Poetry Formatting in the KJV 1900 is no longer available?

Edward Barclay
Edward Barclay Member Posts: 26 ✭✭
edited December 2024 in English Forum

With the updates in the last few days to the KJV 1900 and accompanying internlinears, poetry formatting is no longer on (by default), and I cannot figure out how to turn it back on. I believe that this may have been unintentonial on Logos' part since the capitalizations for the poetic lines still remain in the text (see below).

For example, this is what it does now:

Jeremiah 49:31–33 (KJV 1900)

31 Arise, get you up unto the wealthy nation, That dwelleth without care, saith the Lord, Which have neither gates nor bars, which dwell alone. 32 And their camels shall be a booty, And the multitude of their cattle a spoil: And I will scatter into all winds them that are in the utmost corners; And I will bring their calamity from all sides thereof, saith the Lord. 33 And Hazor shall be a dwelling for dragons, And a desolation for ever: There shall no man abide there, Nor any son of man dwell in it.

This is what it did last week with my same settings (my preferred way):

Jeremiah 49:31–33 (KJV 1900)

31 Arise, get you up unto the wealthy nation,

That dwelleth without care, saith the Lord,

Which have neither gates nor bars, which dwell alone.

32 And their camels shall be a booty,

And the multitude of their cattle a spoil:

And I will scatter into all winds them that are in the utmost corners;

And I will bring their calamity from all sides thereof, saith the Lord.

33 And Hazor shall be a dwelling for dragons,

And a desolation for ever:

There shall no man abide there,

Nor any son of man dwell in it.

Could anyone point me in the right direction to turn poetic formatting back on? I would be most appreciative.

This part, I'm not as confident about… I thought there was a way to turn off the Poetic lines in the ESV (display all text in paragraph form). I could be wrong about that. But I couldn't find a setting that addressed that either.

Comments

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,964

    This is probably related to the issue corrected last week on the use of capitals in the KJV1900 which used some formatting that applied to the Cambridge Paragraph Bible but not the 1900 version. See

    It appears that the poetry formatting is not used in that version - checking against the resource given in the linked post.

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  • Edward Barclay
    Edward Barclay Member Posts: 26 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith, thanks for pointing that out. That's sad.

    Dear Logos Team,

    Would it be possible to enhance the "One Verse Per Line" feature to address a common issue? Specifically, could this option not only remove the paragraph formatting but also adjust the capitalization of poetry lines, making them consistent with standard text formatting? This would accommodate requests like the one from A Reformed on December 18, without requiring users to manually uncapitalize leading lines of poetry.

    Such a change could please both preferences:

    1. Those who prefer the text without poetic formatting and with lowercase letters (aligning with how the print editions often present "One Verse Per Line").
    2. Those who want to retain the poetic formatting as seen in many ancient Hebrew manuscripts.

    Thank you for considering this improvement—it would make the feature even more versatile for a broader range of users.

  • Edward Barclay
    Edward Barclay Member Posts: 26 ✭✭

    Dear Logos Team (again),

    You really did have a wonderful thing going in the Logos edition of the KJV 1900 (pre December 11, 2024). It was unparalleled. And it was unique. You incorporated modern formatting. And you incorporated almost all of the footnotes and cross-references of the original 1611 edition. I have many editions of the beautiful King James text (from Norton, Cambridge, Oxford, many facsimiles of some printings, and even early folio printings). And yours, even though it was digital, was one of my favorites. What you had put together was available nowhere else (the 1900 Cambridge English text, the paragraph formatting of Norton's paragraph Bible, and with the 1600 notes and references). Please don't allow a minority to mess up a good and unique thing.

    Could you somehow work some programming magic to incorporate a method into the "One Verse Per Line" Bible formatting option for replacing the poetic capitals with lower case letters?

    Kind regards,

    Edward

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 35,915

    @Joe McCune (Faithlife)

    This comment shows it will be fixed by rolling back.

    Dave
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