Last we heard, there was some renegotiation going on with Yale University Press on some excellent resources. Is there any update on when these might be coming out?
Thanks!
Good that you raised this Dominick.
Any info on the Anchor Yale will be helpful http://www.logos.com/product/5734/anchor-yale-bible-reference-library So Logos any more update?
Ted
"We are hoping to have the signature from Yale Press soon and be able to release the collection; all our work is done and we are waiting on their “go ahead”."
My sales rep a week ago.
We are still working out the details with Yale University Press. We'll set a ship date as soon as we are able, and we're very sorry for the ongoing delay.
Thanks Kent. I will make do with my paper copy for now.
With the impending release (02-01-2011) of the Zondervan Bible Reference Bundle 2 (47 vols.) it would be a welcome "non-development" for this delay to continue on-going until the 1st of March. Anchor Yale Bible Reference Library (29 vols.) is my preferred choice if I had to decide between one or the other. Please don't make us decide! Some of us will purchase both, if possible!
All that said, is there any "heads up" warning that it is about to ship?
It would be helpful to have a generous advance notice of the release date of the Anchor Yale Library, so prospective purchasers can make sure that funds are available. I've been looking forward to this for so long, and I'd hate to miss out on the pre-pub price due to a lack of funds.
~BUMP~
I am still wondering about the Anchor Yale Bible Reference Library.
Do we need to start praying that God replace the "new guy" at Yale who decided to re-visit the contract?
It wouldn't have anything to do with The Harvard Classics & Fiction shipping would it? [:D]
The last I heard was about five weeks ago, when the guy in charge was supposed to "feel very confident" that it would be released "soon". Considering that it's been "soon" for half a year now, I'm not holding my breath...
Don't get me going again on this . . .
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/31139/231185.aspx#231185
Sorry Brad to maybe ruin your weekend ... but you did say you did commercial contract work for many years. And I'm guessing you're well aware a contract is a point in time; it is enforceable but every company knows there's a 'tomorrow'. If you're in the driver's seat, enforcement might make sense; if you're not, then you have to work it out. Our company quite often walked away from contracts where we were in the driver's seat, because it involved a sole supplier that we couldn't afford to loose (the supplier going out of business). In the case of Yale, it's hard to say, since Yale's a big-boy and can play hard-ball on follow-up contracts. Alternatively, Logos likely tries to pad the pricing to allow subsequent markdowns/sales. I'd suspect it's worth it to Logos to get it right, even with a significant delay.
Denise:
I have seen that happen. It would be the great exception to "normal" business practices. I'm sorry you had that experience. Most businesses operate in an honest, ethical, and legal manner, even if the contract they entered into "yesterday" doesn't suit them "today."
Most businesses operate in an honest, ethical, and legal manner, even if the contract they entered into "yesterday" doesn't suit them "today."
Yes, it is the Christian thing to do (fulfilling your word, even to your own hurt.) But nobody is accusing Yale University Press of being "Christian."
When GM built the OKC assembly plant in 1977 they were promised by the State exemption from property taxes. After GM had investing 400 million dollars building the mega-plant the State broke their promise and assessed back taxes of $8 million and ongoing taxation. General Motors responded with superior lawyering. They "sold" the plant to an individual and leased it back from him. When it came time to close the plant the M walked away, "individual" goes bankrupt, and local banks take the hit. The plant was eventually leased by the government to Tinker Air Force Base for $1 a year. GM's lawyers are still laughing.
In the legal world it rarely matters if it is ethical or not. It all boils down to who has better lawyers. (And a collective bargaining contract is only as good as the present economy.)
I believe Logos is trying to have a long-term and helpful relationship with Yale-Anchor and they must believe it is in their long-term interest not to get 'legal' at this point. I suspect there is more that Logos might like to produce in the future from the Yale catalog and does not want to act in a way to jeopardize this future possibility. Say what you may, it seems to be good business practice to look at the long-term relationship rather than push for one's 'rights' in the short term. Just my non-legal opinion.
Logos might like to produce in the future from the Yale catalog and does not want to act in a way to jeopardize this future possibility.
I agree. I would be very dismayed to hear of a "falling out" between Logos and Yale UP. I much prefer to work out differences than to litigate. We don't even know if there are any points of contention between the two. The "new guy" at Yale may even be considering some great expansion of the publishing relationship !?
There are many possibilities but only one reality. We could guess all week long and not get it right. I was just wondering if there was any light at the end of the tunnel.....
We could guess all week long and not get it right.
Which is all we're doing.
I was just wondering if there was any light at the end of the tunnel.....
This has been a long wait for what many were delighted to have offered in the first place. We all hope that thinsg work out extremely well.
One thing we know is that publishers have changed their way of doing business with Logos. Take Baker for example. It appears they no longer will bundle together any future books, but issue them individually, and at a set price, with no pre-pub discount.
Logos is totally dependent on book publishers for content. Otherwise, all our resources would be from the Public Domain. So I hope everything works out in everyone's favor.
And may Logos get Brad as their contract attorney [8-|]
The "new guy" at Yale may even be considering some great expansion of the publishing relationship !?
In that case it seems to me he's approaching it in a way that is likely to be counterproductive...
I'd vote for a little sympathy for anyone in the book business these days. Anyone new to the helm of a publishing house at this point must have a very difficult task ahead of him/her. We can pray that the folks at Anchor-Yale like what they see at Logos and will see it being a perfect fit as they move forward.
Bumping up again.
With the slew of e-mails I received today and yesterday announcing pre-pubs about to be processed, my hopes were once again dashed that Anchor Yale Reference Library wasn't one of them.
Isn't it time for an update from Logos on what's happening with this one?
With the slew of e-mails I received today and yesterday announcing pre-pubs about to be processed,
That slew of emails hit my mailbox too. It makes me lower my voice on the Anchor Yale Bible Reference Library.
I am still curious and would appreciate the longest lead time Logos can give me. [O]
Unfortunately that may not be possible. In the midst of negotiations it is never wise, and sometimes it is not legal, to reveal the way things are going.
When we sort the Pre-Pub list by ship date we see the AYBRL is "under development" a couple notches lower than the one June-shipper listed. I know it is not scientific but I like to think this means there is some progress on shipping it this summer.
