New Prepub Request - Logos for Linux
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Mark said:
Why not create a logos for Linux forum and see what develops from that? I think the answers to these questions is simply due to the lack of interest LOGOS has in the project
This is not a Logos site, it's a codeweavers site (the makers/originators/business side of WINE the Windows Compatability Layer for Linux.Mark said:while I know how to make a pledge, I dont know what I am making a pledge to
What you're pledging is to pay the WINE / Crossover developers once they've made it possible to run Logos on Linux via WINE/Crossover.
Since one is a site belonging to the Crossover people and not a Logos site it wouldn't work like that.Mark said:Why not put the project on the community price page with a link to this original website? And ask for pledges there?
Contrary to your experience IMHO it is due to the lack of viability of the project. It takes major cash to develop a platform and no matter what numbers you think Linux has in installed desktop's it's not big enough to support a linux port (yet).Mark said:Why not create a logos for Linux forum and see what develops from that? I think the answers to these questions is simply due to the lack of interest LOGOS has in the project
They do, sort of. First there is biblia.com which has that capacity and then there's the freebies on the site all linked here:Mark said:Why not create a FREE BASIC PACKAGE consisting of a few Bibles, a few resources....that can be access simply by creating a free account? Do you not think it wont bring in sales?
Want Libronix for FREE? | http://www.stilltruth.com/2006/want_libronix_free
And here: http://wiki.logos.com/Free_Logos_Books
Mark said:A pledge? I have already spent too much on Logos. What does a pledge mean?
Bob's quoted quote above states it pretty clearly: " a pledging system for getting Logos Bible Software running under CrossOver"
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Thomas Black said:
They do, sort of. First there is biblia.com which has that capacity and then there's the freebies on the site all linked here:
Want Libronix for FREE?
I am talking about making one available for LOGOS 4, putting it on their website so that it is easy to find...promoting the free package...it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that this would generate a lot more sales.
...but now we are getting off the main topic...
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Mark said:
... and one that is interested in a basic program that would run on Linux.
Initial challenge is porting Logos display engine to work on a different platform, a very non-trivial task. Initial Logos for Mac version took several years; lacked many capabilities of Libronix 3 (bit more than a book reader). For Logos 4, Mac and PC share .Net code base with Graphical User Interface (GUI) coded for each platform; current Beta nearing feature parity exposure on Mac. Wiki page has Logos 4 Mac release history => http://wiki.logos.com/Mac_Release_Notes_and_History
To port Logos 4 user interface for native Linux use, anticipating over 16 months of programming effort since Linux does not have Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) nor Apple's GUI. Linux also has many desktop managers: Gnome, KDE, Xfce, LXDE - notice Ubuntu has many distribution flavors.
Mono project has no plans to implement WPF => http://www.mono-project.com/WPF (lack of demand)
Microsoft forum discusses running WPF application on linux => http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/wpf/thread/0a4c924d-ef24-45a9-a552-6d58e5578e3a (refers to CodeWeavers for WINE - or change application code to use SilverLight and MoonLight)
On linux, can use Biblia web site to access Logos library => http://biblia.com/ or run free virtualization manager (with non-free Microsoft license) to use Logos 4.
Mark said:I wonder what would happen if I switched from a PC to an Apple...would I be required to purchase Logos for Apple?
No - a Logos user can freely use a variety of electronic devices: Mac, PC, iPhone, iPad, & Web to access personal library => http://www.logos.com/apps (Android under development)
Wiki page has Copy Logos 4 Resources to Mac OS X => http://wiki.logos.com/Quick_Installation_onto_Multiple_Macs#Copy_Logos_4_Resources_to_Mac_OS_X (have option to avoid redownloading all Logos resources)
By the way, Logos for Mac 1 initially had $ 59.95 cross grade cost (or included with package upgrade); now Logos for Mac 1.2.2 engine is free => http://www.logos.com/product/4504/logos-bible-software-for-mac-122
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Como antiguo usuario latinoamericano de Software Bíblico Logos, quiero expresar mi apoyo al requerimiento de una versión para linux.
Es muy importante difundir entre el pueblo cristiano latinoamericano, muchas veces limitado de recursos económicos, que linux representa sistema operativo sólido y gratuito, apartando con ello la tan difundida mala práctica de la piratería informática (que no es otra cosa que un robo) y que lamentablemente abunda en nuestros países.
Hace varios años que uso ubuntu como sistema operativo y estoy muy contento con ello. Sería impensable comprar físicamente todos esos libros que he ido adquiriendo a través del tiempo, tanto por precio como por espacio y disponibilidad. Lamentablemente para ejecutar mi Biblioteca Logos estoy obligado a utilizar una máquina virtual, que enlentece mi sistema, limitando su desempeño.
Existe la tecnología para migrar el software y creo que sería un gran aporte para latinoamérica, que si quiere ser bendecida debe acostumbrarse a usar solo software legal.
Un usuario de linux, se está ahorrando el precio del sistema operativo, el precio de suscripción a un antivirus, el precio del software de oficina, etc... y bien pudiera destinar esos recursos a enriquecer su Biblioteca Logos.
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Carlos,
Aquí está la traducción al Inglés de muchos aquí. Gracias por tus excelentes puntos. Yo también corro de Windows en la máquina virtual sólo para usar Logos.
Here is a translation into English for many here. Thanks for your excellent points. I too run Windows in virtual machine just to use Logos.
As a former Latin Logos Bible Software user , I want to express my support to the request for a version for linux .
It is very important to spread among the Latin American Christian people often limited financial resources , which is solid and free Linux operating system, thereby averting the widespread malpractice hacking (which is nothing but a robbery ) and unfortunately abounds in our countries.
For several years, use ubuntu operating system and am very happy with it. It would be unthinkable physically buy all those books that I have acquired over time , as both price and space availability . Sorry to run my Logos Library 'm forced to use a virtual machine, which slows my system , limiting their performance.
Technology exists to migrate the software and think it would be a great contribution to Latin America, if you want to be blessed must get used to using only legal software.
A user of linux, is saving the price of the operating system , the price of subscription to an antivirus , the price of office software, etc ... and well could allocate those resources to enrich your Logos Library .
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David J. Ring, Jr. said:
... and well could allocate those resources to enrich your Logos Library .
An excellent point. That is very likely the place I would spend all my savings.
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