Logos for Android Beta 1

Dave Dunkin (Logos) · 2011-06-10T16:27:00+00:00

New * Popup footnotes * Popup reference previews * Jump links * Tapping the edge of the page goes back or forward Improved * Downloaded and downloading badges in library view * Better Greek and Hebrew text rendering * Better performance displaying streaming books with images * Better performance loading books * Table of…

Dave Dunkin (Logos)

New

Popup footnotes
Popup reference previews
Jump links
Tapping the edge of the page goes back or forward

Improved

Downloaded and downloading badges in library view
Better Greek and Hebrew text rendering
Better performance displaying streaming books with images
Better performance loading books
Table of contents groups are now supported (e.g. aardvark-aligator in a dictionary)
Reader controls are easier to hit
Updated icons

Fixed

Support for Android 2.1
Automatic updater now only downloads an update once
Miscellaneous crashes

Known Issues

Greek text displays poorly on Android 2.2
Popups do not display Greek and Hebrew correctly
Right-to-left text does not display correctly
Poor network connection may cause a crash or show a “Navigation Failed” or “Resource display could not be loaded”
Network connections from behind a login page are not supported (e.g. a hotel or other hotspot that requires login)
Opening and navigating in a book cannot be cancelled
The app will crash if there is no SD card
The verse picker does not display correctly on tablets
Links inside footnotes are not clickable
Links to other books fail on Android 2.3+
Downloading media resources is not supported

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Comments

TWFCC

Does the beta 1 version not come with the passage guide and the other main menu options and tools? All I have is web access to my library.

Please advise.

Mel...

Brenda Langley

Received Beta 1 today.

Installed on Incredible, then Orig Droid, Droid X, and Samsung Charge with no issues.

Picks up purchased library with no issues.

Rotation while reading text, no problems.

Navigating by verse selection, no problems

WIll really start to wring it out tomorrow.

Brenda Langley

Mel:

Touch the bottom of the screen and you will see a search bar and the navigation selection dialog. Using this you can search by verse, or contents.

Jim!

David Buckham

Got the app earlier today and installed it. Seems to run fine. One crash. Nothing major. But I had to reboot my phone (rooted and running most recent stable Cyanogenmod 7 on a Droid Incredible) and now I have a continual boot loop. Gotta love it!

Not in panic mode yet.

Michael

First off, thanks for all your hard work. I’m really excited to be trying the beta. I hope this information will be useful and am
happy to provide any additional details upon request.

Specs: HTC Nexus One (AT&T version), Gingerbread
2.3.4, non-rooted, using Vodacom Tanzania network

Observations

· Issue: I don’t
have access to my whole library including resources like the NIV Bible and
HALOT.

· Issue: Not
all resources are available for download/offline use like the GNT. Although I’m probably in the minority here,
my network connectivity isn’t always good since I’m in Tanzania so offline
content is important to me.

· Issue: Hebrew
text appears to be scrunched in the BHS, not just in popups.

· Question: From the Logos site I remember the
Android page saying the Android app would be like the Iphone app and contain the
same features. I may just not know how
to use the Android app, but I couldn’t find many features like reading plans,
text comparison, passage guide, etc.
Will these features be added later on?

· Suggestion: Many Android apps with long lists
have a thumb button that appears on the right hand side when you begin to
scroll down (like the music app). This
would be very useful for the library page since some libraries can be very long.

Blessings,

Michael

www.mandmbarton.net

TWFCC

Hey Jim,

Thanks for the tip. It works great. My next question is this: is the 'swipe up' feature enabled for the Droid X? I just want to make sure that I have installed the application completely. I am looking for the menu that contains the 'Passage Guide', 'Text Comparison', 'Search for Citations', 'Add to Favorites', 'Share' options (as in the iPhone video).

If this beta version does not have that functionality yet, I just wanted to know. Thanks.

Phone Type: Droid X

Other than that, all else is looking good so far. I'm very excited about dumping my other bible apps. Thanks again Logos!

Mel...

Paul Dirks

Samsung Nexus S. Latest version of Gingerbread

I've got the beta installed now and will be putting it through it's paces over the next few days. Started by downloading a few books for offline reading. Will post more later. Thanks Logos!

Paul Dirks

Michael

Specs: HTC Nexus One (AT&T version), Gingerbread 2.3.4, non-rooted, using Vodacom Tanzania network

Oh I found something. Whenever I try to navigate to Philemon I get a force close. It I have reproduced it for several verses in Philemon and with two separate Bibles. I can navigate to it if I am flipping pages from the previous book, but when navigating from book, chapter, and verse it force closes every time. Otherwise I'm enjoying myself and it's great to have all this original language power in my pocket.

Brenda Langley

Hi Mel:

I do not have a personal Droid X, ( I am using a HTC Incredible running Android 2.2.) I was able to install & uninstall Logos on several phones at a Verizon store where a friend of mine works, but did not check out the swipe up functionality. Remember that the phone would have to use the default Android keyboard, (Incredible uses the HTC Sense kbd.) I would be surprised if it does not work as I believe that this is native Android functionality starting with version 2.2

Maybe one of the Android developers could better answer this, or I will try it the next time I am in the Verizon store.

Pete Holzmann

MrPete here, Evo Shift 4G, droid 2.2, 16GB SD

Installation went well.

I can confirm the following known issues:

Links inside footnotes are not clickable
Opening and navigating in a book cannot be cancelled. Beta Testers Take Note: this means any hiccup involving book opening or navigation means the app will hang. You must reboot or kill the app from an app manager to continue testing.

Issues for first-time installation (these are not repeatable after the app has been exited the first time, AFAIK):

PH-B01 First Time Bypass Login. If I click on the "Open" button made available immediately after successful installation, the app directly jumps into the ASV title page... bypassing the opening screen, and the login/config prompt. And there are no menus for adjusting your login id... so initially I thought the beta was only for a small number of public domain books! Exit the app and re-enter to see the login/config screen.
PH-B02 First Time (or Guest?) KJV will not open. During the same first-time "open" with no login configured, I downloaded the KJV (not Authorized Version - KJV1900.) and could not get it to display. This was not a network issue; the message was "Could not create
a resource display."
PH-B03 Library display unusably slow for first hour. For the first hour or so of operation, the Library list would hardly scroll, up or down. "CatLog" (console logger) showed the app was downloading and unzipping many jpg files and other user interface elements. (I'm on a 1.5mbit DSL here, the fastest available in my area.)

Significant usability defects:

PH-B04 Back exits, re-entry slow. It is too easy to completely exit the app (just press "Back")... and slow to re-enter.
PH-B05 Slow UI leads to user errors. Every page turn gives a delay; many other aspects involve delay. Plus there is no way to cancel a book change or navigation element (a known issue). The result: users easily press "back" one time too many. And due to bug PH-B04, you end up leaving the app. Great care is needed right now to avoid this.
PH-B06 No way to cancel/restart resource downloading. I have successfully downloaded several resources. However, some have never completed. There is no way to "poke" at an incomplete download, no way to cancel and restart.

Other issues seen:

PH-C01 Crash during download of ASV resource file. (once only, not yet repeated.)
PH-C02 Crash during login (once only, not yet repeated.)

Suggestions:

PH-S01 Support other reading modes (night, contrast). Would help to have "night mode" reading (white on black) and Very High Contrast reading (bold text everywhere) for sight-impaired readers
PH-S02 Support vertical text scrolling modes for small-screen users, particularly if the top of the page can be visibly rendered while more of the page is rendered in the background. Sideways "paging" is much less intuitive, and quite delay-ful ... (OR -- will the app cache a few pages forward and back? That might work...)
PH-S03 Support chapter "picker" in addition to book picker. Right now, a single button takes the user to a list of all Bible books. To jump to a different chapter, one must re-pick the current chapter, then choose a chapter. Suggestion: remove the text box (replace with a button), provide current book and chapter as buttons. Also make the current resource (ie Bible version) be a button as well for quick version switching (and perhaps later comparison etc of multiple versions.)

Hope this is helpful! THANK YOU for your great work. This will soon be an outstanding Bible reader!

His blessings to you all,
Pete

Pete Holzmann

A few more bugs noted...

PH-B07 Some text symbols do not display at all. I first see this in "Apparatus for the SBL", at the beginning of "Symbols Used in the Text". All I see (where ___ is blanks) is: " ___ or ___ or __1 A textual note..." -- this for the first two entries. Then later, under "Symbols used in the notes", the first several ones are ok, but the double-square bracket symbol next to #6 is missing, "Used by Westcott and Hort to mark material that they did not think..."
PH-B08 Menu pops up broken arrows/indicator. In any Bible, pressing the Menu button brings up "Library", "History" and above those a pair of arrows and the current location in the center, a bit like this: << Matthew 5:9 >> ... Not sure if this is supposed to be functional, but right now it is broken in two ways: the left arrow will not "decrease" the location before the current verse, and there is no way to actually do anything -- the only functionality is to count verses "up" and back to where we are now.
PH-B09 Hang on sign-in after Exit-by-back-key. If I press the Android "go back" button while in the Library, Logos exits (at least visually -- it is still in memory). If I then press the Logos icon to start up again, I get "Initializing..." for a few seconds, then "Signing in..." forever. The only way out is to kill the app.
PH-B10 English text before Bible books is linked to Strongs?! At least in the AV/KJV, each word of the introductory text (found before many books of the bible) is highlighted as a link (cf Hebrews, etc). Click on it and you get a popup Strongs entry?! (Is this intentional?)
PH-B11 TDNTA links are broken. I have TDNTA (Theological Dictionary, Abridged in One Volume.) The links in Strongs to TDNTA give an error message: "Navigation Failed".

Three hints for other beta testers:

A partial "workaround" discovered for PH-B06: if a book download fails, and is hung, if I kill and restart the app several times, sometimes it eventually tries to download again. I've seen this happen twice, but I still have more than half a dozen "stuck"/failed downloads.

I use "Watchdog Lite" to easily kill Logos if/when needed. It's also a good tool for catching any rogue app that takes over your cpu

Because of bug PH-B09, for now the only clean way to "exit" is simply to go to another app (press Home, etc). Do NOT press the back button to get out. And no, there is not an "Exit" menu item. (Not really needed!)

OVERALL -- not bad for a first beta! Amazing how much works perfectly! (Example: my phone went into Airplane Mode for the night. The library was showing... it immediately reorganized to eliminate online books. I disabled Airplane mode, and the list filled right back up

Blessings,
Pete

Michael

Found another bug:

When using the 'Lexham Greek Interlinear Septuagint,' the books menu appears distorted. Chapters and verses appear normally but the books part looks funny and not all of the links seem to work. Other OT resources like BHS don't have the same problem maybe it's the resources with the Apocrypha that have this problem.

Blessings,
Michael

Brenda Langley

I noticed that after purchasing the NIV bible, I can not see it in my library, although I can see it on my Windows version?

Droid Incredible

Android 2.2

TWFCC

Is there away to way to see the file size of a book before you download it?

Droid X

Mel...

Michael

Jim,

The FAQ section says they are still working out a licensing issue to get the NIV on phones. That had me worried to, but it should be available eventually.

Blessings,
Michael

Jacob Hantla

I noticed that after purchasing the NIV bible, I can not see it in my library, although I can see it on my Windows version?

Droid Incredible

Android 2.2

NIV is not available yet. To see if a resource is available you have to check the resource page on Logos.com to see if the mobile web icon is showing (it looks like an ipod). This isn't a bug, but a licensing issue with Zondervan.

Brenda Langley

Ok Guys, thanks for the clarification.

Robert Pavich

Just to add info: I'm not getting the Philemon crash. I navigated using by typing "Phile" from the keyboard and it went right to the correct book.

this was done on my:

Xperia X10

Cyangenmod rom

V 2.2

rooted.

Frank Sauer

So quick question for Team Logos... Not looking for any ETAs, but wondering if there is a beta release schedule we should look forward to? Similar to the desktop versions.... Once a week, every two weeks, etc...

Dave Dunkin (Logos)

Our schedule so far has been a "release" every two weeks. That may change later as we get into more complex features or if our developer time gets shifted around.

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Martin Knights

Hi Dave thanks sending through the link to beta version, my thanks to all those on Logos for the wonderful work they've done in providing a great product which is now being extended to the android platform.

I am running Android 2.2 on the Samsung Galaxy S, everything installed well all my books have been downloaded, the updates appear to be working well too. The only thing I notice which is strange some books (4 so far),the first time I they open to last page or sometimes in the middle of the book.

I would like to make a suggestion for one of the features to be added next, as the beta version in its current form just enables me to read the books in my library, It would be good to have the resource information about the books available in the library view.

Once again well done keep up the good work.

Martin

Dave Dunkin (Logos)

Martin,

Logos syncs your last position in books. If you had a book open in Logos 4 or Logos for iOS to some point in the middle and later open the book in Logos for Android, it will open to the place you left off.

To view resource information, press the > arrow in the library view or the info button in the reading view.

Dave

Michael C. Brown

When I first tried to install on my Droid X w/ Gingerbread it failed in installing - had to redownload and install.

- Does it have an ability to go to the TOC or search a book? Because all I can do right now is read a book.

Graham Criddle

Michael

You can go to the TOC - open the book, tap the centre of the screen, tap the 5 horizontal lines icon to the right of the passage box and select the Contents tab,

At the moment you can't search a book

Graham

Brenda Langley

Have you tried tapping the screen, the typing in the phrase you want to search for, and pressing the little arrow to the left of the text box?

Robert Pavich

Yes.

it appears that the little arrow is the "back" button.

GLR

installed beta 1 on Acer Iconia tablet honeycomb 3.1(android) today. first impression is very good! only fault is some letters missing in book finder drop down.

I really like this app and almost all of my library is available.

Thanks for all the work so far!!

Jared Ray

Hello!

I've installed on a Droid Incredible, android 2.2. without problems. The app was worked well.

I can also reproduce the Philemon crash by navigating to it via the TOC.

-Jared

Jared Ray

A couple notes:

I used my Logos app in church today!

Issue #1: One thing I noticed as read some scriptures, the screen saver would turn on after a short while and my screen would lock. So to keep reading I would have to unlock my screen.

Issue #2: Just now I got a "Logos Update Available" notification in my notification area. I clicked it to install the logos updated but it raised an error "There is a problem parsing the package."

Edit #1: This occurred on HTC Droid Incredible (Android 2.2)

Edit #2: For issue #2 above, I got error when trying to upgrade Logos from the notification, but my Droid was plugged into my computer via USB, with "Charge Only" turned on, and USB Debugging turned on. After unplugging the phone from my computer, the update worked... I realize now that this may not be specific to the Logos app.

Thanks guys!

Mark Kunkee

I just installed the app on my rooted nook touch (Android 2.1) with no problems. Opened a few Bibles and books and no problems except what has already been noted. I am going to love having logos on an e-ink screen. Thanks for releasing this beta.

Robert Pavich

Thanks for releasing this beta.

Hopefully you installed Beta 4

Pastor Peter Greene

just downloaded a few books and a couple have got stuck on downloading and i can’t stop the download loop can anyone help me

AA7163

just downloaded a few books and a couple have got stuck on downloading and i can’t stop the download loop can anyone help me

Temporary possible fix: This happened to me because of a bad data signal. I restarted my phone and then shortly got a message saying, error downloading. I was then able to move to wifi and try again successfully.

I think an option to cancel the download, mid-download, would be helpful, like you can do with applications and others. This would be a more permanent solution to solve this problem when it occurs.

Tim Chesonis

I'm sorry, but I don't see this for the life of me. I too, only see my library. When I click the SETTINGS button, it only brings up UPDATE and HISTORY. No option for anything else. If there is more to this, please explain. I feel silly, because I'm a computer guy ;-), and I have a rooted phone with Macnut R14 on it.

If I am missing something, please advise. I desperately want to use this.

Tim

UPDATE

I finally discovered that there is more to just scrolling through the library when you launch the app. (tap the center of the screen after having opened up an app from the Library and you'll see that you can do more ;-)

AA7163

Roberst suggestion should work, I just forced the problem and tried this method and it is a much better solution than mine. But it probably will work best on android 2.2 and up.

Click the settings/options buttion when you are on your homescreen >>> click settings >>> Applications >>> All applications tab >>> download manager

Vic A. Russell

The app. downloaded with no problem on my G Slate. But the jump link to cross references did not display at all. Thank you for the great work so far.

Rodney Ducroq

How does one get the navigation bar on the samsung charge ..I get all the books but if I open eg. NASB - there is no easy navigation bar to find books - it opens but doesnt give me option window to go to another book...

Rodney Ducroq

Is it standard for pages to move from side to side instead of easy scrolling up and down through the passage