Can Logos Add Strong's Numbers to a Translation?

Todd Sumrall
Todd Sumrall Member Posts: 23 ✭✭
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I am currently translating the LXX

Septuaginta, hg. v. Alfred Rahlfs, zweite, verbesserte Auflage, hg. v. Robert Hanhart, © 2006 Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft, Stuttgart

I am creating software modules and would like to assign strong's numbers to whatever Greek in the LXX has a number that can go with it. I have been using ChatGPT, but it makes way too many mistakes often assigning numbers to words that do not actually have a number. I am looking for an alternative that can compare the greek text against the translation and assign numbers.

Thanks

Todd Sumrall

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  • Fabian
    Fabian Member Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭

    Hello Todd

    May you check the https://apostolicbible.com it has Strong's numbers. But as Strong's not cover all the LXX words, I guess he has enlarged the number range.

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  • Todd Sumrall
    Todd Sumrall Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    I've tried having ChatGPT to assign the APB+ numbers to my translation, but I guess there is something to do with comparing the Greek transcript I'm using, and the translation I am doing, against APB+ is just too much for ChatGPT to sort out. There are too many mistakes.

  • Fabian
    Fabian Member Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭

    I guess it is too early for the large language models. Maybe in some years. If they got better.

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  • Rick Brannan
    Rick Brannan MVP Posts: 243

    I'll always say the better option is to go with lemmas. Strongs are solely based on a particular edition of the Greek New Testament, and the further out you get from that single edition, the hinkier things get.

    If you're writing Python, you could use spaCy with a model from HuggingFace (e.g. either the Proiel or Perseus stuff from Jacobo) to get an initial effort at lemmas in the text. If you're super set on Strongs, then you could probably find some data mapping lemma to strongs to then map the available lemmas as necessary.

    In an effort at chiasm I'll say it again, though: the better option is always lemmas.

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  • Todd Sumrall
    Todd Sumrall Member Posts: 23 ✭✭

    "If you're writing Python" That is Greek to me, pun intended! I am not a programmer. I took computer programming in college and found out, I am not a programmer.

  • Mark Allison
    Mark Allison Member Posts: 765 ✭✭✭

    @Fabian is right. Trying to attach traditional Strong's numbers to words in the LXX is going to be an exercise in futility. Strong's numbers aren't even associated with all the Greek words in the New Testament, and the LXX contains around 5,858 unique words that aren't in the NT when proper nouns are excluded.

    It looks like the Apostolic Bible Polyglot has created their own Strong's numbers that you might be able to use.

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