Critique of vyrso.com
This site relies on rollovers to provide book descriptions. As a result, in the browser on my android tablet (and I assume on my iPad), I can get no product descriptions. This seems fundamentally flawed for a site aimed at selling books to a mobile market.
Further, clicking on the book cover or book title takes one straight to the checkout. This is most unexpected behaviour. I would assume that it would take me to a book description.
I think that it is a mistake to use the logos.com checkout. I wonder what non-logos users will think of being taken from one domain to another when purchasing books.
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I was surfing logos.com on an iPad at the Apple store earlier this year and noticed the same issue on the logos.com front page. Any rollovers are virtually impossible to navigate. I even asked one of the associates on the floor. We both shrugged. Is there a technique to work around this? (ie accessing the drop down menus?)
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Damian McGrath said:
Further, clicking on the book cover or book title takes one straight to the checkout. This is most unexpected behaviour. I would assume that it would take me to a book description.
I agree. This was a shock to me. I might expect the Add to cart button to take me right to the checkout, but not clicking on the title or book cover.
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Rosie Perera said:Damian McGrath said:
Further, clicking on the book cover or book title takes one straight to the checkout. This is most unexpected behaviour. I would assume that it would take me to a book description.
I agree. This was a shock to me. I might expect the Add to cart button to take me right to the checkout, but not clicking on the title or book cover.
It's even worse than that: I clicked in the empty space between two book covers yesterday (trying to get rid of an annoying popup that wouldn't go away), and even that sent me to the checkout. Talk about unwanted behaviour!
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Damian McGrath said:
This site relies on rollovers to provide book descriptions. As a result, in the browser on my android tablet (and I assume on my iPad), I can get no product descriptions. This seems fundamentally flawed for a site aimed at selling books to a mobile market.
Further, clicking on the book cover or book title takes one straight to the checkout. This is most unexpected behaviour. I would assume that it would take me to a book description.
I think that it is a mistake to use the logos.com checkout. I wonder what non-logos users will think of being taken from one domain to another when purchasing books.
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Damian McGrath said:
This site relies on rollovers to provide book descriptions. As a result, in the browser on my android tablet (and I assume on my iPad), I can get no product descriptions.
I am sometimes using IE 7 on a PC where I can't update to more recent IE versions or other browsers. The book descriptions will appear, but they are semi-transparent or not on top of the stack of virtual pictures piled on the screen, thus they are nearly unreadable due to overlaying pictures from nearby books.
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NewbieMick said:
I am sometimes using IE 7 on a PC where I can't update to more recent IE versions or other browsers.
Wow - that's a mess.
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Damian McGrath said:NewbieMick said:
I am sometimes using IE 7 on a PC where I can't update to more recent IE versions or other browsers.
Wow - that's a mess.
at the hospital where I work, we still had IE 6, I think. It really sucked. I couldn't sign up for the iPad2, either. Had to wait till i got home. Ahh, the trials of life!
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Well guys, the point is not about the poor situation of people with old browsers and without new gadgets, but since Logos sometimes seems to test only current versions (remember the facebook sales list, anybody?), it might be helpful to inform them when some of their websites don't run on certain configurations - after all, this might mean lost revenue to Logos. Outdated browsers (and OS versions) are not that uncommon, especially in the broader marketplace that Logos wants to grow into.
Mick
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My concern is different. I find it very disappointing that you force us to get a facebook account in order to participate. I am fed up with 'social media' and refuse to join facebook or twitter, even for a free iPad2. Why can we not participate (or even comment) using just our email or even our Logos ID.
–– DLA
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David Adams said:
My concern is different. I find it very disappointing that you force us to get a facebook account in order to participate. I am fed up with 'social media' and refuse to join facebook or twitter, even for a free iPad2. Why can we not participate (or even comment) using just our email or even our Logos ID.
David,
It is possible to comment on blog posts without being on Facebook. Underneath all the FB comments is a place for submitting other comments.
I share your concern about reliance on these other media. I too am an avowed non-facebooker.
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Damian McGrath said:
I too am an avowed non-facebooker.
non-facebooker . . . COOL~! Where is that website? [B]
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:Damian McGrath said:
I too am an avowed non-facebooker.
non-facebooker . . . COOL~! Where is that website?
Now that would be a great social networking site to offer to people who buy HP's new "non-computer for people who don't need a computer" (The Onion, satire): http://www.theonion.com/articles/hp-unveils-noncomputer-for-those-who-dont-need-a-c,20378/
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NewbieMick said:
Well guys, the point is not about the poor situation of people with old browsers and without new gadgets, but since Logos sometimes seems to test only current versions (remember the facebook sales list, anybody?), it might be helpful to inform them when some of their websites don't run on certain configurations - after all, this might mean lost revenue to Logos. Outdated browsers (and OS versions) are not that uncommon, especially in the broader marketplace that Logos wants to grow into.
Mick
Thanks for the heads-up...for helping us be sure we don't let things like this slip through the cracks!
Interestingly, purely from a numbers/stats perspective (and not as a point of rebuttal), only about 2% of visits to Vyrso.com are from IE 7 or earlier. In fact, only 1/4 of visits are from any version of IE at all.
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lol, Rosie, that was pretty good. You are like the Google-Almanac person. Googlalmanac. Googlamaniac?
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Stephen Smith said:
In fact, only 1/4 of visits are from any version of IE at all.
Interesting stat, Stephen.
i use Firefox and Chrome 97 percent of the time. Only on outdated office computers or when I "have to" do I use IE.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:
lol, Rosie, that was pretty good. You are like the Google-Almanac person. Googlalmanac. Googlamaniac?
No, I just happened to have read that article recently so non-facebooker reminded me of it.
But yeah, I'm a bit of a Googleaholic or Google-maniac or whatever you call it.
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Stephen Smith said:
Interestingly, purely from a numbers/stats perspective (and not as a point of rebuttal), only about 2% of visits to Vyrso.com are from IE 7 or earlier. In fact, only 1/4 of visits are from any version of IE at all.
That may well be today (although in my IE days, some websites believed I was surfing with a "Mozilla compatible" browser?!), on the other hand, when Vyrso.com gets really popular - some ads in Christianity Today later or so - I assume you will approximate the general distribution of browsers (like shown here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers with a breakdown into older versions e.g. for IE maybe like here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#Market_share_history_overview_by_year_and_version ), albeit with a stronger proportion of mobile browsers.
Actually it was Logos (facebook sale glitch, IE 9 problem of L3) that drove me after years of IE usage to Firefox.
Mick
Edit: FWIW: I retain IE 8 for an application that doesn't work well with IE 9 - don't know how the "compatibility view" shows up in your statistics, at least it brings about the same website behaviour as IE 7
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Damian, thanks for the feedback. As someone pointed out, Vyrso.com hasn't officially been launched yet. Right now, it's a temporary site (coded by the Marketing Department!) mainly about the giveaway and getting the word out. It's not as much about selling books at this point. When it launches, it will have it's own product pages and it's own shopping cart and checkout process. In the meantime, we're having to share some of this with Logos.com. There is a note informing users that they will be sent to Logos.com to check out. We opted not to create product pages on Logos.com and figured that most people would recognize these books since they are bestsellers or could look them up on the publisher's site or Amazon.
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Thanks Phil.
I hope that when it is launched that it is tested intensively on iOS and android.
One of the things which I discovered the other day is that I cannot delete items from my shopping cart on my iPad. I guess clearing teh cache or some such will be the only way to resolve this.
Phil Gons said:There is a note informing users that they will be sent to Logos.com to check out.
I discovered this only much later when I had finally scrolled all the way to the bottom of the page. It is very unobtrusive
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