40.0 Beta 1 (40.0.281)
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Smart Bible search is insane. What a game-changing feature. I tested things as simple as "Questions Jesus Asked" and as off-the-wall as "Should I go on a diet?" and the results were great for all of it.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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Tried on Android, seems great! Sorry to ask, but how do I set my iPad-App to Beta?
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I need lessons in trying questions that I would never use. My experience:
- First try, on if a Bible reference changed the search type - result crash
- Second try, on where Joshua's name was changed - precise search gave the answer; smart search threw in a couple of unrelated results
- Third try, compare the results of "institute Lord's supper", "institute communion", and "institute Eucharist" (all without the quotes) … they get similar results but the difference are puzzling - try to save to passage lists only to find that doesn't work making analysis of the results difficult
- Get distracted by cat informing me it is dinner time and decide to try again tomorrow.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I am interested in seeing what questions people try.
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So did it persuade you to go on a diet?
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We were coming at it from different perspectives. I was trying to test its access to tagging, so I was running searches that depended on speaker tags and topics. Then I wanted to see how it responded to concepts that Logos was unlikely to have ever used explicitly (eg "decluttering" gave a lot of passages on contentment).
I can't duplicate your experience except for a nagging cat. "Where was Joshua's name changed?" gives me Numbers 13:16 as the top result and when I typed bible:"Mark 1:5" is changed to precise and ran the search correctly. The different results for various communion terms is interesting, but it might be tied to the specific terminology in the passage.
One thing I was concerned about was whether or not implicit bias in a user's question would shape results, but searches like "sacrament of baptism" and "ordinance of baptism" give the same results. It is interesting to me as an evangelical that "qualifications for priests" showcases Timothy and Titus before Leviticus, but I think it makes sense for what many people will intend with the question.
It also works better than the old fuzzy search for finding paraphrased verses (which is not a very high bar).
The inability to save as a passage list is annoying, and you can't even drag passages from the search panel to add them manually. I hope this is a bug and not a deliberate omission.
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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How do we block abusive members on this new forum software? 😂
Using Logos as a pastor, seminary professor, and Tyndale author
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The Bible search really could be a game-changer. I searched "Paul sharing the gospel," which quickly gave me multiple places in scripture. Even as a starting point for research, I could see myself using this extensively. I'll have to try more and see how accurate it can be, but it seems incredible thus far.
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This is really promising. I did run into an AI-credits-limit after a dozen or so queries.
"Using Precise search because you have reached your monthly limit of AI credits. Limit resets: February 10"
I have spent only 2% of my credits though…
I'm a Logos Premium-subscriber
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@DS sorry you've hit this issue; obviously something isn't right. Can you provide a bit more detail?
- Are you seeing this issue on desktop, web, or mobile?
- Was this a one-time occurance, or does it continue to switch to Precise with the same message every time you try a Smart Bible search?
- Are you able to use other "AI-features" without issue?Glad you think the feature is promising. Let's see if we can get you more than 12 searches!
-Ronny
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@Ronny Woods (Faithlife) Desktop-only. The feature is not available on my iPad and iPhone (however I’m on beta 40 on those devices too). If I switch back to smart after the notice i get the same notice at the next attempt. Other AI features are still available (on all devices).
Edit… also I'm seeing this on the picker:
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I'm not running the Beta - as for things to ask - someone ask the new search "should I buy more books in Logos?" - it would be cool if they put an 'easter egg' of some kind for something like that
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 16 & Android 14
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It sounds like you didn't join the recommended Faithlife group in order to get the testing license. See details here:
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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hm… I hadn't checked that topic and joined the group. restarted and resynced the app a couple of times, but can't do searches yet.
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The inability to save as a passage list is annoying, and you can't even drag passages from the search panel to add them manually. I hope this is a bug and not a deliberate omission.
@Justin Gatlin I'm happy to hear you're enjoying this search mode! We are actively working on bringing Save as a Passage List and Print/Export to smart Bible search, it just didn't quite make the v40 cutoff.
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Interestingly, the "qualification for priests" came up with Leviticus 21:16-23 first for me
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