Specialized Preposition Search

Paul Day

I am currently engaged in an intensive study in my Greek New Testament involving identify all prepositional phrases that are then immediately followed by a noun in a genitive case.

Can someone please recommend an appropriate search formula for this project?

I am hoping to better understand how the New Testament writers employed either subjective genitives or objective genitives imm following a prepositional phrase.

Thanks in advance!

MJ. Smith

Welcome to the forums. Do you mean you're looking for prepositions that take a noun in the genitive OR do you mean you are looking for preposition phrases that occur immediately before a genitive noun?  In a Bible search use prepositionalPhrase:objectCase:Genitive . I got the pattern for the search by using the Context Menu on a preposition in my primary Bible.

Note I tried prepositionalPhrase:* BEFORE 1 WORDS morph.g:NG for the second option but did not verify the results. I don't know enough Greek to really understand

Paul Day said:

subjective genitives or objective genitives im

Paul Day

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1308648#Comment_1308648

Thank you for your reply!

I’m actually trying to find every prepositional phrase that takes an object of any case that is then immediately followed by a genitive noun.

I’m trying to gauge the frequency for how the authors use either the subjective or objective genitive in combination with a preceding prepositional phrase.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1308649#Comment_1308649

I think prepositionalPhrase:* BEFORE 1 WORDS morph.g:NG  is what you want. The last term translates as morphology-Logos Greek-noun-genitive

Rick Brannan

This is best done either with a syntax search or searching using the grammatical construction label features ordered around prepositions. 

Syntax search is probably the best option, though.

I've created a syntax search that uses the Cascadia form of the SBLGNT, you should be able to access it here: https://flshare.net/g52zb9 

[Edit: I misread the original request; the below finds a prepositional phrase with a genitive object; I'll follow up this post soon with a separate search to accomplish what you're looking for, I think.]

Here's the search:

Here are some results:

Rick Brannan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1311203#Comment_1311203

Rick Brannan said:

[Edit: I misread the original request; the below finds a prepositional phrase with a genitive object; I'll follow up this post soon with a separate search to accomplish what you're looking for, I think.]

After re-reading the request, MJ's approach has merit and it is probably the most simple approach.

The only issue I can see with it is that it locates both instances where the following genitive directly modifies the prepositional phrase as well as instances where a genitive just happens to be adjacent to a prepositional phrase.

I futzed about with a Syntax Search (here's a version you can grab: https://flshare.net/n36jc7 ) that isn't perfect, but isn't bad either.

Here's the search:

Here are some results: