Bug, sort of: incorrect clipping added
While reading the ACCS Hebrews edition, I highlighted a text and clicked on "add clipping" in the open pane of the proper clipping file. Instead of adding my highlighted text, it added a clip from Josephus, one that I had added about 4 clippings prior. Here are some relevant points:
- the open resource (ACCS Hebrews) was in a floating window, kept on top through "deskpins" application
- I had made 3 correct clippings prior to this error, from the ACCS, by right clicking and selecting the proper Clipping file.
- This clip was attempted by clicking on "add clipping" in the clipping file (which was in the "main" L4 docked panels. (it wasn't a floting panel, iow)
- Once I right-clicked and selected "add ..." from the ACCS resource itself, the proper clipping then appeared.
- If I just select "add clipping" again, i get the same josephus (wrong) clip.
I just realized that it seems to be tied to desk pins. Josephus was anchored on the Main logos panel set (whatever we should call it) and that text--i just noticed--was still highlighted. (concurrently with the highlighted portion in the resource I was reading (ACCS) in the floating panel). Once i "unpinned" the panel, and still having both resources showing a highlight, I clicked "add clipping" (which is docked on the main Logos panel) and my desired "ACCS" clipping from the floating window was added.
Obviously the key problem is desk pins, however, it is still odd behavior to me. I don't know if this is something Logos would fix--or could fix. Can anyone with deskpins reproduce this and have any insight?
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bump.
Heyy, great sleuthing, Dan. Wonder if others can corroborate your finding?
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Brilliant sleuthing ... unfortunately my copy has pages and a spine so I can't verify[:(]
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Dan DeVilder said:
bump.
Heyy, great sleuthing, Dan. Wonder if others can corroborate your finding?
I don't use Deskpins, but I believe you[:D]
Dave
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MJ. Smith said:
Brilliant sleuthing ... unfortunately my copy has pages and a spine so I can't verify
ruh roh, raggy! But if you have deskpins, can you experiment with other resources to see if you can replicate the scenario? Pretty please?
HOOTEN: JUST GET DESKPINS, ALREADY!!! I rely on you for all the techno stuff here, anyway!! [:)]
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Hi Dan
I thought Deskpins could be useful so installed it!
I can reproduce your problem as stated using Deskpins. This was using different resources (in this case NIVAC on Matthew and WBC on Matthew) so I don't think the resources are the key here.
I could also reproduce the problem with no windows pinned but the floating one on a separate monitor.
The resource which had the clip taken from it seemed to be the one which last had focus.
I then discounted the extra monitor by moving all of my logos windows (the "docked" one and the floating one to the same monitor) and the problem persisted.
It's not totally and consistently reproducible but it does seem to be tied to the window which last had focus - this is probably more noticeable with the use of something like Deskpins.
Hope this helps
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
I thought Deskpins could be useful so installed it!
I love that little tool! And I found out about it on these forums!
Graham Criddle said:it does seem to be tied to the window which last had focus -
I am thinking about this . . . to clarify for others, when you say "window" you don't mean "pane." That may be true, what you say. By clicking on "add clipping" on a clipping file that is open in a window with my "old/not desired resource that is still highlighted", I activate that very window, even though I had been reading in a resource in another pane within a different window, just prior. Because they are two different windows, I can have two different sets of highlighted text. SO, as it stands now (and probably forever--i doubt this is something Logos would/could fix), either unhighlight my old text, or I will just have to right click on my newly highlighted text.
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I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:
to clarify for others, when you say "window" you don't mean "pane."
Dan
Actually I got slightly varying results between using selecting a window and selecting a pane within a window. Neither one seemed to behave totally consistently!
Graham
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Graham Criddle said:
Actually I got slightly varying results between using selecting a window and selecting a pane within a window. Neither one seemed to behave totally consistently!
Well, this had better get straightened out, or I am going back to Libronix 2.1!!!!!! [:P]
Actually, things like this bug me a little, but I really don't know what to do with it, other than live with it. Any other of you techno-files have ideas?
DanI like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:
Actually, things like this bug me a little, but I really don't know what to do with it, other than live with it. Any other of you techno-files have ideas?
If you know you're going to be going through a resource looking for clippings to add, you might need to find an alternative way to keep it readily in front of you besides using Deskpins (awesome little app though it is, I agree). Three possible workarounds I'd suggest:
(1) Dock the resource as a tab in the right side of your layout while the Clippings pane is on the left side.
(2) Keep it as a floating window but Alt+Tab back and forth between it and the Logos main layout. It will still maintain its status as the most recently activated resource pane in that case, and then "Add Clipping" from the Clippings file will work.
(3) Get a second monitor and have more screen real estate so you can have floating windows up alongside your main Logos layout and not have to toggle back and forth between them as in #2 above.
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Rosie Perera said:
(3) Get a second monitor and have more screen real estate so you can have floating windows up alongside your main Logos layout and not have to toggle back and forth between them as in #2 above.
Hi Rosie
As per my comments above it is possible for this problem to occur using dual monitors and without Deskpins.
Graham
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Dan DeVilder said:
This clip was attempted by clicking on "add clipping" in the clipping file (which was in the "main" L4 docked panels.
I don't have Deskpins, so I tried this as Graham suggested with the ACCS in a floating window on 2nd monitor and Clipping doc docked on main screen in primary monitor. This worked for me because I first selected the text for the clipping in the ACCS, and then clicked on 'Add clipping' in the document. The selected text was automatically inserted into the new clipping. That appears to be the way it is designed, and is why your still highlighted Josephus text was inserted.
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