Why is Amplified Bible missing from base packages?

I really enjoy the Amplified Bible, but for some reason it doesn't get much support. Why is this? None of the base packages (even Portfolio) include it. It seems strange to me that a "bible" program would be missing such a fantastic bible translation in even in its largest base package. Does anyone know why Logos made the decision to leave it out? Isn't it from the same people who produced the NASB? I can't see the publisher requesting special treatment for this translation.

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David Matthew

Maybe because Logos encourages a fairly scholarly approach to the study of the Scriptures.

The Amplified Bible can be misleading to the uninformed because it gives just about every possible nuance of a word or phrase whereas a word, in a particular context, is likely to mean only one of those things.

This version is, however, available to buy as a separate item - and I have it!

Edwin Bowden

I am not speaking for Logos, but I spent 20 years in Christian publishing.

Bible publishers told me that the Lockman Foundation (which owns the rights) is one of the more difficult copyright holders to deal with.

I have noticed several publishing oddities that seem to confirm this over the last 4 decades.

Dave Hooton

Maybe because Logos encourages a fairly scholarly approach to the study of the Scriptures.

Ahhh, yes - that's why The Message is included in the Bible Study library but not the Home library[;)]

I got the Amplified with the NAS Electronic Bible Library.

Matthew C Jones

I am not speaking for Logos, but I spent 20 years in Christian publishing.

Bible publishers told me that the Lockman Foundation (which owns the rights) is one of the more difficult copyright holders to deal with.

I have noticed several publishing oddities that seem to confirm this over the last 4 decades.

Your history and expertise are spot-on. But I won't say much more.

I got the Amplified with the NAS Electronic Bible Library.

I purchased the Amplified Bible from Logos individually before I bought the NAS Electronic Bible Library. So I have two, I guess. [:)]

Robert Pavich

The (Amplified/Explained/Elaborated) bible is not (was not, will not) be (included/part of the package/published) because of the (Publisher/copyright holder/owner) and their (practices/customs)

just thought I'd have some fun with this thread.

Josh

Maybe because Logos encourages a fairly scholarly approach to the study of the Scriptures.

The Amplified Bible can be misleading to the uninformed because it gives just about every possible nuance of a word or phrase whereas a word, in a particular context, is likely to mean only one of those things.

This version is, however, available to buy as a separate item - and I have it!

Logos is not only for the "uninformed". [:O] I can't see just any Joe Christian picking up the Scholar's base package. I guess it's a copyright thing. [:@]

Ronald Quick

The Amplified Bible can be misleading to the uninformed because it gives just about every possible nuance of a word or phrase whereas a word, in a particular context, is likely to mean only one of those things.

Does anyone have a good example of a misleading text? Thanks.

Robert Pavich

Does anyone have a good example of a misleading text?

I think what's being said is a valid criticism; that a person who believes (yes...they do exist) that you can just "pick the word that seems to suit you" is being done a disservice. Words have meaning, and context drives that meaning.

For example:

From Hebrews:

³He is the sole expression of the glory of God [the Light-being, the out-raying
or radiance of the divine], and He is the perfect imprint and very
image of [God's] nature, upholding and maintaining and guiding and
propelling the universe by His mighty word of power. When He had by
offering Himself accomplished our cleansing of sins and riddance of
guilt, He sat down at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high,

⁴[Taking
a place and rank by which] He Himself became as much superior to angels
as the glorious Name (title) which He has inherited is different from
and more excellent than theirs.

"The "light being"? Is that what the original author meant when he said "Theos?"

Here is another example:

¹PAUL, SILVANUS (Silas),
and Timothy, to the church (assembly) of the Thessalonians in God our
Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One):

²Grace
(unmerited favor) be to you and [heart] peace from God the Father and
the Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

Since when is εἰρήνη "heart"?

It's misleading in that people believe that you can just insert any one of the choices into the text...that's simply not true.

Jim VanSchoonhoven

All translations are misleading!!! Anyone saying the Amplified Bible is misleading had better be willing to admit that the translation they are using is misleading too! I have no idea why it is not in all packages, although it is would be considered a special use bible. You must understand how it was translated and what it's purpose is, but that is true of all translations. I am not sure but I think the publishers may have a copy of it to use on their website.

In Christ,

Jim VanSchoonhoven

Robert Pavich

Jim,

Slow down...lol...

The point is that the amplified (loudened/bullhorned/increased/verbosed) bible is that it gives you many choices of a word and many people think that you just "pick the one that fits"...and that's the difference between the Amp bible and a translation...that's the misleading part...not that the translators of the amp have made their choices....all translations make decisions...but that's the EXACT ELEMENT that's being discussed here...not translation choices....

DMB

Robert ... on your examples of the Amplified Bible text, keep in mind that brackets mean something added; NOT in the original greek/hebrew. I got the Amplified, just like I got the Message Bible for the same reason .... another 'take' on the original text. I think its often misleading to assume you can easily move from one language to another without loosing embedded meaning. This is obvious if you're familiar with hebrew, and then read the LXX. I'm always a bit suspicious when someone worries that 'people might read the Bible wrong'. As if there's someone who has the 'right' version.

Matthew C Jones

Logos is not only for the "uninformed". I can't see just any Joe Christian picking up the Scholar's base package.

Yep, partial knowledge can be very misleading. Some people don't understand electricity. Double-distilled water does not conduct electricity. But if someone acts on this partial knowledge without knowing "regular" water conducts electricity well, that person can be electrocuted,

I do not think the answer is to protect "Joe Christian" from having the tools to dig deeper, but to give the non-scholar all the tools possible and teach him how to properly handle those tools. A few weeks back Ted Hans quoted from the D.A. Carson book, Exegetical Fallacies. That post led me to purchase another Logos resource, The Hermeneutical Spiral, that I am enjoying very much.

You must understand how it was translated and what it's purpose is, but that is true of all translations.

If a user understands the proper use of The Amplified Bible, it will benefit their studies. It is NOT a translation in the true sense.

Jonathan Burke

"The "light being"? Is that what the original author meant when he said "Theos?"

To be fair, I think that's what the Amplified thinks the author meant by the glory of theos. But believe me, I'm as unimpressed with the Amplified as anyone else who knows how translation should work.

Robert Inguanzo

I think you can get it but you have to pay extra.