defaulted as auto publish??

Kristin · 2025-04-13T22:44:56+00:00

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I created a sermon, and that is all I did, I didn't share it, or make it public, or whatever. I then went to YouTube and stumbled on a video of someone talking about the Sermon Builder and Sermon Manager, which I found interesting.

In light of the video I opened the Sermon Manager for the very first time and I was horrified to see that my sermon was set to "auto-publish"?????

So I deselect it and went to the public sermon section and searched for my sermon, and thank God it wasn't there since I caught it soon enough. (It said it would be published after today). So I have been left with multiple questions:

"Auto-publish" is exactly what it sounds like, and it is telling me that it had been auto set to make my sermon publicly available for others. Is this correct?
How could this be the default without it asking me if I want to publish my work?
Now that I have deselected it, I don't have to worry about it and it won't try to publish it again, correct?
Is there a way for auto-publish to be disabled? The likelihood of me wanting to publish my class notes is less than slim to none.
I literally don't understand why this had been set to be published. My notes, for example, are not publicly available unless I actively share them, so why is it the reverse here where it is actively public unless I tell it not to be? Is there anything else in Logos which is auto-set to be public / published where I have to deselect it??
Is there anything in general settings I can click to disable making things public???
It appears that if I had not happened to watch that YouTube video, and thus never would have opened Sermon Manager, Logos would have just started to auto-publish my sermons without me knowing it, then next week or next year I would have seen all my sermons in the public sermon section and would have fainted. Or did opening Sermon Manager prompt a little monster to be unleashed and start publishing my work, and if I hadn't opened it, the monster wouldn't have been disrupted?

I just truly can't have my class work published without my direct consent, and having it set to auto-publish without me knowing it is obviously super concerning.

I appreciate any thoughts or clarification anyone has about this.

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DMB

I'd be interested in seeing the answer. I remember the issue being a big issue but not what Faithlife's response was.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Acommunity.logos.com+auto-publish+sermons&t=osx&ia=web

Kristin

Hi @DMB ,

Thanks for the link. I see people have complained about this since version 7, and it is still not fixed??? That is a huge issue to not have been fixed within 24 hours of people first mentioning this. I know I am not the only person who is creating sermons and lectures which need to remain with restricted access. So ya, like you, I am extremely interested to hear Logos' response.

MJ. Smith

Logos has in effect responded. It is working as designed. My suspicion (not based on experience) this may be for easy integration with Proclaim.

Kristin

@MJ. Smith, I would hope that it is not "as designed" for Logos to be so careless with people's personal work. Further, as this Logos employee explains, the reason why my sermon said "Idea" is because the system understands that it is not finished, not ready, not intended to be preached at this time. Yet despite the system realizing that the sermon is NOT READY for an audience, the software auto-publishes it. That is surprising, and as mentioned, inconsistent with the typical settings. Additionally, as @DMB mentioned, customers are not happy about this default. So I hope Logos will be able to address the questions I raised above.

David Burnet

I don't want to use such capabilities in Logos as preparing a sermon if I'm in danger of it being published without my knowledge or consent.

I'm fairly new to Logos; and it's a shame I can't trust an important capability such as this one and have to avoid even using it.

And this is Logos working as it should? I don't know how to describe how I feel about this as it will take more time and effort to figure out how to say this well in a considerate manner. I will say that I find this shocking, and I am saddened that Logos would choose to do this to it's users. So shocking that I think this must not be true. There must be a misunderstanding somewhere…

I look forward to learning more that is accurate and true.

Kristin

Hi @David Burnet,

I agree 100%, and to be honest, after seeing that guy in the video explain how "idea" means that the sermon isn't ready, it frankly seems like a bug that it is set to auto-publish. I hope Logos will address this issue (and all of my points above) soon, as users need to feel assured that Logos would not publish anything without their explicit consent.

Justin Gatlin

If you uncheck it, all new sermon documents will be off by default. At least at one point, there was an email notice about one of your sermons being published. I do agree it is a mistake for them to have you opt out instead of opt in. My notes are usually more or less useless to anyone with the good fortune to not live in my brain.

Kristin

Hi @Justin Gatlin,

Thank you so much!! Given what you wrote, I created a new test sermon, then I went to the sermon manager and it was not set to auto-publish! :) Thank you for clarifying this, and I am truly relieved!

Hopefully Logos will make this change to set it to be off by default, in part for common sense reasons, but also in part since it is more inline with the other default settings, such as notes being private unless actively shared, or passage lists are private unless actively shared, etc.

Additionally, the default to auto-publish very understandably makes people who are new nervous, as it becomes unclear what else is auto-set to be published without consent.

Speaking of, hopefully nothing, but are you aware of any other settings or feature or anything I need to be checking regarding privacy? Discovering that both my actual sermon and my "test" sermon were both set to be published really spooked me.

Thank you again for your help!

Justin Gatlin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1366261#Comment_1366261

No, I think sermons really are the only outlier now. You should be set from here.

Kristin

Hi @Justin Gatlin,

Ok, great. Thank you for clarifying this. :)