To Clip or Not to Clip, what say you all:

Antony Brennan
Antony Brennan Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭

If you are a clipper please tell us about it in the comments I am interested in the pros and cons. In the meantime this is what Shakespeare might say about it-

To clip, or not to clip—that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler for the mind to suffer
The chaos of fleeting thoughts uncollected,
Or to wield the tool and snip a sea of notes,
And by organizing, master them? To store,
To keep—and by keeping say we end
The mental clutter and forgotten gems
That thought is heir to—'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To store, to share…
To share, perchance inspire—ay, there’s the spark!
For in those stored clippings, what insights may come,
When we have paused to tag and sort them well,
Must give us pause—there’s the respect
That makes this tool a scholar’s friend indeed.

But who would bear the labor of the tags,
The endless clicks, the over-full archive,
The pangs of missing context, and the toil
Of finding clippings lost in labyrinths,
When one might simply bookmark as they go,
And trust their mind to recollect the thought?
Yet conscience whispers: "System makes us wise,"
And so the chaos gives way to order’s hand;
Thus discipline doth shape the scholar’s mind,
And wisdom grows from stored and pondered texts,
With clippings poised to light our studies' path.

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To Clip or Not to Clip, what say you all: 12 votes

I Clip
41%
BenAndreas HolmbergGaoLuDavid ScottDavid Taylor, Jr. 5 votes
I don’t Clip
41%
BerechiahPhil QuigleyMariaMichael RansomPaul 5 votes
No comment
16%
MJ. SmithFrank Sauer 2 votes
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  • Michael Ransom
    Michael Ransom Member Posts: 64 ✭✭
    I don’t Clip

    Clippings is one of the few Logos features that I intentionally avoid using, so I'm commenting here with an open mind to hear other's thoughts. Maybe your use cases will persuade me to change. There are a few minor shortcomings that hold me back from Clippings; among them (a) lack of convenient ways to anchor a Clipping to bible text and books, and (b) no ability to tap into my Notes tagging system. The primary reason I don't use Clippings is my own phobia about stashing away bits and pieces of information without visual indicators that "something is there". Logos' Notes icons allow me to see that there is something to read related to a bible text or a book, including custom note icons that signal what type of information it is (e.g., a sermon vs a personal observation). To store, to tag, to consider, to share, yea perchance to inspire, I findeth worthy utility beyond Clippings. Mike

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭
    edited December 11
    I Clip

    @Michael Ransom

    The primary reason I don't use Clippings is my own phobia about stashing away bits and pieces of information without visual indicators that "something is there".

    I use clippings for temporary consolidation while preparing something. I don't see it as a way to permanently store information for retrieval, though I do save them and occasionally/rarely refer back.

  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭

    @Michael Ransom @GaoLu

    I have not been a clipper for years. Just recently I watched one of @Jason Stone (Logos) interviews where Clipping was mentioned. It made me go back and take a look, and I saw it in a different light.

    When I first came across the utility, a few years ago, I clipped a bit as a temporary collection but quickly forgot they were even there.😱

    This time round, perhaps because I have a purpose, I am seeing clipping in a different light. I am looking at 1Peter and wondering what sources there may be. Commenters, and cross references, mention the canonical sources so I was able to start a clipping document and as I looked at each one I could highlight it and add it to the clipping file by highlighting and right clicking the text and choosing the clipping document I had created.

    In the clipping document you can make notes about each clipping to reference what you think about it. You can also drag them around to put them in the order you want. It would be good if you could create headings like you can in passage lists.

    I have a contents note, which contains links to the notes I have made about 1 Peter, so I copied the L4 link of the clipping document and placed that in the contents note under the topic 1 Peter sources.

    Then it became more interesting when I was looking or non-canonical sources because as I find them I can just clip them directly into the clipping document, make a note about them and, using the link in my contents note, easily find them for review later on.

    It seems much more civilised than what I was doing before, which was when I found something I would create and L4 link and go and paste it in a note and comment on it. The new way is more efficient. I can concentrate on collection and leave review 'till later.

    Then I got to wondering what others might be doing with clipping that could be useful.

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  • Kevin Houghtaling
    Kevin Houghtaling Member Posts: 66 ✭✭
    edited December 12

    You must have seen the same interview. It gave me a new perspective and better use for clippings including the search means of a word or topic to get back to even random clippings.

  • Maria
    Maria Member Posts: 205 ✭✭
    edited December 12
    I don’t Clip

    I used to think I would use clippings regularly if I needed to research for the purpose of presenting a formal paper. But now, I suspect I've become so familiar with notes and sermon builder that I think I'd actually use those two tools instead. Meanwhile, for informal research, I find using only notes (especially when left open and saved in topic-specific layouts, with related books and resources open in separate tabs) works well for me.

  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭
    I Clip

    I use clippings heavily when doing research. I don't want to create new notes with my clips and gum up my notes files. Clippings is clean, it retains the formatting of the resources, allows me to note, and allows me to export bibliographic references. I use it all the time.

  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭

    Yes that's the one. I got all excited about it after watching that.

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  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭

    Thats the way I went too , but now I can see there are some places I will use clippings.

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  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭

    There should be a "Heavy Clipper" badge that shows up on up on your profile.

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  • Antony Brennan
    Antony Brennan Member Posts: 747 ✭✭✭

    Another way you can file your clippings is in the Favourites utility which you open in the Tools menu. In there you can create folders for the things you are studying. Then you can drag and drop the TAB of your clipping document into the folder, so you can quickly find the ones you want later on.

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  • David Taylor, Jr.
    David Taylor, Jr. Member Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭
    I Clip

    Yes, the favorites tool is probably severely underused.

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭
    edited December 13

    xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

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