Logos 4 and Indexing

When I went to bed last night the estimated indexing time remaining was about 15 hours. I left the Mac running over night. This morning the estimated indexing time remaining is still around 15 hours. I have a MacBook Pro 2.53GHz with 4GB of RAM. I also installed the Windows version of Logos 4 on my Mac using Parallels. That was done indexing before I went to bed last night. I'll see if the Mac version is done indexing when I get home from work today.

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tjebme

Same experience with my MacPro (2.66GHz Quad-Core 8GB RAM). Estimated time to complete eight hours ago was a little over 15 hours. Eight hours later I'm down to an estimated time to complete of 14:40. The Windows version on this Mac finished indexing around 12 hours ago.

DominicM

it was a bad dream... you can wake up now... [;)]

Sounds like the icon hasn't refeshed itself to me, low memory/hdd space can also slow the indexer up

Randy Hardwick

Mine has been showing "0:01 remaining" for the past 6 hours. I am a little over 20 hours into the process now. Kind of frustrating not knowing whether it is actually still indexing or whether something has frozen. I called support and they were no help.

J.R. Miller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/26976#Comment_26976

POST IN WRONG FORUM. SORRY.

J.R. Miller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/27117#Comment_27117

POST IN WRONG FORUM. SORRY.

Todd Bowditch

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/26976#Comment_26976

Randy,

Mine is doing the same. Has your's finished indexing yet?

J.R. Miller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/27140#Comment_27140

My apologies, my post were supposed to be in the Mac Alpha, not 1.0.

R. Mansfield

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/27163#Comment_27163

If you want to really see something scary, open up the Activity Monitor and check out Logos4Indexing (separate from the Logos 4 program itself). It's really keeping the CPU revved (explaining why my fans have been kicking on more often over the past couple of days). CPU percentage goes up OVER 100% at times. I don't understand that, but okay. I was editing video this morning and had to simply disable it even though after two days, I've yet to get a full index or download of files (I think there's something like 4 GB remaining).

tjebme

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/26899#Comment_26899

Mac version had stopped indexing by the time I got home. I'm guessing the all in indexing time was at least 36 hours.

Bryan Heller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/27565#Comment_27565

This is all quite exciting to have the privilege to experiment with the Alpha release. Thank you, Team Logos.

Has anyone who has patiently waited for the downloading and indexing tried the program? What is it like? What features have you been able to play around with effectively?

J.R. Miller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/27860#Comment_27860

still indexing, but here is what I have seen so far

http://community.logos.com/forums/t/3388.aspx

Bryan Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/27921#Comment_27921

Downloaded last night. Indexing only took 5 hours. Haven't had much time to play but what I did it crashed both times. Still exciting though.

Bryan Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/29176#Comment_29176

Opps! Restarted Logos. Indexing again. 5:12 remaining. AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want to play!

Ryan Schildroth

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/29179#Comment_29179

I've been struggling with the indexing process as well. I have started it two times. Each time I left my computer to do what it needed to do. When I came back the icon in the menu bar was gone, which I thought meant the process was complete. Each time it started over again when I tried to launch Logos 4. Any ideas on what I can do? I'd love to try the program!

MacBook, Intel Core2 Duo, 2.0GHz, 3GB RAM

Pat Soliday

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/33511#Comment_33511

Maybe I just don't understand the indexing process but it seems to me that Logos can save a lot of people a lot time by shipping (or downloading) a pre-indexed file along with the resource that it references. What am I missing here?

spitzerpl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/35205#Comment_35205

Maybe I just don't understand the indexing process but it seems to me that Logos can save a lot of people a lot time by shipping (or downloading) a pre-indexed file along with the resource that it references. What am I missing here?

the problem is they would have to do a custom index for all 700,000+ users. The index isn't simply your base package order but all the other things your have ordered in the past as well.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/35209#Comment_35209

The technology exists in information storage & retrieval circles where one can have an individual index for each resource to initially speed up queries over raw searches of text. In the background over time, the master index can be built my merging these smaller indices. Eventually, the master index will be complete. Using this approach, searches will begin slowly (though faster than raw searching) and will speed up over time. There are several data structures in the literature that make this more efficient in time and space.

Using this method, Logos could build indices for each resource as part of the distribution of those resources. The engine then slowly builds the master index in the background. The user would need to know that their searches won't be "lightning" fast until the overall indexing is complete, but it gets them going right after installation (instead of waiting for several hours).

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/35209#Comment_35209

I was under the impression that at least on the DVD the idea was to ship L4 collections with the index for that collection intact as a starting point. Additional books would be added to the "new book" index and all could be merged/reindexed at the user's discretion.

No?

spitzerpl

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/35226#Comment_35226

I was under the impression that at least on the DVD the idea was to ship L4 collections with the index for that collection intact as a starting point. Additional books would be added to the "new book" index and all could be merged/reindexed at the user's discretion.

No?

could very well be.

J.R. Miller

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/35205#Comment_35205

Maybe I just don't understand the indexing process but it seems to me that Logos can save a lot of people a lot time by shipping (or downloading) a pre-indexed file along with the resource that it references. What am I missing here?

I belive this is the plan once Logos rebuilds the books. Each basic package will ship pre-indexed and with books on a DVD. At least this was the impression I got from Bob during the windows Beta process.

John A. Murphy, Jr.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/35305#Comment_35305

My indexing after downloading Mac Engine for "Logos 4 Alpha release 3" had taken 9 hours before I went to bed. Was done this morning at 4am when I awoke and check the computer. (What else do you do when you wake up in the middle of the night).

However, I don't have a home page that shows anything in the mac version, no reading plans, and several of my other areas show "no view exists for this panel kind." Which is disappointing - and poor English besides. :-)

Donovan R. Palmer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/36843#Comment_36843

However, I don't have a home page that shows anything in the mac version, no reading plans, and several of my other areas show "no view exists for this panel kind." Which is disappointing - and poor English besides. :-)

The home page is blank on Alpha 3. You can, under certain circumstances, load saved layouts created in L4 Windows. You can also load a resource or two, though it often crashes when I try to load the second resource from the library manager.

Timothy Yeung

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/26901#Comment_26901

It is now the third day, it still says another 14 hours to go. The computer has been turned 24 hours a day for the last 3 days. So.........

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/37650#Comment_37650

It is now the third day, it still says another 14 hours to go. The computer has been turned 24 hours a day for the last 3 days. So.........

Timothy

How many resources do you have? When I terminated indexing after 12 hours and sent a log file to Logos, I learned that the indexer had completed 28% of my 2400+ resources. The more you have, the longer indexing will take. The Estimated Time Remaining appears to be meaningless—perhaps it lets you know that the indexer is still at work, but the time indication has no relation to reality. My indexer has been running for about 24 hours, and Activity Monitor shows that it is still chugging away with a file that has now reached 2 GB.

I was probably Logos' most severe critic from the beginning of Logos Mac, but over the years, I have come to believe that the light at the end of the tunnel is not the headlight of an oncoming train!

Jack

Mike Melloy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/37918#Comment_37918

For what it's worth... I decided to upgrade to L4 on my "older" tablet PC so that I could create a useful environment that would sync with my Mac. It took longer to index my library (around 1300 resources) on the PC than it did on my MacBook! I guess the net is... it's worth the wait.

Mike.