Program scaling for MAC?

Michael Hite

Does anyone know if Program Scaling (a Windows version feature) will eventually be added to the MAC version?

Kevin Becker

It was taken out of the Mac version during the Alpha because Apple designed the feature to only be used by developers. I'll hunt down the a statement by a developer.

EDIT: Here's one example: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/17966/135538.aspx#135538 there are others if you search the forum

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/224984#Comment_224984

I believe this is the latest promise: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/28263/209867.aspx#209867.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/225039#Comment_225039

Workaround is Mac OS X accessibility screen magnification option => http://www.apple.com/accessibility/macosx/vision.html

Keep Smiling [:)]

Michael Hite

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/225047#Comment_225047

" rel="nofollow">Keep Smiling 4 Jesus said:

Workaround is Mac OS X accessibility screen magnification option => http://www.apple.com/accessibility/macosx/vision.html

The OS X screen magnification option only lets me make everything bigger. Believe it or not, I was looking to make everything a bit smaller. Screen real estate is always at a premium with Logos on my laptop.

To Keep Smiling - Thanks for everything you do in these forums. You are always quick with an answer and very helpful. I appreciate what you do. I also note that you are in Denver? I am too. Maybe I can buy you a cup of coffee at some point. Thanks again for all the help.

David Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/225039#Comment_225039

fgh said:

I believe this is the latest promise: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/28263/209867.aspx#209867.

It should be noted that Tom was speaking of text size changes (the per-panel setting), not program scaling. Also, Tom's indication that the feature is "on the list" should not be construed as a promise—merely a plan. (I also don't want to give anyone the impression that we aren't planning it)

Michael Hite

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/225584#Comment_225584

David Mitchell said:

Tom's indication that the feature is "on the list" should not be construed as a promise—merely a plan. (I also don't want to give anyone the impression that we aren't planning it)

Very politically correct response

I understand what you are saying - just had to give you a hard time about it. Thanks for the info.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/225039#Comment_225039

fgh said:

I believe this is the latest promise: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/28263/209867.aspx#209867.

In that post Tom was hoping for Apple to have some bug fixed when 10.7 was released. It feels like it was now quite some time since that happened.[:D] I presume the bug wasn't fixed in the 10.7 release, and neither in 10.8? Do you have any update at all on this? It would be nice to have something slightly more modern to refer people to when they ask.

Martin Potter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/466917#Comment_466917

The original method mentioned in the referenced thread that was used to implement Program Scaling on Mac was officially deprecated in 10.7. With the introduction of Retina MacBook Pros, Apple changed all of the APIs that developers use when determining the scale of the display. These new APIs are designed to have developers query the scale of, and convert coordinates to, the backing store's (screen's) coordinate system, but do not allow for modification of that information.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468462#Comment_468462

Well, thanks for replying, but that was way above my head. Could you give me the "for dummies" version? [:)]

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468514#Comment_468514

fgh said:

Well, thanks for replying, but that was way above my head

You and me both. [:D]

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468572#Comment_468572

alabama24 said:

fgh said:

Well, thanks for replying, but that was way above my head

You and me both. 

OS X Snow Leopard (10.6) had an option for application program scaling.

OS X Lion (10.7) and newer only have Mac OS X accessibility screen magnification options => http://www.apple.com/accessibility/macosx/vision.html

OS X system wide scaling option is System Preferences - Display

Choosing a smaller resolution for scaled display effectively magnifies everything.

For Logos on Mac, wonder about some more size slider(s) ? (e.g. Home Page)

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David Mitchell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468514#Comment_468514

fgh said:

Well, thanks for replying, but that was way above my head. Could you give me the "for dummies" version? 

Windows has OS-level support for program scaling. OS X had buggy support for program scaling that has now been removed.

This is why the Windows app has program scaling and the Mac app does not.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/468848#Comment_468848

Thanks. So, if I understand you correctly, the only thing you can do right now is hope for Apple to reintroduce it? Any word if they're planning to do that?