Will the AI-O-Meter be coming to the Desktop App

Kiyah
Kiyah Member Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

I noticed in the web app that there is an AI credits usage icon next to the store icon.

Will this be coming to the desktop app at some point (with the ability to hide it in settings of course)?

Tagged:

Comments

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle Member, MVP Posts: 32,426 ✭✭✭

    Adam Borries said this in a FB post

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member Posts: 731 ✭✭

    with the ability to hide it in settings of course
    I would like to highlight this comment, as it is important to me.

    There is a pattern that is often followed where features are tested in the Web app before entering desktop beta.

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭✭

    with the ability to hide it in settings of course
    I would like to highlight this comment, as it is important to me.

    There is a pattern that is often followed where features are tested in the Web app before entering desktop beta.

    Yes, the ability to hide it is crucial. I want to be able to see it before I get to 80% or 100%, but I won't want to see it "all the time."

  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 596 ✭✭

    This has made my day.  I can't stop looking at it all the time.

    👁️ 👁️

  • Lew Worthington
    Lew Worthington Member Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭

    They should put Kiyah in charge of feature nomenclature. I absolutely love "AI-O-Meter". 😁

  • NichtnurBibelleser
    NichtnurBibelleser Member Posts: 269 ✭✭

    Nice!

    Maybe I'm a bit short sighted, but here it doesn't say if credits not used at the end of a month are transferred and added to the next month (does it)?

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member Posts: 731 ✭✭

    Nice!

    Maybe I'm a bit short sighted, but here it doesn't say if credits not used at the end of a month are transferred and added to the next month (does it)?

    It has been clearly communicated (somewhere) that leftover credits do not transfer to the next month. It's a clean reset every month. However, the intention is that users have more than enough credits every month. So if a user is consistently running out of credits, that may indicate that something might need to be adjusted in their workflow to better manage AI credits.

  • Adam Borries (Logos)
    Adam Borries (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 870

    Adam Borries said this in a FB post

    Just confirming, yes, this will be in desktop 38.0, which will release to beta on Nov 5 and to stable Dec 3. 

    Yes, the ability to hide it is crucial. I want to be able to see it before I get to 80% or 100%, but I won't want to see it "all the time."

    We won't have a setting to hide it in v38. Most people seem to think that more information is better -- but then, after we show it all the time, we might hear from more people like you who find it distracting. Later, we might add a setting to turn it on or off, or change what % you see it at, or (I like your idea, Kiyah) always show it in the About panel. 

    Pleasing everyone is hard! Thanks for your patience while we dial this in. 

  • Adam Borries (Logos)
    Adam Borries (Logos) Member, Logos Employee Posts: 870

    Nice!

    Maybe I'm a bit short sighted, but here it doesn't say if credits not used at the end of a month are transferred and added to the next month (does it)?

    It has been clearly communicated (somewhere) that leftover credits do not transfer to the next month. It's a clean reset every month. 

    It does say in that same article: 
    > These are all drawn from the same fixed pool of credits, which is renewed each month and does not roll over.

    (emphasis added) 

    However, the intention is that users have more than enough credits every month. So if a user is consistently running out of credits, that may indicate that something might need to be adjusted in their workflow to better manage AI credits.

    So far, the biggest areas of credit spend have been for the Auto-Translation tool and Smart Search Synopsis
    That makes sense, since passively leaving those tools open will continue to use AI credits as you keep using the panel. 

    • If you have the Translate sidebar open in a resource, it will continue to generate new translations as you scroll through the book. 
    • If you have the Synopsis card open in a Smart Search, it will generate a new synopsis for every new search. 

    So if you find you are using AI credits too quickly, just X out of those tools, and they will stay closed. They are only a click away when you want them back. 

    Screenshot 2024-10-23 At 5.39.20 PM

  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 596 ✭✭

    I love it. I keep going to the web app just to look at it.

    👁️ 👁️

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭✭

    Later, we might add a setting to turn it on or off, or change what % you see it at, or (I like your idea, Kiyah) always show it in the About panel. 

    Pleasing everyone is hard!

    Always showing it in the About panel was not my idea but it's a good one. My suggestion would be to both add a show/hide setting for the toolbar in Settings AND have it always show it the About page. The former would allow users to see their on-going usage if they using heavy AI features (translation, synopsis) and hide it when they're not. The About page would be a quick way for anyone to check where they are but not have to see it on the toolbar.

    I feel like if you implement it that way you'll please the most number of people and use cases. People who want to see it on the toolbar all the time can do that. People who want to see it on the toolbar sometimes can turn it on and off. People who want to see it never can leave it off. People who just want to spot-check their usage can go to About page.

  • Kiyah
    Kiyah Member Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭✭

    They should put Kiyah in charge of feature nomenclature. I absolutely love "AI-O-Meter". 😁

    I really do think they should name it the AI-O-Meter in Settings:

    Show AI-O-Meter on Toolbar: Yes/No

    Then we'd get to type 'Set Show AI-O-Meter on Toolbar to Yes' in the command box.

  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 596 ✭✭

    I really do think they should name it the AI-O-Meter in Settings:

    Show AI-O-Meter on Toolbar: Yes/No

    Then we'd get to type 'Set Show AI-O-Meter on Toolbar to Yes' in the command box.

    Put a suggestion up for it.  I'm voting for that 

    👁️ 👁️