I am sure this has been asked before, but I am unable to find a thread...
My Dell has a small partition for C: and a much larger one for
What steps should I take to move my stuff to so that I can reclaim lost space on C:?
Welcome to the forums.
You can't move the program, you have to reinstall it and do a custom installation on your drive. Fortunately there's some fast(er) ways to do so.
Its unsupported by Logos, but you can move your books to D and keep programs on C: you have to "tweak" the system though
It was in the wiki, but cant find the link..
Start Logos4 should not notice any difference
If you're considering moving Logos to a different drive, I would suggest getting an SSD drive to install and moving Logos to that. I haven't done it yet, but from what I've seen of people's benchmarks who have SSD drives, they are much faster than regular HDs and the performance improvement with Logos is remarkable.
Thank you all!!
Please note that Dominic's suggestion will work only in Vista/Windows 7
I followed Dominic's instructions and it worked perfectly! (Windows 7)
Took only 15 minutes moving resources and then creating the junction!
Thanks for the feedback, Barry.
Can you do this with a thumbdrive?
I am wanting to see if I can speed my up. It is so slow (old complaint I know). So I am thinking of getting a 16GB flash drive dedicated to Logos and put the resource files on that and direct the path to it if this will work. I assume that would make it a little faster. (Or not?)
The ability to have multiple resources paths in Logos 3 was a nice option.
Thanks for any help.
If you could do that, I still would not. Flash drives are prone to frequent corruption and it will give you more fits!
I assume that would make it a little faster. (Or not?)
SATA will get you up to 6GB/second while USB will max at about 625MB/s That's a huge differential.
2011/01/16
Hi,
I read the following in this thread:
Does anyone know if this is possible on an XP Pro SP3 system? I've been looking for a way to do this because my "C:" drive is small and I have a 1TB external USB drive that I would like to move my Resources to. I realize that it may be slower being a USB drive, but I can't afford the "real estate" of the resources on my "C" drive and I have lots of room (for now [;)] [:D] ) on my external drive.
Thanks, David
Both your system drive and the external drive have to be NTFS formatted as opposed to FAT32 which even Win XP Pro could be installed on. You can convert both to NTFS if needed and then use junction.exe (Google for it).
Hi Dave,
Thank you so much for your reply. I knew I could count on you!!! [;)]
My "C" drive is partitioned into a System drive ("C" = NTFS) and a "Recovery" drive ("D" - FAT32), and my Logos 4 Resources are on my "C" (NTFS) drive. My external 1TB drive is also NTFS - so it looks like I'm good to go as soon as I get "Junction.exe".
THANKS!
David
Kevin's link above worked like a charm for me...up and running inside 10 minutes!
Sean
Those unfamiliar or uncomfortable with the command prompt may wish to try this little utility, which presents you with a convenient graphical user interface for creating junction links. Use at own risk according to directions. [:D]
2011/01/22
Hi Kevin,
You said:
The link brings you to "Quick Installation onto Multiple Computers" under the Wiki -> FAQs. The thing that I don't understand about the suggested procedures in Method 1 and Method 2 is that if you are to copy: ...\Logos4\Data this directory to the new computer - you are in fact, copying over ALL of your resources anyway!? Because the Resources are located at: ...\Logos4\Data\(Random)\ResourceManager\Resources
I thought the point was to have the program on the system disk and have the Resources located elsewhere - at least, that is what I hope to accomplish because of the small amount of disk space that I have on my system drive.
UNLESS - you are NOT supposed to copy all of the subdirectories in \Logos4\Data as well - is that the case?
I just got my "new" computer so I am in the midst of trying to get this option to work, and I already have my Resources copied to my external drive.
The link brings you to "Quick Installation onto Multiple Computers" under the Wiki -> FAQs. The thing that I don't understand about the suggested procedures in Method 1 and Method 2 is that if you are to copy: ...\Logos4\Data this directory to the new computer - you are in fact, copying over ALL of your resources anyway!? Because the Resources are located at: ...\Logos4\Data\(Random)\ResourceManager\Resources I thought the point was to have the program on the system disk and have the Resources located elsewhere - at least, that is what I hope to accomplish because of the small amount of disk space that I have on my system drive. UNLESS - you are NOT supposed to copy all of the subdirectories in \Logos4\Data as well - is that the case? I just got my "new" computer so I am in the midst of trying to get this option to work, and I already have my Resources copied to my external drive.
Yes, that method calls for all of the sub-folders to be copied.
The point of the quick installation was not for separating the program from its files, just to save download time and sometimes indexing (depending on method selected). The regular Logos 4 installation process puts everything in one folder. I don't see any real benefit from trying to separate things out, it's not like the exe takes up that much space.
Thank you so much for getting back to me so quickly on my question - I really appreciate it!
You replied:
Yes, that method calls for all of the sub-folders to be copied. The point of the quick installation was not for separating the program from its files, just to save download time and sometimes indexing (depending on method selected). The regular Logos 4 installation process puts everything in one folder. I don't see any real benefit from trying to separate things out, it's not like the exe takes up that much space.
I apologize for being dense - but - if this method is to actually "pick up" Logos 4 and move it to an external drive for example and run Logos 4 from there - then what will happen to future updated Resources? Won't they still go to the system drive? Unless that is the reason for making the "junction" so that Logos 4 "thinks" that the program and resources are still located on the system drive under the specific User's name? [Such as: C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Logos4\Data\(Random)\ResourceManager\Resources]
Also, should I maintain the same directory structure (as above) on my external drive?
I apologize for being dense - but - if this method is to actually "pick up" Logos 4 and move it to an external drive for example and run Logos 4 from there - then what will happen to future updated Resources? Won't they still go to the system drive? Unless that is the reason for making the "junction" so that Logos 4 "thinks" that the program and resources are still located on the system drive under the specific User's name? [Such as: C:\Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\Logos4\Data\(Random)\ResourceManager\Resources] Also, should I maintain the same directory structure (as above) on my external drive?
David, I think what is generating your confusion is that there are two different options being discussed here.
1 seems to be safer to me, I've used it with success. I've never tried #2 so I can't report on how well it works.
Ok, if your goal is to use an external drive you should probably use a junction point (#2). However, this will slow Logos down as an internal SATA connection is much faster than USB. I say this so you can keep as much of the Logos databases on the system drive as you can.
If you use the Quick Installation method (#1), yes, this picks up the whole files structure and puts it on another drive, any future updates will go there. If you install on your external drive there is no need to replicate the Documents and Settings\David\Local Settings\Application Data\ hierarchy. you can just place it in whatever folder you want when you run the installer.
Bluntly, if you are looking for saving space it's probably time to buy a bigger, faster internal hard drive. It will improve your performance (both Windows and Logos); external hard drives are best for back up and storing files you won't use very frequently, two categories I suspect that Logos doesn't fit into for you.
Again, thank you so much for your speedy response!
Kevin - that's fabulous advice! I just got my "new" old-computer (OptiPlex 745 - Core 2 Duo) so I've finally made it up a notch into the "multi - core" processor world and I can't wait to try Logos 4 on the "new" computer. And it was supposed to come with only an 80GB disk and I paid to have it upgraded to 160GB (same as I have right now on my P4) - but I should have kept that money and gone to NewEgg or TigerDirect and put it toward something a bit bigger! I'm hobbled by short-sighted thinking!
Anyway, you've made an excellent suggestion, because right now I basically only have the OS on the disk - I don't have any programs on it yet - so now is the perfect time to get a bigger disk! [;)]
Thanks again, so much!
So is there a performance advantage to having the program on C: drive and the Resourcces all on a second physical drive? Not a different partition on the same drive mind you but a completely different drive?
Just asking.
So is there a performance advantage to having the program on C: drive and the Resourcces all on a second physical drive? Not a different partition on the same drive mind you but a completely different drive? Just asking.
The Logos executable is probably loaded into memory when you launch the program so having it on a different drive wouldn't give you a performance boost.
That's what I figured Kevin but I wanted to double check other thoughts. Thank you for the response. [:)]
Blessings,
Bob
If I had an internal SSD drive I would (custom) install the program there! I always install L4 to another partition; mainly to keep my system image (backup) small. L4 and other large data files are backed up in the normal way.
I have tried DominicM's method posted 2010-10-22 above with Logos 6.4 in Win 8.1 on an Asus Transformer and put my Resources on a removable SD Card but Logos crashes on startup. Windows Explorer reads the junction correctly. Any suggestions?
Reposted under Logos 6 at https://community.logos.com/forums/t/114215.aspx
so that I can reclaim lost space on C:?
