Can someone help me find some texts?
I need help trying to get to the pseudepigrapha, specifically text of 1Enoch. I have tried just doing a search, as well as the Factbook, but I can only find books talking about it. I am sure I have it somewhere in one of my resources, but I can't figure out how to find it. I need 1Enoch 6 if it matters. I also need Reuben 5, and I can't find either.
Thank you for any help anyone can provide.
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milestone:pseudepigrapha:"Testament of Reuben"
pseudepigrapha, not bible
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As Enoch is treated as a Biblical reference as search for milestone:bible:"Enoch 1:1" should find you all the copies of the text you have in your library. milestone:pseudepigrapha:"1 Enoch 1.1"works equally well. Usually I would start at Brannan, Rick. Old Testament Pseudepigrapha: A Guide. Bellingham, WA: Faithlife, 2022. Which will usually provide a direct link:
The Testament of Reuben — A pseudepigraphal text in which Reuben recounts his life's journey with focus on his sins and his strengths.
Alternate Title: The Testament of Reuben, the First-Born Son of Jacob and Leah
Category: Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
Type: Testament
Factbook: The Testament of Reuben
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“The Testament of Reuben, the first-born son of Jacob and Leah” — Robert Henry Charles, ed., Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913), 296.
“The Testament of Reuben, the First-Born Son of Jacob and Leah” — Robert Henry Charles, ed., Commentary on the Pseudepigrapha of the Old Testament (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1913), 296.
“Testament of Reuben, the Firstborn Son of Jacob and Leah” — James H. Charlesworth, The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha (New York; London: Yale University Press, 1983), 782.
“The Testament of Reuben” — James L. Kuge, “Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs,” in Outside the Bible: Ancient Jewish Writings Related to Scripture: Translation, ed. Louis H. Feldman, James L. Kugel, and Lawrence H. Schiffman (Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society, 2013), 1705–1715.
“Testament of Reuben” — Ken Penner and Michael S. Heiser, “Old Testament Greek Pseudepigrapha with Morphology” (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2008).
Rick Brannan, Old Testament Pseudepigrapha: A Guide (Bellingham, WA: Faithlife, 2022).
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I should have mentioned that I maintain a collection of all my paraBiblical texts which I search as my last resort.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Hi @MJ. Smith,
Thank you for your help, and I was able to find Enoch that way. Once I was in that resource, I was able to find Reuben also. Even though I found it, I tried searching for that also just to know how, but I can't find that as a milestone the same way. Can you see what I am doing wrong?
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milestone:pseudepigrapha:"Testament of Reuben"
pseudepigrapha, not bible
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pseudepigrapha, not bible
haha :) Ya, that fixed the problem. :) Thank you.
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You don't say whether you want 'the text' or a translation. Chances are, you have Swete (Codex Panopolitanus).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Well, there went yet another comment down the drain … clicked on Post Comment and erased the comment.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Codex Panopolitanus (Swete).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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You don't say whether you want 'the text' or a translation. Chances are, you have Swete (Codex Panopolitanus).
Hi @DMB,
Ya, I actually didn't care, I just needed to find the reference in any text since it is just regarding my note import. If I was reading it though, I likely also wouldn't care since I know once I had any text with the reference I could easily find the parallel. So I just did because of this post, but I'm not sure if the Greek I was reading was Swete or not. I tried to look at the info in light of your comment, but I couldn't learn anything of it since it was in parallel. I then shut the info box which closed the tab. :/ Well, I need to take a break anyway, so I will continue tomorrow. This note import is taking a super long time, but I am so grateful for their anchor system. That is truly helpful.
Well, there went yet another comment down the drain … clicked on Post Comment and erased the comment.
That's so strange how that keeps happening to you. Even once when I clicked "discard copy," a little box came up asking me if I really wanted to. So given that, I am kind of surprised it is deleting your drafts instead of posting them.
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You can try this, then look through what shows up. Using the search field in the filter bar is often a good way to find something that may be buried in a category you don't expect.
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Try this:
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Try find them on Amazon/kindle unlimited. Book of Enoch has numerous translations no longer in copyright which means you can find it online for free.
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This here?
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You can try this, then look through what shows up. Using the search field in the filter bar is often a good way to find something that may be buried in a category you don't expect.
Hi @Francis,
Last night I was doing searches like that and couldn't find either Enoch or Reuben, but then I eventually did with the pseudepigrapha, and then the pseudepigrapha resource had both Enoch and Reuben. Today I am re-doing the searches, and Enoch isn't a problem, but I seem to be getting inconsistent results with Reuben. If I do a general "search" it comes up, but if I search for it in the Library it does not.
Further, I can add Enoch as an anchor EITHER by going to the text and adding it, OR by going to another text and doing the "add anchor" and I can just add Enoch and it is not a problem. However, Reuben can ONLY be found if I start with Reuben as the text and then add Enoch as another anchor. Do you know how to add Reuben as an anchor if you are starting somewhere else and just adding it as another anchor?
Try find them on Amazon/kindle unlimited. Book of Enoch has numerous translations no longer in copyright which means you can find it online for free.
Hi @Y.S,
Thanks for the idea, and you are correct that a lot of these types of resources are able to be found online, and I have also used that type of stuff. However, for the specific type of work I do, in both Accordance and Logos, it has just been too much of an advantage to have these texts in the software itself. An example is what I mentioned above, how I am adding some of these texts as anchors in my notes. I appreciate the idea though.
This here?
Thank you very much. :) I really love how the forum lets people add layouts which I can open in Logos, that is super helpful. Also ya, that is the resource where I found both Enoch and Reuben, and why I don't believe the Library when it says I don't own a text of Reuben. Thank you for your help.
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I cannot add it by typing in the reference but there are two workarounds:
- Create a note with the Testament of Reuben opened at the desired reference and create the note "from" it like this:
2. Add another anchor like this:
You can also find other books that have your reference by looking up parallel books:
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Hi @Francis,
Thank you for the screenshots, and that is interesting that you can't type it as an anchor either. I had thought I was doing something wrong, but I am almost thinking it is a bug now. In any case, adding it to notes like that works fine for the most part. The issue had been that I had a note with a bunch of anchors and I needed to add Reuben to that note, but I couldn't add it.
So I wound up needing to create a new note with Reuben like your screenshots and then re-add all the other anchors and delete the first note.
If there is a better way to do it, please let me know, but that is the current solution I know regarding Reuben's anchor not being able to be typed like other anchors.
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Yes, there is a better way and this is what I tried to show with the second screenshot ("2. Add another anchor like this"). Open the resource at the reference you wish to add as anchor to a pre-existing note. Then, use the "Active Reference" option in the Add Anchor dialog.
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