/feature-upgrades are not the same (drastically lower) than the actual prices when I click to the product pages.
Is there a bug somewhere?
PL
I can see how it's confusing. On https://www.logos.com/feature-upgrades the page assumes that you'd be interesting in the library, but not the features set since you are currently subscribing to it, whereas the product page is showing you the full price (library + Feature Set). I've submitted this to the team as well.0 -
Are you saying... Please forgive me if I get I t wrong... You probably get people like me a lot.
But if I subscribe... Even for a month. I will get to keep the books in the subscription when I don't continue it for next month?
Again please forgive me for my ignorance but it isn't for the want of looking... I spent so much time trying to figure it out and what is and isn't included
Get the L10 now or just be a basic sub...
Anyway thanks for the advice
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Sorry what is 10FFU and LFL?
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As a Logos 10 Full Feature Upgrade owner, with zero interest in A.I. features and zero interest in books included in a subscription, if Faithlife cannot provide all information upfront regarding all of the features that can be kept after subscribing for 2 years, then for me, any consideration of subscribing is non-existent. I will not risk buyer's regret and pay upfront for what I don't know I'm getting that I can keep after subscribing for 2 years. That's what was nice about the Logos software upgrades every 2 years. You knew upfront everything you were paying for and keeping.
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Berechiah said:
Are you saying... Please forgive me if I get I t wrong... You probably get people like me a lot.
But if I subscribe... Even for a month. I will get to keep the books in the subscription when I don't continue it for next month?
Again please forgive me for my ignorance but it isn't for the want of looking... I spent so much time trying to figure it out and what is and isn't included
Get the L10 now or just be a basic sub...
No, you will not get to keep the books when your subscription is over. If you own Logos 10 and subscribe for two years, you will get the legacy fallback license, which gives you ongoing access to all new offline features and all features from Logos 10. You will lose new online features and books from the subscription when you stop paying. If you don't own Logos 10 (or have one of the old Faithlife Connect subscriptions), you might not get a fallback license; I don't think it has been fully determined.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Taylor Blomquist said:
As far as whether you should take advantage of the sale or not, you'll have to be the judge. The benefit to you is that if you purchase the L10FF, and are a subscriber, but you do not subscribe long enough to be granted the Legacy Fallback License (LFL), you would fallback to L10FFU as opposed to your last permanently owned bp. However, if you plan to subscribe for two years, you'd get the LFL.
Thanks for your reply Taylor. I'll need some time to digest and understand this.
I just want to say (please don't take this as a dig): do you really expect a regular user to understand all this? While Logos is reworking your sales model and pricing model, can you guys please add some sense of simplicity and straight-forwardness for us regular humans?
Many companies do subscriptions. I've never seen one that makes it so complicated...
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PL said:
I just want to say (please don't take this as a dig): do you really expect a regular user to understand all this?
You think Logos subscription plans are not understandable (I assume you are ignoring all the forum users' obfuscations and fears)? Try reading the Bible ... it certainly presents you with some conundrums. [:#] I have felt like saying this for so long but not had someone provide the right context who I would also trust to recognize my sense of humor. Reading the forums on the topic has surely confused many people ... to the point that I refuse to answer questions about it as I am not sure I have not mixed user imagination with Logos position.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Hi Gordon,Gordon Walker said:I own Logos 10 Academic Standard - does that correlate to any of the three tiers of subscription discounts you are talking about? Or will I find that I have no ongoing discount under the new arrangements?
You will be eligible for the Logos 10 owner's discount. However, we haven't determined which tier the academic feature set will make you eligible for. Upgrading to the Logos 10 Full Feature upgrade will give you the greatest flexibility in choosing a subscription that meets your needs when we launch them.
That's fair, we are working diligently to answer the pricing question, but we can't commit to sharing before the end of the sale (though I hope to).Gordon Walker said:Without that it's hard to make an informed decision.
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Hi Gordon,Gordon Walker said:I own Logos 10 Academic Standard - does that correlate to any of the three tiers of subscription discounts you are talking about? Or will I find that I have no ongoing discount under the new arrangements?
You will be eligible for the Logos 10 owner's discount. However, we haven't determined which tier the academic feature set will make you eligible for. Upgrading to the Logos 10 Full Feature upgrade will give you the greatest flexibility in choosing a subscription that meets your needs when we launch them.
That's fair, we are working diligently to answer the pricing question, but we can't commit to sharing before the end of the sale (though I hope to).Gordon Walker said:Without that it's hard to make an informed decision.
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No, you only get access the books in your subscription while you are subscribed.Berechiah said:But if I subscribe... Even for a month. I will get to keep the books in the subscription when I don't continue it for next month?
If you'd like to permanently own all Logos 10 features then you should pick up the Logos 10 Full Feature set during the sale. I recommend giving our sales team a call if you have questions.Berechiah said:Get the L10
Logos 10 Full Feature Upgrade (L10FFU) and Legacy Fallback License (LFL read more about that here).Berechiah said:Sorry what is 10FFU and LFL
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Taylor Blomquist said:
Unfortunately, we aren't able to share the final new customer prices at this time. The non-l10 customer prices for early access are subject to change when we officially launch in the fall. As you've pointed out, they are significantly more than a 30% increase. Given the available information you could surmise a range of potential non-l10 pricing scenarios. We know that this isn't ideal for you to make a buying decision now, and we are working diligently to finalize our pricing. It is our hope is that we will be able to share this information before the sale ends.
THANK YOU for this clarification. This is what i was worried about. Others have said just to take that $350/$250 figures mentioned in the early access program, and I had my doubt that those are the final pricing. I hope you will share the info before the end of the sale so we can make the best decision.
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Taylor Blomquist said:
... but we can't commit to sharing before the end of the sale (though I hope to).
Lordy.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Taylor Blomquist said:
You will be eligible for the Logos 10 owner's discount. However, we haven't determined which tier the academic feature set will make you eligible for.
Thanks for the response, the logical thing seems to be to wait to the last days of the sale and see what information is available then.
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Taylor Blomquist said:
You will be eligible for the Logos 10 owner's discount. However, we haven't determined which tier the academic feature set will make you eligible for.
Thanks for the response, the logical thing seems to be to wait to the last days of the sale and see what information is available then.
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Taylor Blomquist said:
Hi David,David Wanat said:Still on the fence about subscribing. But it would help if you said what you meant by "Premium, Pro, and Max" and "substantial discount."
Thanks for reaching out, we're still finalizing launch plans, but non-L10 owners will pay at least 30% more by tier. As reference, here is L10 owner pricing as part of Early Access:- Logos Premium ($6.99/mo)
- Logos Pro ($9.99/mo)
- Logos Max ($12.99/mo).
Hi Taylor
My current price for Logos Premium is $14.99/mo.
I've never taken the time to understand why I might need feature sets and instead have invested all my money into books within Logos. (I'm sure that's shocking to those who use Logos to its full potential.)
If I were to upgrade during the current Logos 10 sale to Bronze feature set level would I qualify for Logos Premium at the early access price of $6.99/mo?
If so, my interest has been raised by a YouTube review of Logos Premium that said there would be an extra free book of the month and a 5% discount on ongoing purchases? I haven't seen that elsewhere, but I confess that could be because my interest to date has always been buying resources that I want and not in buying feature sets, whose benefit I've never truly understood, so I haven't followed the subscription posts with much interest. At $6.99/mo I might be interest in the additional benefits more than I might in the features themselves.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
So, to summarize what we're saying.
- You won’t lose your existing feature sets when we move to subscription. (That wasn't stated explicitly in the video, but we've been very clear about it in several places, especially here.)
- Every subscriber will receive the following perks:
- A 5% storewide discount <edit>on as many books as we can</edit>
- An additional free book of the month (of similar quality to the existing FBOTM).
- Pro and Max subscribers will also receive:
- A 5% annual rewards coupon (so, e.g., for every $100 you spend, you'll receive $5 credit at the end of the year).
- Logos 10 owners who subscribe for 24 months will also receive:
- A Legacy Fallback License which you qualify for after 24 months. This will allow you to keep non-AI/Cloud features even if you subsequently cancel your subscription.
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/223567/1302587.aspx#1302587
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Paul Caneparo said:
If I were to upgrade during the current Logos 10 sale to Bronze feature set level would I qualify for Logos Premium at the early access price of $6.99/mo?
Hi Paul, that's correct since you own the bronze feature set you would qualify for the Logos 10 owner's discount on Logos Premium. You could subscribe monthly or yearly ($69.99/year). You may also be interested to know that there will also be an additional 5% back in a annual reward coupon. However, that perk is only available in Pro & Max. (Which would require a L10 Silver or Full feature set respectively to be able to get the L10 owner's discount).
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Jeff Rodrigues said:
As a Logos 10 Full Feature Upgrade owner, with zero interest in A.I. features and zero interest in books included in a subscription, if Faithlife cannot provide all information upfront regarding all of the features that can be kept after subscribing for 2 years, then for me, any consideration of subscribing is non-existent. I will not risk buyer's regret and pay upfront for what I don't know I'm getting that I can keep after subscribing for 2 years. That's what was nice about the Logos software upgrades every 2 years. You knew upfront everything you were paying for and keeping.
Agree totally. I'm still not convinced it will be worth it for me to pay for a subscription.
The latest beta shows work on "help center" and factbook. I find it difficult to believe that a new and improved help feature is going to be unavailable to anyone not paying for a subscription. Seems like that should have been new and improved, and continually updated constantly for the last 20+ years.
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