Official: Early access updates and subscription pricing
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Will Qumran Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls Database be available in Pro or Max? I'm paying 5.99 a month for this Database now.
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Pedro Pozo said:
I signed up for the early access because I though I was getting a deep discount. ($39.99 to $13.99).
It is what it is now, but it’s not cool that we had $39.99 as the price for those who did not invest in the features before, and that there is such a small difference in price vs not having the Early Access. The price of my features is only a fraction of the discount I get over 2 years now.
Nonetheless, your savings will continue to accumulate. In addition, you will earn the LFL for free, giving you ownership of features. Would you really want new customers to pay $39.99/mo. while acquiring no ownership of features?
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You bring a good point. Im glad it’s affordable for newbies in Logos. That’s awesome!!!
I just think I would have made a different decision if I had the right info from the get go. Also, I’m not using the AI as much as I thought since I’m doing a lot of language work (Hebrew specifically). I truly hope they bring good AI features to the languages, to make searches easier and more meaningful (grammar, etc).
Pedro
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Pedro Pozo said:
You bring a good point. Im glad it’s affordable for newbies in Logos. That’s awesome!!!
I just think I would have made a different decision if I had the right info from the get go. Also, I’m not using the AI as much as I thought since I’m doing a lot of language work (Hebrew specifically). I truly hope they bring good AI features to the languages, to make searches easier and more meaningful (grammar, etc).
Pedro
CS may be able to process a return if you explain the situation. If you plan on subscribing for awhile, however, I'm not sure how much money that would save you in the long run. I agree that AI tools in the original languages category would be fun to see eventually.
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Interesting, so for me even with the steepest discounts, my annual subscription price will go up 30%. That's quite and inflation!
I really liked the 'no library' connect subscription because given the size of my library and prolific book purchasing, the subscription library always lacked appeal (and often lacked any new provision).
I see it isn't possible to buy 2 years now... are these discounts going away? Can you please be clear what the purchase window is?
I have to be honest that at the full price without discounts I wouldn't consider it. With the discounts, I'm feeling disappointed about it.
Have you considered a full catalog subscription like netflix or perlego for books? Or credits like audible so at least we could choose the books which interest us rather than a fixed bundle?
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John Goodman said:
Interesting, so for me even with the steepest discounts, my annual subscription price will go up 30%. That's quite and inflation!
It actually really isn't. The price for Logos Connect - No Library has been the same for 9 (?) years. So a 30% price increase is much lower than overall inflation. But actually, Logos Pro is the same price as your current subscription and includes everything your current subscription includes (with some tweaks to the free book, cash back, and mobile ed) plus more. Think of Logos Max as a new, higher tier that will eventually offer an extra set of new features and right now offers rental access to some great resources like the EEC.
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Thanks for the update. You write, "We’re closing early access to our new subscriptions on October 4 to get everything prepped for when we fully launch subscriptions in the fall. If you’re already on early access, no action is required. Your subscription will continue without any interruption."
I'm set up to pay $99.99 on Oct 3rd for Pro annual payment but want to change to $189.80 for two years. It doesn't look like that option will be set up by then. What should I do to make that change?
Also, I asked about the difference with Faithlife connect and was told that with a subscription there was not only a 5% reward coupon but also an additional 5% discount on purchases and a 4th extra free book of the month (not from the Classics series). Is this correct?
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1Cor10 31 said:Dave Hooton said:Taylor Blomquist said:
I've update the chart to include other specialty feature sets from Logos 10.
The list order is upside down to me. If you start with Best, then Better, etc we know what "Any other feature set" is. But "Anyone else" is better being phrased as "No feature set".
Nice to see another soul who was bothered by the ordering!
I sent a screenshot to a friend with the caption: Logos marketing's "make it as confusing as possible" strategy strikes again.
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John Goodman said:
I see it isn't possible to buy 2 years now... are these discounts going away? Can you please be clear what the purchase window is?
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/225401/1316444.aspx#1316444
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michael franklin said:
I'm set up to pay $99.99 on Oct 3rd for Pro annual payment but want to change to $189.80 for two years. It doesn't look like that option will be set up by then. What should I do to make that change?
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/225401/1316444.aspx#1316444
Dave
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10/4 is October 4 in USA and April 10 in UK
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michael franklin said:
10/4 is October 4 in USA and April 10 in UK
My point exactly Michael.
It does seem a little strange to end the sale on one date in the US and on another for the rest of the world.
I wonder why they would do that!
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Mike Binks said:michael franklin said:
10/4 is October 4 in USA and April 10 in UK
My point exactly Michael.
It does seem a little strange to end the sale on one date in the US and on another for the rest of the world.
I wonder why they would do that!
Trying to give you a little extra time to learn to spell. That way when you tell everyone it is your favorite upgrade, it will make sense. [:)]
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Justin Gatlin said:Mike Binks said:michael franklin said:
10/4 is October 4 in USA and April 10 in UK
My point exactly Michael.
It does seem a little strange to end the sale on one date in the US and on another for the rest of the world.
I wonder why they would do that!
Trying to give you a little extra time to learn to spell. That way when you tell everyone it is your favorite upgrade, it will make sense.
Except that he will actually tell everyone it's his favourite upgrade[:)]
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If I was migrated from FCE to Pro early access, but want Max, is there a reason to migrate to Max early access or best to wait until the official launch?
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Mark said:
If I was migrated from FCE to Pro early access, but want Max, is there a reason to migrate to Max early access or best to wait until the official launch?
Mark,
I am in the same position as you, and as I understand it is best to wait until the product release before switching to Max. There will be no additional features that are Max only at that time so you are not missing anything except the additional books.
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During the Logos Connect there were some privillages like getting a discount and free books some or at least one book monthly. I intend to think that perhaps Logos Max will take the place of Logos connect or might be very tiny difference than the other tiers. Just very curious!
Blessings in Christ.
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Tes said:
During the Logos Connect there were some privillages like getting a discount and free books some or at least one book monthly. I intend to think that perhaps Logos Max will take the place of Logos connect or might be very tiny difference than the other tiers. Just very curious!
Natalie speaks about this at https://community.logos.com/forums/p/225394/1315854.aspx#1315854
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John Goodman said:
I see it isn't possible to buy 2 years now... are these discounts going away? Can you please be clear what the purchase window is?
Two years will be available at launch. It will be 19 months for the price of 24.
John Goodman said:Have you considered a full catalog subscription like netflix or perlego for books? Or credits like audible so at least we could choose the books which interest us rather than a fixed bundle?
Besides Perlego, no one has cracked books by subscription because most publishers are not interested in it. (And when you see how much artists make from Spotify, for example, that might explain why.) Even then, Perlego is relatively limited in its content. Even Kindle Unlimited has an extremely limited catalog, and if Amazon can't pull it off, it's unlikely we'll be able to.
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Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
It will be 19 months for the price of 24.
I would suggest to marketing that 24 months for the price of 19 might be a more marketable offer.
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Great! But what are the resources included in the Premium, Pro or Max?
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Renold Burke said:
Great! But what are the resources included in the Premium, Pro or Max?
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Hi John, happy to provide some clarity for you. As you've pointed out, the two year option isn't available yet. While the window for picking up an early access subscription ends on October 4, the prices shown in my post reveal what the prices will be (including the 2 yr optoin) when we launch the subscriptions to the public very soon.John Goodman said:I see it isn't possible to buy 2 years now... are these discounts going away?
John Goodman said:With the discounts, I'm feeling disappointed about it.
I'm sorry you're disappointed about our pricing. Our intent was that Logos Pro would be the replacement for Connect Essentials (No Library), our plan is to migrate everyone (who hasn't already chosen a different subscription) to Pro. You can read more about that here. While it doesn't include a few features of the Logos 10 Full Feature Set, it does include all of the newest developments that will be available at launch. If you own the Logos 10 Full Feature set, then you would only see gains from the new features in Pro and your price wouldn't change at all. In fact, if you went the two year option, your price would be better than the "no library" option.
Regarding the two year option, early access customers will have the ability to take advantage of that. The solution may not be available on launch day, but we will communicate here in the forums, and in email, how early access subscribers can take advantage of that opportunity when it's available.
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Whatever you do you'll be able to take advantage of the two year option. When a solution is available for early access customers to take advantage of the two year option, we'll communicate here in the forums, and via email on how you can get the two year option.michael franklin said:What should I do to make that change?
michael franklin said:Also, I asked about the difference with Faithlife connect and was told that with a subscription there was not only a 5% reward coupon but also an additional 5% discount on purchases
That's correct
michael franklin said:and a 4th extra free book of the month (not from the Classics series). Is this correct?
It depends on by what you mean by "4th extra free book". The new perk gives an additional free book, and it is not from the "Classics series". It will sit on top of our formal free book promotion, which typically has 1 to 2 free books per month. But there is also a free audio book, ebook, and Verbum book each month. Which is why I called into question the "4th free extra book" comment.
Connect users had a free book perk that sat on top of these monthly freebies. The Connect freebies were from the "Classics" series. This is being replaced by our new perk. With the new perk you can expect the same quality of book that we use in our formal free book program each month.
So to restate, in case you got lost in all the freebies we provide [;)]: Yes, you will get an extra free book that is only available if you subscribe, and it will not be limited to the classics series.0 -
MJ. Smith said:Mark Barnes (Logos) said:
It will be 19 months for the price of 24.
I would suggest to marketing that 24 months for the price of 19 might be a more marketable offer.
It probably doesn't need to be said, but I'll confirm anyways: we are offering 24 months for the price of 19. [H]
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Thanks Justin
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How long is this offer good for?Taylor Blomquist said:It probably doesn't need to be said, but I'll confirm anyways: we are offering 24 months for the price of 19
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Beloved Amodeo said:
How long is this offer good for?
Thanks for asking, we haven't given the 2 year option an end date. We feel that the 2 year option is going to be the best option for those of you who are avid Logos users. However, we know this is a big transition and we want to ensure you have adequate time to decide what's best for you.
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