simple question on perfect passive indicative.

Randall Mueller

.and I have no books in "MAX" and Gold to answer it. If I put my query on "ALL" I get locks. On "Books" i get nothing under "precise", but smart, I get scriptures only with an AI sample of :

"Unfortunately, none of these excerpts directly address the grammatical concept of “perfect passive indicative”. The passages are biblical texts from various books of the New Testament, but they do not provide a linguistic or grammatical explanation of this specific grammatical form. To get an accurate explanation of the perfect passive indicative, I would recommend consulting a Greek grammar textbook or linguistic resource specifically focused on biblical Greek grammar."
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I have lexicons, 6 - 7 learn greek books, etc. GOLD, and Max supscriptions. I just want a simple explanation of the above, or maybe another verb morph.. nothing like this???? What does that tell me about a verb???? Why isnt there something to explain it?

I kept adding to it and end up with
"The morphology of the Indicative Mood" under the book "

Faithlife Greek Grammar Ontology which list a a book and topic:
"perfect passive topic:"The Syntax of the Indicative Mood".. and one book showed up FINALLY:

"Glossary of Morpho-Syntactic Database Terminology Dr. Michael S. Heiser, Ph.D. Michael S. Heiser and Vincent M. Setterholm, Glossary of Morpho-Syntactic Database Terminology (Lexham Press, 2013; 2013)."…

now, if i can figure out how to search it. It looks to have a lot of answers. but seriously logos.. or someone help me out.. am I missing a very obvious search

Michelle

Hi @Randall Mueller,

I can't answer how Logos search works & it is frustrating when something like this happens but I hope this helps (copied from the results in Smart Search : All of Logos Max, the highest library is a silver).

The perfect passive indicative is a grammatical construction that indicates a completed action in the past with a passive voice. In Latin, it is constructed by combining the fourth principal part (a participle) with different tenses of the verb “to be”, with the participle’s ending agreeing with the subject in gender and number[1]. In Greek, the perfect tense connotes a completed-stative action in present time, and is typically translated using the present perfect[2]. Interestingly, in Greek, the middle and passive voices have identical forms, with context determining the precise translation[2]. In English, the present perfect passive indicative follows the structure: subject + have/has + been + past participle form of the verb[3]. For example, in Greek, a verb like “to see” would be translated as “I have been seen” in the passive voice[2].

[1] Shelmerdine, Susan C. 2013. Introduction to Latin. Second Edition. Newburyport, MA: Focus Publishing.
[2] Harvey, John D. 2007. Greek Is Good Grief: Laying the Foundation for Exegesis and Exposition. Eugene, OR: Wipf & Stock.
[3] Miller, Phillip. 2012. English Grammar for Bible Language Students. Bryant, AR: Phillip Miller.