Add Item: Liturgy

bhill
bhill Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
Would love to add liturgy as an item. Your song item is great for songs. Would work similarly, with the text in one panel and them manipulated for space. Leader in reg fon, People distinguished. Next level would be to access and cite various sources, like The Book of Common Worship from the Presbyterian Church USA
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  • Tyler Rasmussen
    Tyler Rasmussen Member Posts: 110 ✭✭✭
    Often we use liturgy that is copyrighted. This week we found a veteran's day litany we're going to use that is copyrighted. Free to use as long as we show the copyright information.

    Right now, Songs does a great job of displaying copyright, but we don't want to have our liturgy pieces appear in the song library.

    It would be really nice if:
    1) There was a Content Item built for spoken text that is copyrighted
    2) This content item potentially added the spoken text to a "liturgy" library similar to the song library; especially for baptisms, it would be really nice to simply have "baptism liturgy" in a library rather than trying to remember the last service we had a baptism at and search for that to do copy/paste from.
    3) This content item had similar options to the song item, including showing a title page and various placements of the copyright information
  • Tyler Rasmussen
    Tyler Rasmussen Member Posts: 110 ✭✭✭
    ELCA (Lutheran) congregation here. Right now we're using the content item and varying leader in italics and assembly in bold, but if there was an item that made liturgy easier to present, it would be nice.


    P: The Lord be with you.
    C: And also with you.


    Particularly, in the print bulletins we find it helpful to put letters like P (pastor/presider), A (assisting minister, though in other places assembly), and C (congregation) (and in other places M for minister) before text. But on the screen this looks odd. If we could easily copy and paste with our letters and FaithLife did the formatting automatically based on those letters, that would be awesome!
  • bhill
    bhill Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
    Yes, exactly this! WOuld use it every week.
  • Alan Sommer
    Alan Sommer Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    We would also love this feature.  A hanging indent option for text in a text box would be of great assistance in setting up liturgical responses.
  • Tyler Rasmussen
    Tyler Rasmussen Member Posts: 110 ✭✭✭
    To give a longer example, here's our bulletin liturgy for Easter:



    P:     Alleluia! Christ is risen. 

    C:     Christ is risen indeed. Alleluia!

    P:     In the waters of baptism, we have passed over from death to life with Jesus Christ, and we are a new creation. For this saving mystery and for this water, let us bless God, who was, who is, and who is to come.

    Water is poured into the font.

    P:     We thank you, God, for your river of life, flowing freely from your throne: through the earth, through the city, through every living thing.

    C:     Thank you, God, for giving us life.

    P:     You rescued Noah and his family from the flood; You opened wide the sea for the Israelites. Now in these waters you flood us with mercy, and our sin is drowned forever. You open the gate of righteousness and we pass safely through.

    C:     Thank you, God, for saving our lives.

    P:     In Jesus Christ, you calm and trouble the waters. You nourish us and enclose us in safety. You call us forth and send us out. In lush and barren places, you are with us. You have become our salvation.

    C:     Thank you, God, for renewing our lives.

    P:     Now breathe upon this water and awaken your church once more. Claim us again as your beloved and holy people. Quench our thirst; cleanse our hearts; wipe away every tear.

    C:     Thank you, God, for restoring our lives.

    P:     To you, our Beginning and our End, our Shepherd and Lamb, be honor, glory, praise, and thanksgiving, now and forever.

    C:     Amen.

    A:      Alleluia! Christ is risen. 


    C:     Christ is risen indeed. Alleluia!

    A:      The peace and joy of the risen Lord be with you all.

    C:     And also with you.


    The assembly shares peace with one another.

    It would be so nice if pasting that into a liturgy slide automatically resulted in instantly-formatted slides.
  • Charles Lakos
    Charles Lakos Member Posts: 2 ✭✭
    Anglican Church in Australia would love to use such a feature for traditional services.
  • Paul Maybury
    Paul Maybury Member Posts: 7
    Would be happy to help create a library of liturgical text from the Church of England Common Worship which could be shared and searched like songs or bible if there was a database template to populate. 
  • Tim Biel
    Tim Biel Member Posts: 3
    The United Methodists would like the UM Book of Worship liturgies accessible as well. 
    Having the Upper Room Worship Book available as a resource would be great, too
  • paul.nelson
    paul.nelson Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
    Similar to a post I've just added where I've added our baptism service as a song. I did also create it from "add item/content" but there was no clear way to save this as a repeating schedule item.
  • Completely agree with this and find it very frustrating that this can't be done.  It should be simple as Proclaim allows something similar with content items.


    We often use responsive spoken items (creeds , confessions , acclamations , prayer responses).  These items are used repeatedly over the course of a year in exactly the same way as a song would be.   We do not want to have to type these items in fresh as Content items each time.  This is incredibly laborious and makes it much harder to include them properly. 


    The main problem is with the responsive element. This is because , where something is responsive it must show this clearly on the screen.  The easiest way to do this is with different colored fonts (service leader in white; response in yellow for example).  Without this functionality it is confusing for the congregation and doesn't work (people join in with the service leader and it becomes a mess). 


    At the present time, Proclaim is fine with non responsive elements.  For example we can put the Lord's Prayer in as a song - it will all be in white font but that is fine because we all say the whole thing.


    But Proclaim has no way of handling responsive elements properly because all song words are automatically the same color and emphasis. 



    We currently also use Planning Center.  I discovered that this is not the case with Planning Center.  On Planning Center if you use the bold function, you can emphasise via bold text even in a song.  But this functionality does not transfer to Proclaim.  Instead , the bold function gets broadcast on Proclaim and all the font is the same color.

    Please look into changing this.  It appears to me to be a fairly straightforward move and Proclaim already has this functionality when creating sermon slides on a content item.  I forget what the command is, but there is one that asks the text to be bold (something like ++).  Can't this functionality just be added to song lyrics?  


    Thanks for considering this
  • Andy Bleach
    Andy Bleach Member Posts: 63 ✭✭
    Yes, please add a liturgy database like the songs database. 
  • Tyler Rasmussen
    Tyler Rasmussen Member Posts: 110 ✭✭✭
    Duplicate of https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/faithlife-proclaim/posts/content-item-for-copyrighted-liturgy
  • Tyler Rasmussen
    Tyler Rasmussen Member Posts: 110 ✭✭✭
    See also https://feedback.faithlife.com/boards/proclaim/posts/content-item-for-copyrighted-liturgy
  • Ian McGrath (St Phils)
    Ian McGrath (St Phils) Member Posts: 3
    I am from Australia and would love to add our prayer book as well.
  • Paul R
    Paul R Member Posts: 16 ✭✭
    Having a library of these would be huge! Both having access to all the previous liturgical items you've used at your church, but also being able to search prayer books—that seems like it's right in the wheel house of Logos.