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Nice pic Richard.
I'm going to hold out for your home office though. This one is a bit too tidy for my emotional health.
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Thomas Black said:
This one is a bit too tidy for my emotional health.
I deliberately created mess in my study to make Thomas feel better. Normally mine is spotless [;)]
By the way, not a single dead-tree book you see in those pictures is yet available in Logos (apart from Holiness by Ryle, which I just spotted and added to my 'sell on Amazon' pile, and Goodwin volume 8 which is only in a set I can't afford).
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Mark Barnes said:
I deliberately created mess in my study to make Thomas feel better.
You are gracious as always Mark. [:D]
I can't quite claim that myself. I have numerous analog doubles. My fear is of power failures which can happen at the worst of times out here in the country. I have purchased a generator for backup, but then - well you have to put expensive gasoline in that thing.Mark Barnes said:By the way, not a single dead-tree book you see in those pictures is yet available in Logos
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Mark Barnes said:
I deliberately created mess in my study to make Thomas feel better. Normally mine is spotless
Nice keyboard, Mark. It looks like mine, only newer. Any trouble with carpal-tunnel?
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Kenneth Neighoff said:
Kenneth, is that a tablet to the right of your notebook? Also, interesting keyboard.
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Yes,
It is an IPad tablet using Vyrso, with Bible open.
At home I use an Acer Netbook.
The keyboard is designed to keep you from having wrist problems. My wife and kids hate it, so they stay away from my computer.
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Steve Johnson said:
Nice keyboard, Mark. It looks like mine, only newer. Any trouble with carpal-tunnel?
Yes, it's a Microsoft keyboard, and has completely solved my carpal-tunnel. It's obsolete now, the current model is the one Kenneth has (I've one of those at my other computer). Both are excellent.
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Mark Barnes said:
By the way, not a single dead-tree book you see in those pictures is yet available in Logos (apart from Holiness by Ryle, which I just spotted and added to my 'sell on Amazon' pile, and Goodwin volume 8 which is only in a set I can't afford).
Well, I see MacArthur's Ashamed of the Gospel on the top right shelf, and there's a Piper book (Future Grace? I can't be sure) at the top middle.
It looks like you recently picked up Justification and Variegated Nomism Tired of waiting for it in Logos?
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Kenneth Neighoff said:
Yes,
It is an IPad tablet using Vyrso, with Bible open.
At home I use an Acer Netbook.
The keyboard is designed to keep you from having wrist problems. My wife and kids hate it, so they stay away from my computer.
Hey Kenneth I see you have the same issue I had(have)
You've allowed Apple products (the iPad and iPod) to creep into your life, yet you still have a PC. How does iTunes run on your PC? The reason I ask is that once my iTunes collection became substantial enough I switched to Mac since iTunes ran so slowly on my PC. I've never looked back! (well maybe sometimes)
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Paul Newsome said:
Hey Kenneth I see you have the same issue I had(have)
You've allowed Apple products (the iPad and iPod) to creep into your life, yet you still have a PC. How does iTunes run on your PC? The reason I ask is that once my iTunes collection became substantial enough I switched to Mac since iTunes ran so slowly on my PC. I've never looked back! (well maybe sometimes)
Paul,
I only use ITunes on the PC to sync with the IPod and the IPad.
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Paul Newsome said:
Hey Kenneth I see you have the same issue I had(have)
You've allowed Apple products (the iPad and iPod) to creep into your life, yet you still have a PC. How does iTunes run on your PC? The reason I ask is that once my iTunes collection became substantial enough I switched to Mac since iTunes ran so slowly on my PC. I've never looked back! (well maybe sometimes)
My son moved from PC to Mac his last year of university studies. Any day I expect to hear him say, "Father, I have sinned against heaven in and your sight...."
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Steve Johnson said:
My son moved from PC to Mac his last year of university studies. Any day I expect to hear him say, "Father, I have sinned against heaven in and your sight...."
Of course, he first has to "come to his senses." Are you ready to welcome him back from the dark side to the PC realm? [H]
george
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Please help. How do I set up logos4 on my new ipad 2?
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Steve, I like your work area, including the cat on the far right who added a few key strokes to your sermon notes. [:O]
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If a cat who sleeps on books is a bibliocat, one who walks on keyboards might be a...
(...wait for it)
PC paw-er.
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You download the app. Search for Logos Bible Software and you will see the L4 logo and it will be called Bible +.Tangelia Burkett said:Please help. How do I set up logos4 on my new ipad 2?
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"Logos 4" does not run on the iPad. Logos does have an App, however, which I have linked to below. When you download the app, you will need to enter your email address and password associated with your Logos account. This will provide you with access to your "mobile ready" resources. Note: not all resources are available on mobile devices. It is up to individual publishers to allow Logos to provide this additional access to its customers.
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My cat (looks like yours), like sleeping right on the laptop keyboard -- mmmm, nice and warm.
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Ed W. Visser said:
My cat (looks like yours), like sleeping right on the laptop keyboard -- mmmm, nice and warm.
Famous quote. See http://icanhascheezburger.com/?s=made+of+warm
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Unfortunately, my cat prefers to pull the keys off the keyboard and chews the rubber backs.[:'(]
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Thanks so much. One more question, On the home page to logos 4, the article only showing three pages, instead in 7. How do I get the remaining pages?
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Tangelia Burkett said:
Thanks so much. One more question, On the home page to logos 4, the article only showing three pages, instead in 7. How do I get the remaining pages?
Noticed Dave Hooton responded to your question in a different thread => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/7879/263465.aspx#263465
Wiki has http://wiki.logos.com/Using_the_Forum with many tips for online forum discussion.
By the way, your Home Page question could have been one new post (instead of replying to 2 different discussion threads with same question).
Keep Smiling [:)]
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James, I am very tempted to covet when I see your three-monitor spread, but I noticed "SELF-CONTROL" defined on the leftmost one when I zoomed in, so I will restrain myself and not go out and buy two more. Actually, I do already have a second monitor, but it is in use right now as the display for my old XP machine, which I still use once in a bue moon. When I retire it for good I will set up a second monitor on my Windows 7 system, and that will be sweet.
For now I comfort myself with the fact that I'm posting this from 30,000 feet in the air on my Asus Eee Pad Transformer via the wonders of in-flight Wi-Fi. Will post a photo of my working desktop when I get home.
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Todd Phillips said:
Well, I see MacArthur's Ashamed of the Gospel on the top right shelf, and there's a Piper book (Future Grace? I can't be sure) at the top middle.
It looks like you recently picked up Justification and Variegated Nomism Tired of waiting for it in Logos?
I knew someone would take that statement as a challenge! Both books now duly removed!! Thanks! I'm actually working my way around the room, cataloguing everything double-checking it against my Logos library. I'm about three quarters of the way round, and the two bookcases with the offending items haven't been done yet.
I'd held off buying Justification and Variegated Nomism for years, but I couldn't wait any longer. It's a bit disappointing because I'm sure it will come out in Logos eventually, so it will end up costing me more. I'm really enjoying it though.
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So I was sitting in my professor's office on Monday and his bookshelves, full of books, wrapped around the entire room. As I looked at some of the more familiar spines I kept thinking to myself "Thats is Logos, thats in Logos, Thats in Logos..." As someone who has not necessarily met the prime of his, God willing, pastoral ministry could it be possible that an office I may assume one day may look drastically different than his did? I use seminary professor and book crazed pastor interchangably.
Logos and digital books in general could bust this stereotype right open!
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Paul Newsome said:
could it be possible that an office I may assume one day may look drastically different than his did?
We've got a long way to go. Only two-thirds of my library is electronic, and when you consider that a reasonably portion of my Logos library are resources I may not have bought if they weren't part of a collection, then probably only half of my most useful library is electronic. I estimate probably 80% of my commentaries and reference works are in Logos, but perhaps only 20% of my monographs.
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Mark Barnes said:
I estimate probably 80% of my commentaries and reference works are in Logos, but perhaps only 20% of my monographs.
I hope I get that high [:(] But I'll admit that I wouldn't have the full set of Anchor, Hermeneia and Forms of Old Testament Literature if it weren't for Logos[:D] And the person who received my partial sets is very happy too.
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I need a clean desk or I can't work. It seems from this thread that if you are a logos user, you are going to have at least 2 monitors. I know I decided I needed a second one as soon as I got logos.
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Austin Anderson said:
I need a clean desk or I can't work. It seems from this thread that if you are a logos user, you are going to have at least 2 monitors. I know I decided I needed a second one as soon as I got logos.
Austin, I like your improvised notebook stand. I'm using two clothespins connected by a chopstick at the office.
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Austin Anderson said:
I need a clean desk or I can't work. It seems from this thread that if you are a logos user, you are going to have at least 2 monitors. I know I decided I needed a second one as soon as I got logos.
I've managed with only one monitor for many years and don't anticipate getting a second. I think <alt-tab> is sufficient.
george
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Tangelia Burkett said:
Thanks so much. One more question, On the home page to logos 4, the article only showing three pages, instead in 7. How do I get the remaining pages?
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If I understand your question, you are saying that the "welcome page" has "only" 3 pages. One thing to keep in mind is that various monitors will display more or less pages. Also, If you make your window smaller, it will increase the number of "pages." This does not increase or decrease the amount of content - just the number of "pages" that content is displayed on.
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This room is the heart of my operations and between these two computers I have 3 Terabytes of storage that hold every sermon, Sunday school lesson, bulletin article and song that I have used in the past 7 years. The computer on the right is actually a file server that mirrors the files on computer on the left. There is also about 10 years of photos on both. Both systems are backed up to a cloud service. The initial backup took over a week for each one.
When I am working at the church office I use my laptop and have remote access that enables me to use all programs and files on my main system. I have a flash drive that holds all of my current working files (also backed up to the cloud).
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Bob,Bob Schlessman said:This room is the heart of my operations and between these two computers I have 3 Terabytes of storage that hold every sermon, Sunday school lesson, bulletin article and song that I have used in the past 7 years. The computer on the right is actually a file server that mirrors the files on computer on the left. There is also about 10 years of photos on both. Both systems are backed up to a cloud service. The initial backup took over a week for each one.
you're one of the few people I know who take backups seriously. Congratulations or commiserations on that depending on your take.
Like you, I have mirroring and backup all over the place. All five of my household computers (self, wife, kids) are set to mirror my files when I log onto them once a week or so. I have a NAS set to Full RAID mirror which houses a local copy. And I have mirrored everything into the cloud instantly (as soon as I hit save on a document that copy get's mirrored and stored. I keep a permanent copy of my entire ministry documents folder synced to my Blackberry, every time I plug it in a backup runs to bring that up to date.
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OK, here's mine, without doing any decluttering (there's hardly room for any clutter on my desk since it's so filled up with hardware, but it does manage to get more cluttered than this from time to time -- Diet Coke bottles strewn around, piles of books and paper on top of the keyboard on the left, etc.):
My main machine, the "mongo computer" running Windows 7 which I normally run Logos on, is the one on the right. The one on the left is my old XP machine which I rarely turn on anymore, except to figure out how something used to work in XP to help someone who is still using it.
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OK. Here's my desk at home. I hope it's a little more to your liking, Thomas. [:P]
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Thomas Black said:
Bob,
you're one of the few people I know who take backups seriously. Congratulations or commiserations on that depending on your take.
I agree with you on the importance of multiple backups Thomas. I firmly believe that one can't have too many. I learned the hard way about twenty years ago when I lost one extremely valuable file for my wife's home business and didn't have a backup. (She still reminds me of that on occasion [;)]) As far as I can recall it is also the only file I ever lost that I was not able to recover from a backup.
Just out of curiosity, what cloud backup service do you use. I use Crashplan. For $12.00 a month I have unlimited space available for an unlimited number of computers. It also handles the backups between my computers. It all happens behind the scenes and I see no noticable impact on performance. There are, of course many good cloud services out there but this is the one that seemed to have the most flexibility. Definitely a small price to pay for peace of mind.
Blessings,
Bob
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Thomas Black said:
Bob,
you're one of the few people I know who take backups seriously.
Congratulations or commiserations on that depending on your take.I am wanting to take backups more seriously because I've had a couple of failures and was only able to recover to a certain point sometimes several weeks prior to when the crash took place, or one time I had to shell out big bucks to have a forensic data recovery shop recover most of the data from my very seriously crashed hard disk through a painstaking process.
Bob Schlessman said:I use Crashplan. For $12.00 a month I have unlimited space available for an unlimited number of computers. It also handles the backups between my computers.
How come you're paying $12/mo for it? They advertise the highest level plan as $6/mo for unlimited space for up to 10 computers.
Is anyone concerned about backup services that don't ever delete files that you seriously want to eradicate every trace of permanently? Is there a way to force it to wipe a backup file from its records?
Also I'm still kind of nervous about using cloud services for backup. I know the redundancy means I'd have access to it at home too, on an external drive, in case my Internet connection was down when I wanted to restore from the backup. But what if I have stuff that I'm so wary about having out there on some company's server -- my financial information, etc.? Is there a way to control the granularity of backups so that very private files get backed up only to my local external hard disk (and trusted family network) and other ones get backed up to the cloud?
Another concern: I'm currently using Windows' built-in backup facility and it's not working for me because it stores multiple backup points and has eventually filled up my entire external hard disk with all this redundancy. How does one manage the space taken up by backups?
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My perspective is a bit different. I don't trust backups that are not off-site (not in my house) and preferably not on the same earth-quake fault line or tsunami coast, Anything short of that is for my psychological not real safety.
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Rosie Perera said:Bob Schlessman said:
I use Crashplan. For $12.00 a month I have unlimited space available for an unlimited number of computers. It also handles the backups between my computers.
How come you're paying $12/mo for it? They advertise the highest level plan as $6/mo for unlimited space for up to 10 computers.
Rosie,
It's $6.00 per month if you pay for 4 years up front. It is pro-rated depending on how far in advance you pay. After you click on the "Buy Now" link they give you the complete price breakdown. I use the month to month plan because it fits my budget the best - thus $12.00 per month. Still a very low cost insurance policy.
Rosie Perera said:Is there a way to control the granularity of backups so that very private files get backed up only to my local external hard disk (and trusted family network) and other ones get backed up to the cloud?
With Crashplan you can easily create backup sets and control what files go where. It gives you full control over it. I have certain files that i only back up internally and not to the cloud.
Rosie Perera said:Another concern: I'm currently using Windows' built-in backup facility and it's not working for me because it stores multiple backup points and has eventually filled up my entire external hard disk with all this redundancy. How does one manage the space taken up by backups?
Crashplan allows you to set how often deleted files are removed. You can also tell it how long to keep backups.
It is a very customizable backup service/program. It also sends me weekly reports on what has been backed up and when. If a computer is not backed up (for example it has been turned off for several days) Crashplan will send you an email warning you. I switched to it when I realized the WIndows 7 backup feature was inadequate for my purposes. They have an excellent forum to help newcomers as well. There is a version that is free to use if you don't backup to the cloud. Give it a try. I don't think you will be disappointed.
Blessings,
Bob
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Bob Schlessman said:
I use Crashplan. For $12.00 a month I have unlimited space available for an unlimited number of computers. It also handles the backups between my computers.
Why not use Carbonite ? -- it's only $59/yr and you can get it for less if you mention Rush (and a 15 day free trial). That's less than $5 / mo.
george
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Thanks Bob, that's all very helpful info.
Bob Schlessman said:Rosie Perera said:Is there a way to control the granularity of backups so that very private files get backed up only to my local external hard disk (and trusted family network) and other ones get backed up to the cloud?
With Crashplan you can easily create backup sets and control what files go where. It gives you full control over it. I have certain files that i only back up internally and not to the cloud.
Will try it out when I have some time. One other little question, not that this would be a deal-breaker if it's otherwise really good: Does the backup set creation tool let you specify files with wildcards (e.g., all my *.doc files in such-and-such a folder, plus everything in all subfolders of some-other folder, including any new subfolders I might create there in the future), or do I have to keep adding new folders and files to it when I create ones that I now want to add to my backup set?
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CrashPlan is awesome. The best features (IMO) are:
- You can specify multiple backup locations (e.g. local, network drive and cloud).
- You can do continuous backup (as soon as a file is written and released by another app it will get backed up).
- And - and this is the killer feature - you can backup to a friends computer if they're running CrashPlan. That gives you really cheap offsite storage.
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Mark Barnes said:
you can backup to a friends computer if they're running CrashPlan. That gives you really cheap offsite storage.
And what friend of mine is going to happen to have a spare 300 GB on their computer? And how reliable is a friend's computer as offsite storage? Vulnerable to crashes of its own, software issues, etc. It had better be an extremely tech savvy friend who is going to keep their machine in good working order and have a couple of external hard drives connected to it and functioning with 95% uptime.
Actually I probably do have one or two friends (who run their own email servers) who might be able to provide that service for me, but they're not necessarily people I'd trust with backing up my sensitive financial data, so I'd still opt to do that only on a local external hard drive. Seems like it could end up being a lot of work to pick and choose what gets backed up where and keep those backup sets up-to-date.
Still, I'm quite intrigued by all your strong recommendations of CrashPlan, and am going to download the free version and give it a whirl when I get some time.
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Bob Schlessman said:
it stores multiple backup points and has eventually filled up my entire external hard disk with all this redundancy
It's worth mentioning that Crash only stores the changed part of files, which is awesome when you want to backup multiple versions of the same file.
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You're gonna spit out your coffee.... I use a combination of dropbox and Live Mesh. However, I'm sold on SOS backup after doing all my own digging around. Just need to write the check so to speak.Bob Schlessman said:Just out of curiosity, what cloud backup service do you use.
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I believe SOSonlinebackup has a way of permanently deleting files you no longer want.Rosie Perera said:Is anyone concerned about backup services that don't ever delete files that you seriously want to eradicate every trace of permanently? Is there a way to force it to wipe a backup file from its records?
Get another software solution. Windows backup is bare nuggets as far as I'm concerned. At least it's a backup solution though! I'm currently using the one built into my Antivirus package (Kaspersky) but it has a similar shortcoming so I'm on the hunt again.Rosie Perera said:Another concern: I'm currently using Windows' built-in backup facility and it's not working for me because it stores multiple backup points and has eventually filled up my entire external hard disk with all this redundancy. How does one manage the space taken up by backups?
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Seriously, CrashPlan is terrific as a free solution, too. http://www.crashplan.com/consumer/compare.html
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