Free Tool: QuickLink
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Denise Barnhart said:
I hope you don't over-interpret the pattern of responses as 'not interested' etc.
First thank you for your response! Your response has helped bring others to leave a response on the post. The idea for this came about a week ago and it took me several days to get it working. Then it took a day or 2 to get it documented and presentable. i was very excited when i got it working and find several uses of the program. Yes i was disappointed when no one else replied to the post. But i decided to go ahead and invest more time to build a webpage for the tool. As it is it takes considerable time to make it presentable for others to use and not so much for my own use. But it seems there are a few of you interested in the program. So as it progresses i will drop a line in this post. i have a few other ideas that i want to pursue. And if they work out i will document and add them to the website.
Thanks again for letting me know it is useful to you!
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Clinton Thomas said:
I am having the crash right after launching. It installed, but did not create the desktop link. I created a shortcut, copied it into the L4 task bar and launched from there. I will try the new version in a bit. I am tight for time so it will not happen for a few hours.
Clinton,
i tried to email a debug version of QL to you, but your email address quit working. If you email me again i can send you the debug version of QL which should help identify the problem.
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Hi Steve,
I received the new zip file at 8:06 tonight. It worked fine, so my .net install is probably OK.
Unless gmail was down, my email should still be OK....Unless I am being removed from the NET....
Regards,
Clinton
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Is anyone running this utility with Logos Beta (4.3 beta 5) under vista?
If so could you let me know?
Thanks,
Clinton
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steve clark said:
i have built a tool using Visual Basic which works with Logos 4. It allows you to quickly position unlinked resources to that of a linked resource without having to actually link them.
I'm all for finding shortcuts and easier ways of doing things, but I don't get the usefulness of this. Why not just use the Logos links? If I want a resource to go to the location of another, I can just link it to the (link) letter the desired resource is set to and unlink it when I don't want the connection anymore. I admit your way might take a few less mouse clicks. Did I overlook something?
Have a great day,
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Hi Jim,
Jim said:I'm all for finding shortcuts and easier ways of doing things, but I don't get the usefulness of this. Why not just use the Logos links?
There are a couple of things that come to mind and i am guessing that you already watched the short video demo on the website.
A. Often i will have one or more Bibles open and studying a scripture passage.
And i will have a commentary open as well. If i am reading in the commentary and scroll down it as i am reading it moves my Bible location as i scroll the commentary. And i often want & do refer to the Bible passage when seeing what the commentator had to say to see if i agreed with their comments. Using the QL tool allows me to locate the commentary to the passage without linking the commentary. Then if i scroll around i still can view my Bible passage as i read through the commentary without interruption.B. Often i will have multiple Bibles open to related scripture passages which occur in different Bible books or other parts of the same Bible book.
In this case using QL allows me to jump in my commentary to any of the above Bible books so that i can review what a commentary says on that particular passage. Yes QL doesn't do this with multi-volume commentaries (L4's API for navigating does not automatically pull up the associated passage with the right series commentary, not much i can do there).These are just a couple of uses that i have for QL. The few others that i have spoken with have found QL useful too. This may not suit your needs and i can appreciate that. But if you haven't watched the short video i made, then i would encourage you to view it if you have any interest in alternate linking methods as you implied.
Thanks for your comment!
EDIT: for the link to the QL website, see QLinks below in my signature.
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If you have multiple computers with Logos 4 installed, you may have noticed problems with the Helper App shortcuts in your Logos 4 shortcuts bar not functioning in your other computers.
There is a method explained on this webpage:
Helper
App shortcuts in Logos 4 on multiple computers which will have them working on each of your computers.0 -
Thanks for your work.
But my eyes cannot follow the cursor fast enough to even figure out what is happening. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and I agree. But without some words I'm just not "getting" it.
[But thanks for all you are doing on the forums]
Regards, SteveF
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SteveF said:
But my eyes cannot follow the cursor fast enough to even figure out what is happening. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and I agree. But without some words I'm just not "getting" it.
Hi Steve,
What part are you not getting? How to use QuickLinks? (see video demo here). (it does have audio)
Or is it the Helper Apps that you don't understand?
EDIT: Do you have Team Viewer? if so i can send you a ID & PW and show you on my computer.
EDIT2: is there something i could create which would assist you? i.e. another video and move the mouse more slowly & telling in the audio where i am placing the mouse. What would help you?
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Hey Steve! So I'm just reading about your little app here and was wondering: what is the point behind it? I'm not really sure I'm understanding what it would be useful to me for. Can you give me an example?
Thanks! [:D]
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Hi Carmen,
Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell said:what is the point behind it? I'm not really sure I'm understanding what it would be useful to me for. Can you give me an example?
Did you see this post http://community.logos.com/forums/p/33327/250569.aspx#250569 where i explained a couple of uses? Also did you see the video demo?
In a brief explanation (i need to get ready for evening church in a few minutes):
It allows you to navigate a selected unlinked book in L4 to the position of one of your linked books. This allows you to read & scroll in the unlinked window without disturbing your linked window. After explaining it to my son, he calls the unlinked window a catch-all window. Using this tool prevents my linked windows from being moved off my study verse while i am viewing stuff in the catch-all window. [catch-all window is not what i would call it, because i often have a couple of unlinked windows that i move to locations i use.]
One particular mode i like in an unlinked Bible is when i set it to Send Hyperlinks Here. Then i have footnoted passages navigate that window, then i might want it navigated back to where one of my linked Bibles is located.
So if you have seen the video, please let me know. Maybe i need to remake that video with more detail or even make a different one showing some examples.
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Regards, SteveF
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steve clark said:
It allows you to navigate a selected unlinked book in L4 to the position of one of your linked books. This allows you to read & scroll in the unlinked window without disturbing your linked window. After explaining it to my son, he calls the unlinked window a catch-all window. Using this tool prevents my linked windows from being moved off my study verse while i am viewing stuff in the catch-all window. [catch-all window is not what i would call it, because i often have a couple of unlinked windows that i move to locations i use.]
That part now makes sense to me. Thanks
Regards, SteveF
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Updated QuickLinks to reposition unlinked:
- Text Comparison
- CitedBy
- Explorer
See the update notes for other details.
See QLinks in my signature below to get to the QuickLinks webpage.
EDIT: see video demo of this new feature: QL with tools
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steve clark said:
Updated QuickLinks to reposition unlinked:
- Text Comparison
- CitedBy
- Explorer
See the update notes for other details.
See QLinks in my signature below to get to the QuickLinks webpage.
EDIT: see video demo of this new feature: QL with tools
Thank you for this latest improvement. GREAT![:D][Y]
Your time, effort and sharing are MUCH APPRECIATED[{][}]
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Hi Steve
I've only just now had the opportunity to install QuickLinks.
It looks as though it is going to be really useful.
Great job and thanks for sharing
Graham
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Hi Graham,
Graham Criddle said:I've only just now had the opportunity to install QuickLinks.
If you downloaded the installer from the forum, then you do not have the latest version. You will need to go to the website QuickLinks (see link in my signature below) to get the most up to date version, as well as access to the other Helper Apps that you can also install.
Hope that it is useful to you as you anticipate,
steve
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After doing the reboot I mentioned in my earlier post, I tried to load this program and it refused to load...something was missing, I think.
I'll try again, I suppose, since this sounds like sonething I would get use from.
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Just tried to load this again and got the following...
Error: Could NOT establish communications with Logos 4 COM.
Error HRESULT_FAIL has been returned from a call to a COM component.
Any ideas how I should proceed?
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Hi Paul,
David Paul said:Error: Could NOT establish communications with Logos 4 COM.
Error HRESULT_FAIL has been returned from a call to a COM component.These are symptoms that i have only seen on 2 other computers. i built a custom version and installed it on the 2 other computers. That installation performed all task with the exception of Logos API calls. i emailed Logos tech support and they had me try running Logos4 with a command line parameter for registering tools. That did not work on either computer. i later got an email from Bob letting me know that the issue was forwarded to a developer, but that they were pretty busy and would get back to me when they found time if ever.
So it is my guess that something did not install properly in the Logos installation having to do with setting up their API interface. There also is a possibility that some other app on the user's computer has trashed something (e.g. registry cleaners).
In one of those 2 cases the user had more than one computer and QL installed OK on the other computer. One machine was a Vista machine (same as mine).
Sorry that you are having problems, but i am at a loss to how to fix it. [:(]
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steve clark said:
Sorry that you are having problems, but i am at a loss to how to fix it.
Well, c'est la vie. Not the first disappointment in my life. Thanks anyway. Sounds like a useful program.
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Thanks Steve
steve clark said:You will need to go to the website QuickLinks (see link in my signature below) to get the most up to date version, as well as access to the other Helper Apps that you can also install.
I did pick it up from the website so think I'm all set
Graham
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I just went through the installation process and am excited about this new convenience. I am also eager to have you post the process for the additional apps. My problem is that after the installation I have the shortcut on my L4 menue bar but it won't open Quicklink. It doesn't show up in the task bar at the bottom. It is in my programs and once I fiddled with it enough in the program menue to get it to open but can't seem to get it to open there either now. Stumped!
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Hi Rodger,
Rodger Allen Thompson said:My problem is that after the installation I have the shortcut on my L4 menue bar but it won't open Quicklink. It doesn't show up in the task bar at the bottom. It is in my programs and once I fiddled with it enough in the program menue to get it to open but can't seem to get it to open there either now. Stumped!
i suspect that you have it running, but if you are running Windows 7 it may have hidden the notification icon. i have seen this happen on other's PCs that i have remotely connected to. i don't have Win7 so i cannot show you a picture. But in the notification area (icons next to the clock in your taskbar) you will see an arrow or triangle, if you click on it windows will pop up a small box showing you the icons that it has hidden. You should see the QL icon there. Just use your mouse to grab it and drag it to the notification icon area and drop it where you want it.
If you cannot figure this out please email me sclark at clark-tx dot net and i can help you further. The preferred method is for you to install a free app called Team Viewer and email me the ID & PW so that i can connect to your PC.
Let me know the outcome,
steveEDIT:
Starting QuickLinks
1. Click once on the QuickLinks shortcut in your Logos 4 shortcut bar
(if you followed the instructions during installation you should have added QL to the Logos 4 shortcut bar)2. After you have done step 1, you will see a message window letting you know that QuickLinks is connecting
to Logos 4.
(if you see this message window you know:
a. That QuickLinks has started. If you do not receive an error message then QL is running.
b. After the message window disappears, QL adds it's icon
to the notification area on your taskbar.
(Win7 may hide it, if so look on the notification bar for a triangle/arrow and click on it, a pop-up box with icons
will appear, you should see the QL icon there, drag it to the notification bar and drop it)
3. After QL is running, you will see the QL icon in your notification bar.
To use QL without the Helper Apps you will need to right click on the QL icon and
a pop-up menu appears (see image below)
This is how you use QL in the manual mode without the Helper Apps. See the video QuickLinks demo.
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You are correct, that is what was happening. It is working fine, I just didn't realize it. Now I look forward to the additional apps you have developed. Please do publish the process, and thanks for your help.
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Rodger, i am glad to hear that you got QL working!
Rodger Allen Thompson said:Now I look forward to the additional apps you have developed. Please do publish the process, and thanks for your help.
i am guessing you are talking about QL's Helper Apps, you can download & install them from this webpage: Helper Apps
Or perhaps you are speaking of moreFavorites, see this webpage to download & install it: mFavs
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How the Helper Apps work
After you install the Helper Apps per the installation procedure and moved the shortcuts from a folder on your desktop to the Logos 4 shortcut bar, you will see the shortcuts as large link letter icons. (note: Helper Apps do not show up in the notification bar like QL)
1. Click in an unlinked window that you want to position to where a linked window is positioned.
2. Now click on the Helper App who's link letter matches the linked window.
(if QL is not running, the Helper App will start QL first)3. Now notice in your unlinked window that you clicked on in step #1 is now positioned to where your linked window is positioned.
(the Helper App saves you a few key strokes and you don't have to move your mouse out of the Logos 4 window)
Another example
4. Click in an unlinked window.
5. Now click on a Helper App letter matching a linked window.
6. Notice the QL has positioned your unlinked window to where the linked window was positioned.
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Yes the helper apps is what I was looking for. I have them installed and on my shortcut bar. I did remove the QL4 shortcut as you suggested but it remains in the folder on my desktop. Is this correct? Also I looked breifly at the mFavs and saw the installation instructions but did not see any explanation as to what it does. Before I install it could you give me a brief explanation? Thanks so much for you help. I am looking forward to more convenient study time now.
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Rodger Allen Thompson said:
I did remove the QL4 shortcut as you suggested but it remains in the folder on my desktop. Is this correct?
Yes, you will need to leave QuickLinks window shortcut installed on the desktop folder. The Helper Apps will start QL if they find it is not currently running. After using a Helper App you will see the QL icon in the notification bar. The Helper App communicates to the QL app, they do not do the communicating with Logos 4, it still is the QL app which requests action from Logos 4.
Rodger Allen Thompson said:Also I looked breifly at the mFavs and saw the installation instructions but did not see any explanation as to what it does. Before I install it could you give me a brief explanation?
Brief info on mFav is found on the mFav webpage. For instructions on how to use it, are found on the mFav Help webpage. There you can view the Help PDF or download it and use PDF viewer to read it.
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Thanks for all your help!
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