How can I get an L4 style link for my resource?

Mary-Ellen

In the new resource toolbar, under Share, what I get when I click "Copy Link" is the ref.ly link, that first opens my browser before I can send it to Logos.  Am I missing something?

I was able to get an L4 link for one of my Notebooks, through the three-dot panel menu.  I no longer see that option in the resource panel menu.

NB.Mick

Mary-Ellen said:

In the new resource toolbar, under Share, what I get when I click "Copy Link" is the ref.ly link, that first opens my browser before I can send it to Logos.  Am I missing something?

No, this is how it now works for subscribers with the new resource toolbar. Ref.ly-links are continued, the other verions, including L4-links, no longer. Ref.ly-links currently open the web app first prior to opening the desktop application on Windows (elsewhere in the forums Bradley claims this is not happening for Mac and for iOS and Android, only for Windows, where they intend to change that sometime in the future - I wouldn't hold my breath...) 

Actually the links look quite identical, so you can convert any ref.ly-link into the equivalent L4-link. Just take out the "https://ref.ly/" and replace the "/" after logosres with a colon ":", the "?" if present with a semicolon.

For example: https://ref.ly/logosres/clctsrdwcws?ref=Page.p+xi  will become logosres:clctsrdwcws;ref=Page.p_xi 

Mary-Ellen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1323127#Comment_1323127

Thanks so much!  That's going onto a sticky note!

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

Mary-Ellen said:

the ref.ly link, that first opens my browser before I can send it to Logos

What application are you using this link in?

Mary-Ellen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1323133#Comment_1323133

In Word 365.

Mary-Ellen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1323127#Comment_1323127

I just noticed that your example included one more substitution, that I just discovered by trial and error:  replace the "+" with "_"

In addition, I found that the "&" needs to replaced with ";":

https://ref.ly/logosres/dscrsnlyswrtngs?ref=Page.p+168&off=182&ctx=+are+in+continuity.+~τε+is+sometimes+foun 

Mary-Ellen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1323191#Comment_1323191

Somehow my last line of text didn't make it.

logosres:dscrsnlyswrtngs;ref=Page.p_168;off=182;ctx=_are_in_continuity._~%CF%84%CE%B5_is_sometimes_foun

Leonard Metsäranta

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1323127#Comment_1323127

Thank you so much! Lifesaver !!

Leonard Metsäranta

https://community.logos.com/discussion/226435/how-can-i-get-an-l4-style-link-for-my-resource

Unsure if you are still interested in using L4 links but with the removal of L4 links also for non-subscription based customers now in the latest update I expect this thread to gain attention. Personally I don't want to use anything else given that the new ref.ly links are so much slower. This has led me to into the creation of a simple program that converts ref.ly links into L4. This is hopefully a temporal solution in the wait that they release something faster than ref.ly, or undo the removal of L4. Basically you can paste almost any ref.ly link into the converter and get a working L4 link as output. I say almost any since I haven't made support for tools I expect people generally don't use as much, such as Canvas etc. More popular tools such as Factbook is supported along with all books and "normal" resources. If anyone reading this wants to try it out and wish to get support for said tools, or even manages to finds errors, feel free to hit me up.

The converter as well as updates to the converter can be downloaded from this link.
https://drive.proton.me/urls/6RCP249SW0#Rcoj6yBlg4Ox

Cheers!

Dave Hooton

@Leonard Metsäranta The converter as well as updates to the converter can be downloaded from this link.

It doesn't correctly convert links of type https://ref.ly/1Th4.13;nicnt73th1 =⇒ logosres:nicnt73th1;ref=BibleNICNT73TH1.1Th4.13. It should be: logosres:nicnt73th1;ref=Bible.1Th4.13

But it does do well with https://ref.ly/1En6.6;otpseud01 =⇒ logosres:otpseud01;ref=BibleOTP.1En6.6

Leonard Metsäranta

Thank you @Dave Hooton for noticing this! I've now fixed the issue. The updated version can be downloaded by the same link above. Please notify me if you run into other issues!

While fixing the issue I found yet another problem with the ref.ly link that thankfully automatically gets corrected during the L4 conversion. The error with the ref.ly link occurs when copying a shorthand-link location in a resource that has within the commentary a corrected verse by the author. An example of this is in the Anchor Yale commentary 24C. Here when you copy the location of Joel 3.1 the ref.ly link (https://ref.ly/Joe3.1;anchor29joe) erroneously opens Joel 4.1 instead of 3.1. Converting it to L4 (logosres:anchor29joe;ref=BibleBHS.Joe3.1) however makes it work.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

I found yet another problem with the ref.ly link

FWIW this was already discovered in internal testing and fixed for the next version of Logos.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1360658#Comment_1360658

Yes, v1.3 has corrected the issue I raised, and works with offsets as well e.g. https://ref.ly/logosres/anchor23ais?ref=BibleBHS.Is12.1-6&off=2684

Leonard Metsäranta

New version of the converter is out. It fixes some issues when handling links by an author with spaces in its name (Pliny the Elder etc.)
Still waiting for Logos staff to reintegrate L4 into the program or fix the ref.ly issue on Windows!

https://drive.proton.me/urls/6RCP249SW0#Rcoj6yBlg4Ox

Bryan Payne

When I downloaded this converter and ran the executable file, my anti-virus software said the file contained the trojan "Bearfoos.A!ml". I don't know if that was a false positive, but you may want to check your converter program.

I'm sad we're having to look for outside support for something that has been so helpful.

Aaron Hamilton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1369032#Comment_1369032

See Bradley's post:

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1368973#Comment_1368973

Bryan Payne

Thank you Aaron. I appreciate your reply. That is very helpful.

Leonard Metsäranta

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1369032#Comment_1369032

Thank you for bringing this to my attention! When I looked up "Bearfoos.A!ml" it seems like others have had the same issue when creating a single executable file from python. I can assure you that there is no trojan in the script! For this very reason I have added the python script in the drive so that everyone can examine it and be sure what is running on your PC. If you have python installed you don't even need the executable file. You can just make the program yourself according to the code I shared.

As Aaron shared a website has now been launched that converts these links. It works very well apart from some type of ref.ly links that it wont convert (such as https://ref.ly/a/hstrspolybius04/title to name an example) but these are few in number.
If you are like me and dislike using the browser and rather have a small pinnable window then it might interest you to know I've updated the converter to work with all types of links along with an UI update. The source code is included so feel free to create your own guaranteed safe version! To me it is no difference so if the browser works for you then by all means use it! Anyway thank you again for bringing this to my attention! If you don't mind me asking perhaps you could tell me what anti-virus software are you using? I ask so that I can replicate the issue and correct it. Have a great day!