Logos just got $40 more of my money (sigh):
http://www.logos.com/product/9435/the-major-works-of-justin-martyr-in-greek
Ordered!
Me too! This is great! Rosie! A biography of Justin Martyr for the uninformed! [;)]
got my order in as well.
I am reading Justin Martyr right now in ANF
Does anyone know if volume 6 of http://www.logos.com/product/4346/patrologia-cursus-completus-series-graeca-part-1 is the same as this product, or is the recently added Justin Martyr pre-pub a much more comple offering. Thanks.
Does anyone know if volume 6 of http://www.logos.com/product/4346/patrologia-cursus-completus-series-graeca-part-1 is the same as this product, or is the recently added Justin Martyr pre-pub a much more comple offering.
I was wondering about that as well. I'd like Justin, but I'm not exactly going to pay for a separate set if it's pretty much the same as in the Patrologia.
The TOC for the Patrologia can be found here. Seems it includes more than this separate resource does -- except I can't find the Epistle to Diognetus in the Patrologia (unless it is included under another title?)*, and obviously not Trollope's and Gildersleeve's notes.
And looking at the publication dates, these are 1846-77, while the Patrologia is 1857-66, so I'm assuming the manuscripts behind are pretty much the same as well? (Anyone knows if better manuscripts have become available since?)
Conclusion: is there a reason for me to buy these, unless I'm in too much of a hurry to wait for the Patrologia (which I am currently not; I need to brush up on my Greek before I can read them anyway)? (If it'd been a $10 CP I would have reached another conclusion, but it's not.)
* I just found an Epistola ad Diognetum in the Patrologia, but it's listed as author Anonymous. The same?
Gildersleeve's and Trollope's Greek texts may be somewhat more modern than the PG (which actually justs reprints the 1742 Benedictine edition), but the major difference would be that they have rather extensive English introductions and notes. (PG is all Latin.)
The other works in the PG attributed to Justin (Oratio ad Graecos, Cohortatio ad Graecos and De Monarchia) are all now thought to be spurious. The Epistle to Diognetus is the anonymous work often included among the Apostolic Fathers, not a work of Justin's. Gildersleeve just includes it in the same volume as Justin's apologies, so you get it (with notes) as a bonus. The product description could be a clearer about this.
Hi folks.
Some notes here. First, this is a seperate edition from the Justin stuff in the very stagnant Patrologia Graeca (PG) pre-pub.
Second, the editions now on prepub in the Justin Martyr collection have Introductions and notes in English.
Third, this new pre-pub is of Justin's stuff in Greek. Many of PG's "Latin only" items are summarizations or introductions in Latin.
Fourth, as the pre-pub description indicates, the Greek editions of Justin's stuff should scroll synchronously with the translations found in ECF.
Fifth, on the Epistle to Diognetus. This in all likelihood is not a writing of Justin Martyr's, but the only extant edition of Epistle to Diognetus (which was since destroyed in a fire in WWI or WWII, as I recall) was found appended to Justin's works, so some editions of Justin include it. It is otherwise typically included in collections of the "Apostolic Fathers". There is all sorts of speculation on EpDiog's author, but most agree that it was definitely not Justin.
Hope it helps.
I guess that post of mine caught Logos' attention. [:D] Thanks for your replies, both of you. They cleared up several things.
Gildersleeve's and Trollope's Greek texts may be somewhat more modern than the PG (which actually justs reprints the 1742 Benedictine edition)
Interesting. But you do say "may". Do you, or someone else, know for sure if there's a difference? And do you, or someone else, know for sure whether something's happened on the manuscript front since? If these truly are the most modern editions, they might be worth buying separately, but if they're pretty much the same as the Patrologia, while there's a far more modern edition out there from, say, the 1980-ies, well, then they're not. At least not for me, now. Unless I give up on the Patrologia, which I certainly ought to do for financial reasons...
By the way, can't you please move the Patrologia to CP? Not only would it be far more affordable; I suspect it would also move faster.
OK, I did some basic research myself. There seems to be a 1990-ies edition by Miroslav Marcovich. Good reviews, but very expensive. Trollope's edition can be checked out here; haven't found Gildersleeve yet.
Thank you for the info...so I am gathering it is worth the extra purchase not just for the English introductions, but for the functionality in being able to link the Greek texts with the ECF.
Does this mean that the PG can not be linked to anything like ECF?
