Official: How do you find "Insert Passage Block in Sermon Builder"?

Mark Barnes (Logos)
Mark Barnes (Logos) Administrator, Logos Employee Posts: 1,966

When you type in a Bible passage into Sermon Builder, you get the option of inserting the text of that verse into your sermon, either inline or as a passage block, by pressing Tab or Enter.

One problem with this feature is that sometimes it's possible to accidentally insert a passage block. Perhaps you happened to enter a Bible reference at the end of a line or paragraph, and intended that pressing Enter would start a new paragraph or list item, and were surprised when a passage block was inserted.

One way to solve this problem would be to require you to type CTRL+Enter or Option+Enter to insert a passage block (or something like that). That would give you much more control over whether a passage block was inserted, but would require you to think a bit about the right key combination to get it in.

So, my questions to you are:

  • Do you find yourselves inserting passage blocks by mistake?
  • Would changing the key from "Enter" to "Something+Enter" help or hinder your workflow, or perhaps make no difference at all?

Comments

  • Jedidiah78
    Jedidiah78 Member Posts: 9 ✭✭

    This would be very helpful. I miss the button to insert the bible passage after you had finished that section of typing. I used that feature often and would like to see it come back.

    Not sure if this is where to leave a comment on this other frustration but, having to always go up to the tip menu to backspace the indents is very frustrating and a huge hassle. The key strokes to do this were fine as they were. Why was this changed?

  • Stephan Thelen
    Stephan Thelen Member Posts: 638 ✭✭✭

    I agree. That would be helpful.

    by the way: if I enter a Bible passage the the verse will be inserted. But after that I have the passage description e.g. Gen 1,1 two times in my sermon. One from my entry, one from the inserted verse… could you change that, too?

  • Jonathan Bradley
    Jonathan Bradley Member Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭

    Hey @Mark Barnes (Logos), I do accidentally insert the text in a block quite regularly. I have just used a "." in the past, or a "-", as I rarely use the passage block. If you change it to add an extra keystroke, as per your question, would be show as a pop-up like thing as it does now in the Sermon Builder? That way it would remind the user on how to do the block text.

    Pastor, Mt. Leonard Baptist Church, SBC

  • Aaron Hamilton
    Aaron Hamilton Member, MVP Posts: 1,330
    edited January 26

    I agree with the suggested change, which would allow Enter to perform its default function even after a Bible reference has been typed out. Ctrl+Enter seems to me like a great change. I would expect this to be added to the popup, as Jonathan mentioned, showing "Insert block (Ctrl+↵)".

    @Stephan Thelen if a Bible reference is typed as the first thing on a line, it will disappear and be replaced by the block reference. I imagine they do not delete the reference if there are words prior to it on the line, because, for example, if you conclude a sentence with a Bible reference and then use that reference to insert a block reference, deleting the initial reference would result in you now having an incomplete sentence. Instead, I recommend you start a new line if you would like to insert a block reference without having duplicate references.

  • Matthew R. Funk
    Matthew R. Funk Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    I would find an added keystroke to the passage insertion helpful, leaving "enter" to do its normal keyboard function.

  • Morgan
    Morgan Member Posts: 494 ✭✭✭

    I wouldn't mind CTRl+Enter.

    One other suggestion I would have is that after inserting a scripture block it also start a new line. Currently if you enter a passage and keep typing you can start to edit the passage block itself.