Parity: Bring to iPad all the features of the desktop version

Hanson
Hanson Member Posts: 31 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Feedback
iPadOS needs all the features of the desktop version. Running the iOS logos on iPadOS is extremely limiting and new iPads can handle to the workload.
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  • This needs to happen! for me, it's the only thing holding me back and not upgrading from the base package. iPadOS would easily handle this on the pro versions
  • Ilian
    Ilian Member Posts: 25 ✭✭✭
    I use the iPad for preaching and in Bible groups. I would need more assistants and offline functions (e.g. pastoral care and fact book). The performance is very high, comparable to notebooks.
  • I absolutely agree! The Ipad Pro is my daily companion. The only software that still forces me to use the PC is logos.
    The mobile app must be offered separately for IOS and IpadOS. Simply one Version for Smartphones like it is now, and another Version for iPadOS including all features of the Desktop Version. It's just very frustrating that I just can't use most of the expensive features on the go.
  • This is the single thing stopping me from spending a whole lot of money on Logos resources!
  • Dale DePriest
    Dale DePriest Member Posts: 28
    I believe this would require a whole new application. In my opinion this is a good idea but should be a separate app leaving the current app in place. Of course this might require supporting both apps but not all iPads are as powerful as a PC although some are. Some people find the PC version more difficult to use. This is a consideration for two apps. The screen size is still limited and currently has some features such as multiple windows by scrolling left/right as an option, that I really like.
  • Yes please!! I would love to put my presentation together on my IPAD!!!
  • I use a 2020 iPad Pro as my day to day computer. The ONLY software I use regularly that forces me to dig out my old MacBook is Proclaim. Bummer.
  • This would be cash money! For faithlife that is. I’m happily iPad only and the ONLY reason I have considered getting a laptop is because of Logos. Don’t make me do that guys!
  • @dalede-45 this is a fair point. Apps like Things have separate apps for iPhone and iPad at different costs, something like that may be the way to do it.
  • Mitchell Holley
    Mitchell Holley Member Posts: 3 ✭✭
    I agree my iPad Pro is faster than my laptop and could handle it. Also, I really miss have the counseling program/workflow from the desktop version. I don’t won’t my laptop up in front of me when counseling, but a tablet is good and more discreet
  • Hanson
    Hanson Member Posts: 31 ✭✭✭
    Now that the iPad Pro has the M1 chip I can't think of any reason to not bring a fully functional desktop version of Logos to the iPad. I know for a lot of us the iPad has replaced the desktop with the exception of Logos. Also, looking forward, I guarantee apple replaces their Macbook line up with the iPad––hence the M1 chip.
  • pastor.hpbc.clovis
    pastor.hpbc.clovis Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
    Thinking of moving to the iPad Pro and getting rid of my MacBook Air and right now Logos is the only app that I have reservations about. Would love to see a dedicated iPadOS app!
  • Yeti
    Yeti Member Posts: 15
    This would be WONDERFUL!!!!
  • Hanson
    Hanson Member Posts: 31 ✭✭✭
    @dalede-45 this is a valid point. However, I do believe devices with the new M1 chip can handle it without out issue.
  • Dale DePriest
    Dale DePriest Member Posts: 28
    Newer M1 units could handle this but people shouldn't have to buy a new iPad to run Logos. The older unit version could be maintained and improved as needed with a full version also available.
  • Daniel McCoy
    Daniel McCoy Member Posts: 70
    I second what many have said. I want to be iPad only, but the only software keeping me using a laptop is Faithlife - Logos and Proclaim desktop apps. If we could have the current mobile app maintained for phones and also have a fully functional desktop app available, that would be ideal! The web app is nowhere near as functional as the desktop app, it's slower, and it requires internet (which is an issue here in rural America!).
  • Dirk Boersma
    Dirk Boersma Member Posts: 20 ✭✭
    Amen to that! I feel strongly about this regarding the Notes tool.
  • Ethan Sayler
    Ethan Sayler Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    I just suggested adding Workflows, but I agree that bringing the full range of features to the iPad would be excellent.
  • James Clark
    James Clark Member Posts: 65
    I say lets do it, and heres how and why I say we only need one app. just the logos mobile app, phones and ipads are quite powerful, the way you could cut down is say settings, set it up for what you want it, like say ok you want tabs instead of windows view, set it in settings, how you want your books to appear, set it that way, if you want to use desktop features or just the mobile features, set it... that way its one app and each user gets to choose and nobody loses any money or is forced to upgrade systems.      you market it as you already are, study on the go, keep providing it on the appstore, I mean lets face it, ipad and ios are basically the same, so... 
     the difference between logos now on the go and what the future could be could be under settings and the user could set it as he or she wants. now that would be awesome. 
  • Hanson
    Hanson Member Posts: 31 ✭✭✭
    Logos are you listening?
  • millerjohn65300
    millerjohn65300 Member Posts: 3
    I have Logos proper on my laptop, which is great when I use my laptop, but I rarely use it anymore since I have an iPad now which is much more mobile and flexible. I know many people, myself included, who are trying to consolidate their resources on to a single device, but that is only 100% effective if the Logos iPad app is just as functional as the desktop version. I am thankful for the Logos app I have now, but I think there should be a difference between “Logos Mobile” for phones, and “Logos Tablet,” with the tablet version being just as capable as the desktop version.
  • I’ve moved to using my iPad Pro 12.9 M1 as my primary computer (and only computer in my office).  Can’t access a number of features from the desktop version unless at home.  Using an external monitor, keyboard, and trackpad.  Recently have begun experimenting with iPadOS 16 beta.
  • Daniel McCoy
    Daniel McCoy Member Posts: 70
    edited November 21
    With the power of iPad, specifically iPad Pro, I prefer to use the iPad as my primary work device. The only application currently holding me back from making the switch is Logos. I love the desktop app, but I am disappointed with the mobile (and the web) app. For instance I love the corresponding words visual filter to highlight lemmas or roots, but the mobile app does not seem to have it, and the web app only incorporates surface text. iPad Pro is capable of running the full desktop app, and with the migration of Macs to custom Apple Silicon, their goal is for apps to be cross platform with their Swift language.
  • David Gayle Woods
    David Gayle Woods Member Posts: 32 ✭✭
    Yes, please!!!
  • This would be super helpful. For me, it would be especially useful to have the full sermon builder capabilities on my iPad (exporting slides and handouts, sermon notebooks, etc.).  
  • Hanson
    Hanson Member Posts: 31 ✭✭✭
    Wrote this 2 years ago. I still stand by the recommendation. However, you can use the logos web within your browser on your iPad. 
  • Ok, FWIW, I’m still using Logos on my iPad which I’ve now upgraded to the new M2 iPad Pro. Still only using my old MacBook for Proclaim editing. Almost always use Logos on the iPad. I couldn’t tell you what the desktop version of Logos has that the iPad version doesn’t because I rarely use the Desktop version. For many, many people in the category of Pastor/Teacher, iPads are going to increasingly become the primary computer. While that scenario may be a long way off for pros in many industries, for average folks and people whose professional life consists of research, writing, and public speaking the trend is clear. I love your products. I hope the product teams and devs have the foresight to keep up with the times.
  • @Tim  Amen. I hope the product teams at Faithlife have the foresight to keep up with this trend. I hate to see companies go the way of OliveTree Bible Software. They used to be the most popular mobile Bible platform back in the Palm OS days. They refused to “abandon” their legacy base of Palm OS users when iOS came out and fell way behind. Sadly now, you may have never even heard of them because they couldn’t see where things were going clearly enough to make tough resource allocation decisions. Faithlife isn’t at the edge of the precipice (not yet anyway) but I sometimes wonder if they’ve accepted where this is all headed. I hope so. I really like their products and have invested too much to see them disappear.
  • Beverly Everson
    Beverly Everson Member Posts: 4
    I agree. The iPad app is very limited. I would like to see a welcome screen and side bar like the desktop version.