Visual Filter for Greek Conditional Classes
OK, can someone smarter than me (both in use of Logos and in Greek grammar) help me figure out how to create a visual filter that identifies if...then statements as 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th class conditionals and applies a highlight to each? I assume this is possible?
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It seems that the best way to do this may be to create a morphological visual filter. Set the search parameter to @CAC (conjunction, adverbial conditional). Then just select the highlight style you want.
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You need to identify a Morphological search query, but you cannot truly distinguish all cases as they require the context. From a quick look at Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics I get this:
First & Second class ---> εἰ (Conj. conditional) + Verb Indicative [not sure how to distinguish truth from untruth].
Fourth Class ---> εἰ (Conj. conditional) + Verb Optative
Third Class ----> ἐὰν (Conj. conditional) + Verb Subjunctive
e.g. lemma:εἰ@CAC BEFORE 6 words @V??I
Dave
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I agree with Dave - you will need to determine which specific conditional class each occurrence represents. The filter cannot do that for you.
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For grins, did a Bible Search of all passages in Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament (LDGNT) for
<LDGNT = Conditional Frame>
Found some conditional frames in 2 Pet 2:4-8, then looked in Cascadia Syntax Graphs to see 2 Pet 2:4-10 is one Greek sentence (with a complex 1st / 2nd class condition).
Dave Hooton said:From a quick look at Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics I get this:
First & Second class ---> εἰ (Conj. conditional) + Verb Indicative [not sure how to distinguish truth from untruth].
Fourth Class ---> εἰ (Conj. conditional) + Verb Optative
Third Class ----> ἐὰν (Conj. conditional) + Verb Subjunctive
Looking at Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics footnotes, found references to James L Boyer articles in Grace Theological Journal (1981-1983) that include First and Second Class verse lists, so visual filter could be built for each class using a passage list.
Logos offers Grace Theological Journal (12 vols.) that is included in the Theological Journal Library: Volumes 1-10 collection.
Keep Smiling [:)]
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so visual filter could be built for each class using a passage list.
Have you gotten this to work recently?
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Dave Hooton said:
First & Second class ---> εἰ (Conj. conditional) + Verb Indicative [not sure how to distinguish truth from untruth].
Yes, that's the problem I ran into, which is why I stopped and asked for help. I'm glad to see that I was on the right track and that my inability to figure out how to distinguish between First & Second class wasn't just a result of lack of knowledge or understanding. [:)]
Thanks for the help! [:)]
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Looking at Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics footnotes, found references to James L Boyer articles in Grace Theological Journal (1981-1983) that include First and Second Class verse lists, so visual filter could be built for each class using a passage list.
Logos offers Grace Theological Journal (12 vols.) that is included in the Theological Journal Library: Volumes 1-10 collection.
Hmmm...I'll have to look into that. Thanks KS4J [:)]
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MJ. Smith said:
To highlight Matthew 11:21 in ESV, needed to modify Dave's search suggestion a bit (more English words between if and indicative verb):
Keep Smiling [:)]
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This is old but just in case someone stumbles on this through a search you can now use a search method. It does not address the visual filter.
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