Serving Kings, Transforming Churches - The Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.)

Community Pricing is a huge gift from Logos to its users, making classic works available for bargain prices. Some people (like me, at first) might take one look at the chart, containing all kinds of dots, arrows and numbers, and run a mile. But once you’ve taken the time to investigate what it all means, the idea becomes crystal clear: Customers decide what books Logos produce, and what price they’ll pay (If you're still confused, it's all explained here)!
One recent example would be the three-volume Edwin Hatch Collection. When enough people had placed bids to cover production costs the whole thing went for $8 (that’s under £5 for my fellow Pound Sterling friends). Right now it would cost you $39.95 on Pre-Pub. That’s a huge saving for anyone who got in early under Community Pricing!
Now, another massive saving is on its way: The Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.). It’s almost reached 60% on Community Pricing, and currently stands at $30 (£19); but as more people bid, that price will go down.
So who was Thomas Cranmer, you ask? Made Archbishop of Canterbury under Henry VIII, Cranmer (1489-1556) played a pivotal role in the separation of the Church of England from the Church of Rome (due largely to Henry VIII’s desire to divorce). During his time as Archbishop he partnered with Thomas Cromwell to produce an English translation of the Bible. He also wrote extensively about and against the doctrine of transubstantiation. All of this, and more, is chronicled in the The Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.), both in Cranmer's own writings and in the biographical works of others.
But he might be best known for producing The Book Common of Prayer. It was Cranmer's desire to see the worship of the Church of England transformed into "the tongue understanded of the people" (from Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church). Along the way, Cranmer began to adopt many of the ideas coming from the Reformation happening on the European continent, perhaps most clearly seen in his radical change of opinion with regard to the Eucharist. The impact of his life and work are still felt today, not least as millions still continue to use The Book Common of Prayer.
However, Cranmer didn't achieve all of this without getting burnt - literally. Under Queen Mary (a.k.a. Bloody Mary) Cranmer was tried under reinstated blasphemy laws and sentenced to death by burning at the stake. In desperation, Cranmer attempted to save his life by recanting his Protestant views and pledging allegiance to the Pope. Despite this the execution went ahead, but not before an emboldened Cranmer made his final speech, "in which he declared the pope 'Christ’s enemy and antichrist' (from 131 Christians Everyone Should Know). The hand he had used to sign papers repudiating his denial of the Pope was the first thing thrust into the flames, as Cranmer repeatedly declared, "This hand hath offended."
Cranmer's legacy is summed up in the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church:
“To Cranmer the C of E owes not only the masterly English style of the liturgy in use almost universally for some 400 years, but also its essentially scriptural spirituality for which he was largely responsible.”
So, The Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) is a worthy edition to your Logos Library, and all at the price of $30 or under. Not only do you invest in your knowledge of the Reformation in England, but you also gain insight into the mind and heart of a great (though, like all of us, not faultless) disciple of Jesus Christ.
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This was done at the suggestion of Kevin Becker in another thread. Thanks Kevin.
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Great post, Richard! I'm already in, but I definitely hope this brings the Cranmer collection to the attention of more people.
Another way you could get the word out would be using Facebook. There's a Facebook page for Thomas Cranmer (http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Thomas-Cranmer/111951412154402) which 205 people Like. There's also one for The Book of Common Prayer (http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/The-Book-of-Common-Prayer/54370097052) which 8,207 people Like. The BCP one has a wall which you can post on. The Thomas Cranmer one doesn't but there's a "related posts" link and it seems any time someone mentions Thomas Cranmer in a post in a certain way it adds a link here. I'm not sure how to make it do that. I just added a post on my wall letting people know about the Thomas Cranmer collection after Liking the TC page, and I tried using the @ syntax, but that only proposed a list of my friends, not pages I'd like. If you can figure out how to make that work that would be a great way to reach TC fans!
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Richard,
I've sent a link to this page to Jayson Bradley who manages the Blog. I think this might make a good blog post.
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Rosie Perera said:
Great post, Richard! I'm already in, but I definitely hope this brings the Cranmer collection to the attention of more people.
Thanks Rosie. Me too! I'll follow up those Facebook leads (although technically I'm taking a hiatus from FB at the moment!).
Thomas Black said:Richard,
I've sent a link to this page to Jayson Bradley who manages the Blog. I think this might make a good blog post.
Thank you Thomas. I've done the same, at Kevin Becker's suggestion. Hopefully your support will make the difference!0 -
Rosie Perera said:
Great post, Richard! I'm already in, but I definitely hope this brings the Cranmer collection to the attention of more people.
Another way you could get the word out would be using Facebook. There's a Facebook page for Thomas Cranmer (http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Thomas-Cranmer/111951412154402) which 205 people Like. There's also one for The Book of Common Prayer (http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/The-Book-of-Common-Prayer/54370097052) which 8,207 people Like. The BCP one has a wall which you can post on. The Thomas Cranmer one doesn't but there's a "related posts" link and it seems any time someone mentions Thomas Cranmer in a post in a certain way it adds a link here. I'm not sure how to make it do that. I just added a post on my wall letting people know about the Thomas Cranmer collection after Liking the TC page, and I tried using the @ syntax, but that only proposed a list of my friends, not pages I'd like. If you can figure out how to make that work that would be a great way to reach TC fans!
I just posted on the Book of Common Prayer page, and Lo! and Behold! it automagically appeared in the related links section of the Thomas Cranmer page! Thanks for the heads up, Rosie.
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Richard Wardman said:
I just posted on the Book of Common Prayer page, and Lo! and Behold! it automagically appeared in the related links section of the Thomas Cranmer page! Thanks for the heads up, Rosie.
Great! Hope it makes a difference. Sorry to make you break your FB hiatus (a Lenten fast?), but it was for a good cause! :-)
EDIT: Alas, it doesn't appear that it will automagically show up in the related posts section except for any of your FB friends who happen to have "Liked" Thomas Cranmer. My own post on the BCP page did show up for me under "Related Posts by Friends":
But the general "Related Posts" link only showed these (not yours):
The good news is that the number of people who like Cranmer has gone up to 207. I suspect one of them is you. My "Like" of that page was counted in the 205 before, but there's someone else who has discovered that page because of our posting about it here or maybe one of your or my friends noticed us liking it.
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Rosie Perera said:
Alas, it doesn't appear that it will automagically show up in the related posts section except for any of your FB friends who happen to have "Liked" Thomas Cranmer. The good news is that the number of people who like Cranmer has gone up to 207. I suspect one of them is you. My "Like" of that page was counted in the 205 before, but there's someone else who has discovered that page because of our posting about it here or maybe one of your or my friends noticed us liking it.
Ho hum. It might help even if just a little.
Rosie Perera said:Sorry to make you break your FB hiatus (a Lenten fast?), but it was for a good cause! :-)
Sort of, but not an uber strict one. I'm considering giving up Lent for New Year though.
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Good job. However, please don't claim unequivocally that:
Richard Wardman said:as more people bid, that price will go down
There is absolutely no guarantee for that. It's possible, even likely, but if all the "more people" happen to bid considerably higher than the current peak, then the price will go up instead. The price will only go down if more people bid lower, to form a lower peak, or if many people bid between the resource has reached 100% and closing time.
Richard Wardman said:technically I'm taking a hiatus from FB at the moment!
Is that a good idea, when Logos is having this huge Facebook sale right now? [:P]
Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2
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fgh said:
Good job. However, please don't claim unequivocally that:
Richard Wardman said:as more people bid, that price will go down
There is absolutely no guarantee for that. It's possible, even likely, but if all the "more people" happen to bid considerably higher than the current peak, then the price will go up instead. The price will only go down if more people bid lower, to form a lower peak, or if many people bid between the resource has reached 100% and closing time.
Richard Wardman said:technically I'm taking a hiatus from FB at the moment!
Is that a good idea, when Logos is having this huge Facebook sale right now?
Hi fgh. Thanks for your replies. I guess that while there's no guarantee for the price going down, it is likely that once a product reaches or nears 100% more people will either bid or adjust their bids to the lower price, thus sending the price down a little. That said, it was an unequivocal (or unqualified) claim.
Regards Facebook - I haven't banished myself completely, but neither am I totally convinced that this is a HUGE sale!
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Richard Wardman said:
or adjust their bids to the lower price
Adjusting a bid downward while staying at or above the final price has no effect on the price. But yes, many people seem to jump on board when they see an item close to 100%
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:Richard Wardman said:
or adjust their bids to the lower price
Adjusting a bid downward while staying at or above the final price has no effect on the price. But yes, many people seem to jump on board when they see an item close to 100%
I guess my question is, how do we get to 100% QUICKER!!!
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"And now I come to the great thing, which so much troubleth my conscience, more than any thing that ever I did or said in my whole life, and that is the setting abroad of a writing contrary to the truth; which now here I renounce and refuse, as things written with my hand, contrary to the truth which I thought in my heart, and written for fear of death, and to save my life if it might be; and thatis., all such bill, and papers which I have written or signed with my hand since my degradation; wherein I have written many things untrue. And forasmuch as my hand offended writing contrary to my heart, my hand shall fast be punished there-for; for, may I come to the fire, it shall be first burned.
And as for the pope, I refuse him, as Christ’s enemy, and antichrist, with all his, false doctrine,
“And as for the sacrament, I believe as I have taught in my book against the bishop of Winchester, the which my book teacheth so true a doctrine of the sacrament, that it shall stand at the last day before the judgment of God, where the papistical doctrine contrary thereto shall be ashamed to show her face.”
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Oh C'mon Richard, compared to Barnes it's a rocket!
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Richard Wardman said:
Almost at 60%. This is so slooooww!!!
Observation: sorting community pricing by progress shows Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) at # 17, should become # 14 shortly after Noon Pacific time tomorrow.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Richard Wardman said:
Almost at 60%. This is so slooooww!!!
Observation: sorting community pricing by progress shows Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) at # 17, should become # 14 shortly after Noon Pacific time tomorrow.
Keep Smiling
I'm smiling right now [:D] Following the Logos blog post the
Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) is now at #5 in community pricing by progress!0 -
Richard Wardman said:Richard Wardman said:
Almost at 60%. This is so slooooww!!!
Observation: sorting community pricing by progress shows Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) at # 17, should become # 14 shortly after Noon Pacific time tomorrow.
Keep Smiling
I'm smiling right now
Following the Logos blog post the
Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) is now at #5 in community pricing by progress!Awesome! See how effective that blog is?
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Thomas Cranmer collection is now number 2!!!! Let's push this over the top THIS weekend and get it into production! This collection would be a steal at $30 or less!!! Let's go gang!! [Y][Y][H]
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Brian Leathers said:
Thomas Cranmer collection is now number 2!!!! Let's push this over the top THIS weekend and get it into production! This collection would be a steal at $30 or less!!! Let's go gang!!
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YES YES YES YES YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS!!
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Now is the time to push the Thomas Cranmer Collection over the top and get it into production. Calling all hands into the Community Pricing domain!!!! Let's get this one for $30 or $25!!!!!!!!! This is the weekend!!! Let's make it happen!!!![Y][Y][Y][Y][H]
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Lovin' the Cranmer craze! [Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
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Richard Wardman said:
Lovin' the Cranmer craze!
Today is a great day for the Cranmer craze, since Westminster Abbey was so much in the news with the Royal Wedding. It was 478 years ago, on June 1, that Anne Boleyn was crowned Queen of England at Westminster Abbey by Thomas Cranmer in his role as the Archbishop of Canterbury.
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Impressed by the progress made in the last week - really does show the power of the Logos Blog, combined with the online forums. Together we can change the world!!!!
Or, we can get the Cranmer Collection into Pre-Pub/Production by the end of next week! [:P]
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Today is the DAY we begin our push to get this superb collection on its way to production and get it into our Logos libraries for $30 or LESS!!! Let's get it done!!!!![Y][Y][H]
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This feels like the Top 40 Chart countdown, but...
The Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) is now the official number one Community Pricing title by progress!! [:D]
Surely we can this over 100% by next Friday!? Please folks, I'd really love to have this collection as soon as possible - it will be so helpful for my dissertation.
Place your bids!
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Richard Wardman said:
Surely we can this over 100% by next Friday!? Please folks, I'd really love to have this collection as soon as possible - it will be so helpful for my dissertation.
Not to dampen your enthusiasm, but even if it goes over the top from CP into Pre-pub within a week or so, it will still sit in pre-pub for a while as they do the development work for it. A 10 volume collection is going to take some time to do.
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Richard Wardman said:
Surely we can this over 100% by next Friday!? Please folks, I'd really love to have this collection as soon as possible - it will be so helpful for my dissertation.
Place your bids!
If current bids were raised to $ 35, closing would be on a Friday (sooner). If enough people bid $ 35, then final closing cost could be $ 30 or less.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Rosie Perera said:Richard Wardman said:
Surely we can this over 100% by next Friday!? Please folks, I'd really love to have this collection as soon as possible - it will be so helpful for my dissertation.
Not to dampen your enthusiasm, but even if it goes over the top from CP into Pre-pub within a week or so, it will still sit in pre-pub for a while as they do the development work for it. A 10 volume collection is going to take some time to do.
All the more reason to get it into Pre-Pub sooner rather than later! [:P]
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Richard Wardman said:
Surely we can this over 100% by next Friday!? Please folks, I'd really love to have this collection as soon as possible - it will be so helpful for my dissertation.
Place your bids!
If current bids were raised to $ 35, closing would be on a Friday (sooner). If enough people bid $ 35, then final closing cost could be $ 30 or less.
Keep Smiling
I'm game. Let's do it! [:P]
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I'm in at $40!
*smile*
Phil. 4.7
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Anyone left who hasn't bid for the Cranmer collection? What are you waiting for!? If more folks bid we could have this baby in Pre-Pub by the end of the week! [:D]
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NO FAIR!!!!!! Five other community pricing titles are closing next week, BUT NOT THE THOMAS CRANMER COLLECTION!? [:@] What gives people?! [:P]
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Richard Wardman said:
NO FAIR!!!!!! Five other community pricing titles are closing next week, BUT NOT THE THOMAS CRANMER COLLECTION!?
What gives people?!
In a friendly living room conversation, reaction bit surprising; would like to encourage more people to bid on top 7 community pricing titles.
Personally wonder how soon 5 community pricing titles will ship after closing next week. Likewise noted another resource Works of Robert J. Breckinridge (10 vols.) whose progress jumped past Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.)
At one time, remember Barnes' Notes on the Old and New Testaments (26 vols.) being the oldest community pricing title, now estimated to ship tomorrow.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Please forgive my earlier outburst. Patience is not a strong point of mine!
Anyhow, I'm hoping that the newly announced Book of Common Prayer Collection (17 vols.) will provoke a little more interest in Cranmer! [:P]
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So what does Cranmer have to say about patience? Particularly in relation to Cranmer and Eucharistic Doctrine?Richard Wardman said:Patience is not a strong point of mine!
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Thomas Black said:
So what does Cranmer have to say about patience? Particularly in relation to Cranmer and Eucharistic Doctrine?Richard Wardman said:Patience is not a strong point of mine!
I guess I'll have to wait to have the Cranmer collection in my Logos library to find that out! [;)] Actually, I haven't yet officially stated my thesis, although it is fast approaching. Hence my (over)eagerness to get the Collection through CP into Pre-Pub and eventually into publication.
Seriously though, I apologise if my reaction seemed surprising or ungracious. Promise to be more patient from now on!
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Don't worry Richard, your responses are quite tame by comparison. :-) And are you sure you can KEEP that promise? I'll patiently wait your answer. :-PRichard Wardman said:Seriously though, I apologise if my reaction seemed surprising or ungracious.
Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you.
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Richard Wardman said:Thomas Black said:
So what does Cranmer have to say about patience? Particularly in relation to Cranmer and Eucharistic Doctrine?Richard Wardman said:Patience is not a strong point of mine!
I guess I'll have to wait to have the Cranmer collection in my Logos library to find that out!
Actually, I haven't yet officially stated my thesis, although it is fast approaching. Hence my (over)eagerness to get the Collection through CP into Pre-Pub and eventually into publication.
Seriously though, I apologise if my reaction seemed surprising or ungracious. Promise to be more patient from now on!
Personally learned many years ago to not pray for patience, since prayer will be answered. Good idea to look for faith, hope, and love in Romans 5:1-5.
Likewise watching, praying, and hoping for Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) to join 6 other Community Pricing bids closing next week.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Richard Wardman said:
[:D], after many tribulations, Thankful for Love of God that can be freely shared. Especially Thankful for the Peace of God that passeth all understanding (part of Philippians 4).
Back to thread topic, a dear friend bid for Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) today (hoping and praying for more)
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Back to thread topic, a dear friend bid for Thomas Cranmer Collection (10 vols.) today (hoping and praying for more)
That's encouraging! 'One title at a time, one bid at a time...'
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Looks like over 90% now. *Excited!*
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It would be a shame if this didn't reach 100% today. Why not just pop a bid on the Cranmer Collection, if you haven't already!?
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Richard Wardman said:
It would be a shame if this didn't reach 100% today. Why not just pop a bid on the Cranmer Collection, if you haven't already!?
All right all of you "laggers" (Late adopters (buyer) ).
How about giving Richard a hand so he can get back to his studies and we can have this resouce! [:D]
(Not to mention letting this thread die[;)])
If we all jump in on it may be the price will go lower! [Y]
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Tom Rach said:Richard Wardman said:
It would be a shame if this didn't reach 100% today. Why not just pop a bid on the Cranmer Collection, if you haven't already!?
All right all of you "laggers" (Late adopters (buyer) ).
How about giving Richard a hand so he can get back to his studies and we can have this resouce!
(Not to mention letting this thread die
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If we all jump in on it may be the price will go lower!
[Y] I wish I were this persistent in prayer! [;)]
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