Metzger's Commentary

Does anyone know where I can obtain, or does Metzger include it, a list of the abbreviations that are used my Metzger in his commentary with the dates.For example:

A majority of the Committee preferred the future tense τηρήσετε, read by B L Ψ 1010 1071 1195 * 2148 al (and perhaps supported indirectly by witnesses that read the aorist subjunctive τηρήσητε, P 66 א 060 33 al), instead of the imperative τηρήσατε, which, though rather well supported (A D K W X Δ Θ Π f 1 f 13 28 565 700 892 Byz), accords less well with ἐρωτήσω in the following verse.

In the above cited text from Metzger on John 14:15, all the text abbreviations (i.e., B L 101 1071, etc.) is there a list of what are the names of those texts with dates. The hover over information is not a whole lot of help unless I am missing something. Thanks and I hope that I explained well enough.

Michael

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Kevin Becker

From the Abbreviations section of Metzger's Commentary

"For the abbreviations of the titles of the books of the Bible, and the sigla of manuscripts and early versions of the New Testament, see the Introduction in The Greek New Testament (fourth revised edition), supplemented by the sigla of witnesses listed in the Appendix at the close of the present volume. For further information concerning individual Greek manuscripts cited in the apparatus, see Caspar René Gregory, Textkritik des Neuen Testamentes, 3 vols. (Leipzig, 1900–09); Kurt Aland, Kurzgefasste Liste der griechischen Handschriften des Neuen Testaments: I. Gesamtübersicht (Berlin, 1963); and Kurt Aland and Barbara Aland, The Text of the New Testament; An Introduction to the Critical Editions and to the Theory and Practice of Modern Textual Criticism, translated by Erroil F. Rhodes, 2nd ed., revised and enlarged (Grand Rapids—Leiden, 1989)."

Unfortunately the USB4 that comes with Logos (or did in previous versions) doesn't have the front matter. One needs a print copy or the SESB for that.

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246610#Comment_246610

Also, I know the NA27 comes with an insert with the dates for the major manuscripts you might be able to pick up just that somewhere (Ebay?)

EDIT: This looks promising http://www.viceregency.com/TextCritCharts.pdf

Rosie Perera

Hover over the B in that example, and you get this:

This means:

manuscript number: B 03

century (saeculum in Latin): IV (4th century)

library: City of the Vatican Library

contents: (hover over e, a, and p, and it will tell you what this manuscript contains: Gospels, Acts & Catholic Letters, Pauline Letters): missing: 1 Tim - Philemon, Hebrews 9:14-end (not sure if this means Heb 9:14-28, the end of the chapter; or Heb 9:14-13:25, the end of the book).

You can see an entire list of all of these notes about the manuscripts here:

http://legacy.earlham.edu/~seidti/iam/table_gkmss.html

Lots more info on each of the manuscripts is available here:

http://www.skypoint.com/members/waltzmn/ManuscriptsUncials.html

Here's some more interesting stuff:

http://www.viceregency.com/TextCritCharts.pdf

http://www.viceregency.com/TextCrit.htm

Pastor Michael Huffman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246616#Comment_246616

Thanks a lot Rosie and Kevin!!!!

Michael

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246610#Comment_246610

Unfortunately the USB4 that comes with Logos (or did in previous versions) doesn't have the front matter.

I thought I remembered that someone had found a PDF edition of this (I think it was on a website in Europe somewhere). Or maybe I'm thinking of the BHS end matter.

George Somsel

Does anyone know where I can obtain, or does Metzger include it, a list of the abbreviations that are used my Metzger in his commentary with the dates.For example:

A majority of the Committee preferred the future tense τηρήσετε, read by B L Ψ 1010 1071 1195 * 2148 al (and perhaps supported indirectly by witnesses that read the aorist subjunctive τηρήσητε, P 66 א 060 33 al), instead of the imperative τηρήσατε, which, though rather well supported (A D K W X Δ Θ Π f 1 f 13 28 565 700 892 Byz), accords less well with ἐρωτήσω in the following verse.

In the above cited text from Metzger on John 14:15, all the text abbreviations (i.e., B L 101 1071, etc.) is there a list of what are the names of those texts with dates. The hover over information is not a whole lot of help unless I am missing something. Thanks and I hope that I explained well enough.

Michael

In addition to the resources already mentioned by others, you can check in

Tischendorf, Constantin von, Caspar Rene Gregory and Ezra Abbot. Novum Testamentum Graece: Prolegomena, Libronix, 1894; 2003.

I.e., if you read Latin. There are two sections particularly which would be of interest to you: "De Codicibus Uncialibus" and "De Codicibus Minusculis et De Lectionariis."

Sakarias Ingolfsson

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I think a lot of those are well worth memorizing and reading up on. Just knowing the word for which the abbreviation stands will not do you much good. A few years ago I purchased and read "A students guide to Textual Criticism of the Bible". Its a great introduction to the subject and makes it all the more meaningful to read writings like Metzger's commentary. The introduction in Metzgers commentary will also provide you with some minor basics, and explain the most common abbreviations like א A B C D P66 P75

Mike Measley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246695#Comment_246695

There are several articles in Wikipedia which give good information on the manuscripts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categories_of_New_Testament_manuscripts#cite_ref-0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandrian_text-type

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesarean_text-type

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_text-type

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_text-type

You can use CTRL-F on the web pages to find the manuscripts.

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246695#Comment_246695

I think a lot of those are well worth memorizing and reading up on. Just knowing the word for which the abbreviation stands will not do you much good. A few years ago I purchased and read "A students guide to Textual Criticism of the Bible". Its a great introduction to the subject and makes it all the more meaningful to read writings like Metzger's commentary. The introduction in Metzgers commentary will also provide you with some minor basics, and explain the most common abbreviations like א A B C D P66 P75

I second this! this is a very good resource and not very expensive...

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246989#Comment_246989

I think a lot of those are well worth memorizing and reading up on. Just knowing the word for which the abbreviation stands will not do you much good. A few years ago I purchased and read "A students guide to Textual Criticism of the Bible". Its a great introduction to the subject and makes it all the more meaningful to read writings like Metzger's commentary. The introduction in Metzgers commentary will also provide you with some minor basics, and explain the most common abbreviations like א A B C D P66 P75

I second this! this is a very good resource and not very expensive...

This looks like a very valuable resource that I'd like to look at soon. As I'm even more on the beginner's side of textual criticism, David Allan Black's http://www.logos.com/product/7489/new-testament-textual-criticism-a-concise-guide helped me to get an initial grasp on this whole topic.

Mick

Milford Charles Murray

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246695#Comment_246695

I think a lot of those are well worth memorizing and reading up on. Just knowing the word for which the abbreviation stands will not do you much good. A few years ago I purchased and read "A students guide to Textual Criticism of the Bible". Its a great introduction to the subject and makes it all the more meaningful to read writings like Metzger's commentary. The introduction in Metzgers commentary will also provide you with some minor basics, and explain the most common abbreviations like א A B C D P66 P75

Peace to you, Sakarias! *smile*

and ........... .............. Always Joy in the Lord!

I am grateful to you for your post. Exactly the book I was looking for and didn't know it existed! Thanks for sharing!

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