What is this about Mobile Ed courses expiring?!

Christopher Powell · 2024-12-28T17:15:33+00:00

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I'm very confused, I thought that the Mobile Ed courses were permanently added to our account, but, I got an email today saying I better finish them by the end of the year?! That's my first notification that I'm losing them as far as I can tell. Can someone help me out, I've looked at the last few days but didn't see a discussion about this. I hope I've misunderstood or it's just poorly communicated, but, this is something that honestly plays into all my fears about the subscription model.

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Jonathan Huber

Email says it's the courses that are included as part of the subscription. They change every quarter.

DMM

These courses are only available each quarter - so you will loose access to these sometime between 12/31 and 1/1, and a new set will replace them. Obviously, if there were any you already owned, you'll keep those.

This is different than the free course you were able to pick if you bought a 2025 Library - that is yours permanently.

If you go to My Library, select Temporary Licenses, you can see what ones you have.

They buried the announcement in the FAQ. This really should have been sent out in an e-mail to make it clear. https://www.logos.com/subscription-faq

Aaron Hamilton

Temporary access to Mobile ed courses is a "free" perk of the subscription. A Premium subscription will give you temporary access to 3 courses, a Pro subscription to 5, and a Max subscription to 8. These courses cycle out quarterly. Any courses you own are entirely unaffected.

Christopher Powell

Thanks so much everyone, I was having FOMO mobile education anxiety but this is such a busy time of year. I thought I would lose the one I got with the upgrade, and 2 more that I own.

Dan Higgins

How about a notice that is 2-3 weeks before the deadline. I had completely forgotten about these courses when I upgraded from Logos 10 to Logos Premium. To receive a notice 3 days before something expires and those 3 days are right in the middle of the holiday season (0 time to take courses) is bad form. I don't mind the alert but give us enough time to act on it. Please.

Also, though I am not sure what these courses are, what I am looking for are resources on how to use Logos for personal Bible Study. I am not a pastor or seminarian or even a Bible Study leader (though I have often been in the past). I am simply an old, retired person who has time to dig into the Word and would like to understand how best to use the resources that are available. Will these "courses" help me?

Jan Krohn

The following works for Android devices. I don't know whether it works for iOS too.

Download the videos on your device. You can then fetch them from your cache folder with any file system explorer, such as Total Commander, and watch them later, after the expiration date.

Milkman

@Dan. You ask if those resources that are available to you would help. Since FL has gone to "giving" us these courses for a limited time, I have no interest in them. I would not have picked them under the old way of getting free quarterly courses. So they lay dormant in my courses and die a silent death.

I'm not sure what packages you have, but truth be told there is so much that FL has to offer that at times it is overwhelming, not to mention spending on books that I don't really need - just want.

So, I've decided to pick a Biblical book, see what commentaries I have (way too many), and maybe, just maybe, dig out my three-ring binder and do a deep dive. I have even open up my go to Bible and turned some pages. Just the sound of them was refreshing. Just like we used to before all the electronics and platforms were birthed. I'll also pick out a 'figure.' In this case it is Luther and read only what I have in Logos.

One more thing. What I'm doing in regards to biographies. I'm not going electronic any longer. Paperback/hard copies only. I have forgotten what it feels/sounds like with my PC off, no electronic buzzing but just reading a book without the 'noise.' What a 'novel' idea.

So all that to say. Write down what turns your crank, see if you have some resources on that study (don't get too many), buy a couple extra if needs be and then study. You've been around long enough to know what you like and don't. Nice and simple.

Good luck,

mm.

DAL

Temporary access and it’s your responsibility to keep track of them each quarter so you can decide to let them sit there or actually take the courses. Logos gives you 2 weeks notice/reminder give or take and if someone forgot about the courses, then is not Logos responsibility to tell you to take those courses.

Jerry T

Do you all think Max subscribers should get more than a quarter of access being that they get 8 courses? Three months is pretty tight if you’re interested in several courses.

DAL

It’d be silly to think Logos would give you permanent access to their Mobile Ed courses! By giving you 8 per month they would probably be done giving them all away in less than 2 years!
I do agree 8 courses per quarter in a Max subscription is too much to finish them all in one quarter, but oh well.

I’m good with 5 at the Pro level subscription as I can listen rather than sit and watch.

DAL

Jerry T

Permanent access wasn’t my intended suggestion. More time to go with the more courses offered on the Max level is the suggestion.
The benefit of the extra courses on the Max level is just more choices. More variety is a good perk but more time to take advantage of it is a great perk. Might be an inducing selling point for some.

Yasmin Stephen

I'm on Pro, with access to 5, and I see that number only as having more choice in deciding which one(s) I want to attempt, rather than thinking of getting through all 5 in a quarter. If I only have time for one or two courses (or none!), that's fine. There'll be more courses in the next quarter.

My one wish is that Logos wouldn't automatically dump these courses in my library, but allow me choose which one(s) I want, if any.

Pastor Don Carpenter

Man I am frustrated. I guess I am a real bonehead. Where in the world do I find the new free courses. I am a Logos pro subscriber. I went to the link above and they wanted to charge me for the courses listed. I went to the courses tool and there were a million courses and I couldnt find the 5 free ones offered. Any insight?

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351514#Comment_1351514

Look in your library under temporary licenses & Courseware

Jonathan Huber

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351514#Comment_1351514

The free courses should already be in your library as temporary access. That list above is still what's showing in my library, so the quarterly change scheduled for today doesn't appear to have happened yet and I don't know what the new courses will be.

Timothy D. Lee

To see courses that you have access to but don't own, open your library. In the find box, enter:

type:"courseware textbook" license:temporary

(Or, you could use the filters, and select Type: Courseware Textbook and License: Temporary)

There may be some apparent duplicates, since many courses have an actual "textbook" and "activities" that both use the "Courseware Textbook" type.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351512#Comment_1351512

Well, that's good to know. Dumping videos onto my Mac with limited bandwidth while we travel. A confirmed unsubscriber.

MJ. Smith

@DMB

Well, that's good to know. Dumping videos onto my Mac with limited bandwidth while we travel.

Just to clarify - the metadata is added to your library. The resources are not downloaded. You still have to manually download them.

DAL

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351506#Comment_1351506

My Comment was directed to the OP not you 😉

Pastor Don Carpenter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351515#Comment_1351515

Thanks my friend! I finally found it. I thought I had to get it from Logos.com like I would the free books. I want to be a good steward of these resources.

Yasmin Stephen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351532#Comment_1351532

Yes, by dumping I meant pushing to my library, not downloading. Some of them I have absolutely no interest in.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351620#Comment_1351620

Well, that's good to hear!

Jerry T

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1351073#Comment_1351073

This is interesting.

Does anyone know if downloaded courses are saved in some kind of cache on a Mac in a similar way as mentioned above?

John M. Gladden

Our church has a Faithlife Equip subscription which give access to Faithlife TV which appears to include access to most/all Mobile Ed classes. I also have a personal Logos Max subscription AND personally own a number of Mobile Ed classes I have purchased throughout the years. Accessing Mobile Ed via Faithlife TV via our church subscription, it seems like I have access to all Mobile Ed classes I have attempted. However, the Faithlife TV access through the church's Faithlife Equip license does not seem to give access to any of the course work. Accessing Mobile Ed classes via Logos Max subscription does not provide access to all Mobile Ed classes but does provide access to course work material for those I do have access to.

Frankly, I have been confused, for a while, over the relationship of Mobile Ed classes available via Faithlife Equip Faithlife TV and Mobile Ed classes via Logos Max. Any light shed on this relationship would be appreciated…thanx.