Buying software for national pastor
Logos has been such a wonderful tool for myself as a pastor here in the states. A group from our church (including myself) have returned from a missions trip to South America and we would like to purchase Logos for the national pastor as a gift. The problem is that I'm worried over the hardware requirements of Logos 4. I've looked all over for a version 3 Spanish package but have come up with nothing.
Could I buy a Logos 4 package and then down grade to version 3? I know whatever I do I will have to have everything on cd/dvd because I know that there internet is very slow and very spotty. I'm not in contact with the pastor and will be sending anything down with another group this fall.
What does Logos do about international sales to groups that are behind the latest technological eight ball?
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John,
I agree that Logos 3 would be your better gift. I think you should call sales to discuss what options would be available. I hope you can work something out.
Nelson still seems to be producing some packages in Logos 3, with CD/DVD media included if the Logos direct approach doesn't work.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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If you purchase Logos 4, then most (not quite all) resources will also work with Logos 3. You should still be able to purchase a Logos 3 DVD from Logos for a nominal $5, though it doesn't seem to be listed on their website any more, and you'd need to check it included Spanish resources. It would be best to contact Logos directly to confirm.
If it doesn't exist any more, let us know, and we can suggest a work-around.
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On Amazon I found Biblioteca Académica Bilingüe and the box looks different than the on on Logos site, it has the Newer magnifying glass with cross but at the bottom it has the compatible with libronix. I'm assuming that it is an older version. Is it fair to assume that it is version 3. On a kind of related note, what year did logos go from version 2 to 3 and then to 4?
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Okay I talked to sales and all they have is Logos 4 and said that I couldn't get a version 3 resource cd/dvd. Here is a link to the amazon one for sales, could someone tell me if this is version 3 or 4? http://www.amazon.com/Logos-Bible-Software-Biblioteca-Acad%C3%A9mica/dp/B000Z4TG7O/?pf_rd_mnb=ATVPDKIKX0D34&pf_rd_stb=center-2&pf_rd_rat=0817NMRY4ZRQZM6P18TH&pf_rd_t3r=101&pf_rd_ptd=470938631&pf_rd_ied=507846&tag=buaazs-20&pf_rd_ptd=470938631&pf_rd_ied=507846
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Mark what would be a possible work around?
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John ... on the Amazon, the little blue symbol (magnifying glass) means Logos4. If it has a red rectangle, then it's Libronix3 (as you probably know).
If I were trying to do this for myself, and Mark will know more, I'd download the Libronix version g software. Then I'd FTP-download the related resources. That's AFTER I bought the Logos4 version, installed it with a log-on etc. Then I'd make a simple install disk and add instructions (or install it on the gentleman's computer if available).
The Amazon example 'looks' like it might already do this (having both a blue and red logo). I'd buy the Amazon version. But again, get Mark's input.
I know this sounds pretty nutty. But it illustrates (as I've said MANY times) ... that people are locked into Bob's dreams. Their library is his library. Even their proposed library is his library (ditto for any other software reader that's format-specific).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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This just seems sort of crazy. I have been to the ftp site and there are so many resources I wouldn't even know what to download (plus the size would take a long time) but I would be willing to try what I have to get this national pastor these resources.
I was also thinking that doesn't version 4 lose some functionality when not online. I know his internet is spotty at best and incredibly slow when on.
Any other help would be greatly appreciated. I'm computer literate enough that if you spell out what I need to do I should be able to do it.
Who would have thought that doing good would be so hard.
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John,
Unless you get lucky on that auction site and find a copy in L3 format there, you are discovering that Logos supports L3 but does not sell it. Until Logos withdrew distribution of its product from other retailers it was possible occasionally to find an older product in a store somewhere. That has dried up.
In this case the only option would seem to be to create a set of discs with the data that would be there if an L3 disc was available as Denise mentioned. That means finding and downloading the right files from the ftp site and burning a disc, then purchasing the license from Logos for Logos 4 using the national pastor's email address.
One potential problem I can see is what we called Addins in L3. Not sure where those that should have been included in a certain level of L3 package can be found.
I agree that this is more difficult than you probably wanted and for that reason is probably a game changer. Frustrating.
I am assuming that you want the Spanish language version of Logos, so one last thought is to post on the Logos Spanish forum and ask if anyone knows if there is a source or has an older copy of the library you are looking for: http://community.logos.com/forums/65.aspx
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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John Tabor said:
Mark what would be a possible work around?
The work around would involve installing Logos 3 on your own computer, using a fast internet connection, and getting all the resources up-to-date. You could then copy onto DVD the install folder and the resources folder from your Logos 3 installation. That would allow you to very significantly reduce the amount of data that would need to downloaded when you installed it properly.
If you want, I can give you steps to do this, although I can't guarantee that it will be 100% problem-free, and you'll probably still need to download some things (like the add-ins mentioned earlier). You'll need to have made a purchase before the steps will work.
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Mark Smith said:
One potential problem I can see is what we called Addins in L3.
I found a folder with a zip file of the Logos3.0g software on the ftp site that includes all you need for installation including the addins. I don't know if the 3.0g installer by itself will include these, so that zip file might be what is needed for that: ftp://ftp.logos.com/ldls/Zip/ it is the third file listed.
This does not solve the resources issue.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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John ... if it's any consolation (and this IS my own opinion), you'd be wiser to do it the hard way anyway. The gentleman will eventually end up with a nicer computer, and he'd be already set up for Logos4. Plus he'll have a backup (Libronix3) that can operate in pretty shaky environments for the future.
Another thought; I'd assume the problem being addressed here isn't unique. After setting up a disk as described, you could freely copy it for others (with them purchasing the licenses from Logos). My brother in law works in Venda (not spanish but same problem); I wouldn't dream of suggesting L4 there.
A while back I was looking at the spanish versions out of curiousity; from what I saw, the file names are predictable (spanish).
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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John Tabor said:
Logos has been such a wonderful tool for myself as a pastor here in the states. A group from our church (including myself) have returned from a missions trip to South America and we would like to purchase Logos for the national pastor as a gift. The problem is that I'm worried over the hardware requirements of Logos 4. I've looked all over for a version 3 Spanish package but have come up with nothing.
Could I buy a Logos 4 package and then down grade to version 3? I know whatever I do I will have to have everything on cd/dvd because I know that there internet is very slow and very spotty. I'm not in contact with the pastor and will be sending anything down with another group this fall.
What does Logos do about international sales to groups that are behind the latest technological eight ball?
You do know that Logos has a dedicated sales and support for Spanish speakers, right?
Have you considered having this discussion with them? I'm sure you aren't the first to raise these questions. You can call their 800 number and ask for Spanish language sales, or email them at serviciotecnico@logos.com
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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John Tabor said:
Okay I talked to sales and all they have is Logos 4 and said that I couldn't get a version 3 resource cd/dvd. Here is a link to the amazon one for sales, could someone tell me if this is version 3 or 4?
The link you have features a Libronix 3 boxed product. I think you can do better on the price.
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Richard, I did call Spanish sales and they basically said I need to buy logos 4 as they no longer sell version 4 and they are strongly suggesting everyone upgrade. So no help there.
Super Tramp, I thought it was a libronix 3 but was thrown off by the blue magnifying lens logo which to me indicates Logos 4. I did ask the sales lady and she told me it was probably version 4. As far as price goes this is the best price I can find. I obviously don't need the bilingual part but $300 for the "Academica" is $100 cheaper than on Logos' site. If you could point me in the right direction for a cheaper price please do. We have $300 budgeted for this project and I want to be a wise steward and get be best bang for the buck. I could get the pastor's edition for 250 but if I can get a bigger package within our budget then the blessing gets bigger.
Mark, I don't mind doing what I have to do. When I was with this young pastor (a man in his early 20's) I was shocked at the very limited resources he had. Recently someone gave him a one volume commentary and you would have thought you had given him a brick of gold. I came home and almost felt ashamed of the shelves full of books in my office and the fact I have the silver package on my computer. (Actually most of the funds for this purchase is from money I have saved up to upgrade to gold). How can I not do what I can. Not only will this enrich his studying but also nourish his flock. I have libronix 3 on my computer already and it is up to date so I could copy files.
Could someone please confirm 100% that the Amazon link is version 3. Would buying a verion 3 now and the the crossgrade dvd be an option. How be it a more expensive option.
Thanks so much for your help[:D]
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"I thought it was a libronix 3 but was thrown off by the
blue magnifying lens logo which to me indicates Logos 4. I did ask the
sales lady and she told me it was probably version 4."The sales person mentioned was from Logos.
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John Tabor said:
Richard, I did call Spanish sales and they basically said I need to buy logos 4 as they no longer sell version 4 and they are strongly suggesting everyone upgrade. So no help there.
Sorry, I missed that above. It's there.
Next thought: Have you considered buying a laptop that meets L4's minimal specs, install Logos4 on it and gift the whole thing to the pastor? You could probably buy one for $400-$600. I realize you may need to deal with import duties as well (amount and circumstances varies widely from country to country), but L4 runs pretty well on my older Dell Inspiron (not fast, but adequate). It would probably be necessary to have someone hand-carry it, but missionaries are traveling to and from countries all the time (and know the laws and practices regarding import duties).
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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I have to jump in late on this thread.
But knowing many national pastors, helping them with their computer problems, etc.
I think Logos 4 is NOT designed at all for my spanish speaking friends.
Libronix from the American Bible Society still sells the CompuBiblia http://www.bibles.com/products/ABS_NEW/113026.aspx
This is the best choice for the pastor with out a high speed internet account.
Tom
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Tom Rach said:
Libronix from the American Bible Society still sells the CompuBiblia http://www.bibles.com/products/ABS_NEW/113026.aspx
Wow, this is good to know. I hope they can continue to offer this.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Tom thanks for jumping in. I saw the package you referred to and it is logos 2.1 right? I know the price is right but how does this compare to version 3, not only in the interface (if I remember right 2.1 reminded me of e-sword which isn't a problem) but as far as resources and tools.
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John Tabor said:
I saw the package you referred to and it is logos 2.1 right?
If it is, there should be no problem. If you include an installation disc with the Libronix 3.0g engine on it the resources that are in 2.1 format would still work. The pastor might have to install from the original disc if an unlock is required. Then he could run the 3.0g install to update the software engine. He would still not have some of the addins which only were unlocked through purchasing them separately or through a library purchase, but should still be able to do alot.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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John, I believe it is libronix (vs 3).
I found that my Mexican friends could handle logos 2.
Libronix (Logos 3) interface is easy to run, not to much of a HOG when it is put on a slow machine.
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This is a very good basic product that works.
Traducciones y versiones de la Biblia:
- Reina Valera 95, edición de estudio con diccionario
- Spanish RV95 Study Bible
- Español Dios habla hoy, edición interconfesional de estudio (Castellano Peninsular)
- Spanish Popular version- Also a study bible.
- Inglés Contemporary English Version
- Inglés King James Versión
- Inglés King James Versión Apocrypha
- Hebreo Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia ? Texto Hebreo del Antiguo Testamento
- Griego Nestle Aland ? Texto Griego del Nuevo Testamento
- Griego Septuaginta
- Latín Sacra Vulgata
- Portugués Almeida Revista Actualizada
- Y mucho mas.
Libros de Referencia:
- Nuevo Comentario Bíblico Siglo Veintiuno
- Bible Comentary
- Guía para el Estudio del Griego del Nuevo Testamento
- Greek Study Guide.
- Guía para el Estudio del Hebreo Bíblico
- Hebrew Study Guide
- Concordancia Manual y Diccionario Griego-Español del Nuevo Testamento
- Léxico hebreo-español y arameo-español
- Significado y diversidad cultural
- Atlas Bíblico
- Y mucho mas.
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Tom I believe their church uses a 1960 edition of the bible. I'm really leaning towards a the version 3 on Amazon. Tom you said that version 3 works okay for these nationals without internet.
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Tom just checked my email [:D]
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Tom Rach said:
I have to jump in late on this thread.
But knowing many national pastors, helping them with their computer problems, etc.
I think Logos 4 is NOT designed at all for my spanish speaking friends.
Libronix from the American Bible Society still sells the CompuBiblia http://www.bibles.com/products/ABS_NEW/113026.aspx
This is the best choice for the pastor with out a high speed internet account.
Tom
Email me at thodrach at hot mail dot com for more practical advice from some one living in the sticks.
EDIT Just found it on Logos (SORRY GUYS) http://www.logos.com/es/producto/9656/compubiblia
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This is the logos version still in libronix.
http://www.logos.com/es/producto/9656/compubiblia Compubliblia[Y]
http://www.logos.com/es/producto/8955/biblioteca-de-estudio-biblico Estudio[Y]
http://www.logos.com/es/producto/8956/biblioteca-pastoral Pastoral [Y][Y][Y]
Use one of the links to buy the libronix version. You can get it on cd or dvd or download.
I have found it pays to not call sales!
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Tom Rach said:
This is the logos version still in libronix.
http://www.logos.com/es/producto/9656/compubiblia Compubliblia
http://www.logos.com/es/producto/8955/biblioteca-de-estudio-biblico Estudio
http://www.logos.com/es/producto/8956/biblioteca-pastoral Pastoral
Use one of the links to buy the libronix version. You can get it on cd or dvd or download.
Tom, unless I am missing something these are Logos 4 packages.
Note the following:
Also in the product listing there are three datasets only available in Logos 4:
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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John Tabor said:
Tom you said that version 3 works okay for these nationals without internet.
Yep with a cd, a jump stick to give them the update licence file, they are up and running!
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Mark, you are right on the bottom two, but it seem that the top is still libronix.
Also, as you know, if the download option is picked, the user can just run the scrip and update their licences and download the books in the libronix program.
Or I can be mixed up again, it wont be the last time.
Tom
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Tom,
The first one says:
So with a call supposedly you can get version 3. It's worth the call to find out.
Correct about the download option. I don't know if a collection like this has a script to download the resources or whether you'd have run the Libronix resources update script to get them to download. after Libronix is installed and the license file is created. But either way, if John wanted to go that route and create a DVD with the results that would save the national pastor from having to do that over a slow connection.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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Mark Smith said:
But either way, if John wanted to go that route and create a DVD with the results that would save the national pastor from having to do that over a slow connection.
Yep, I would go for a Logos DVD or a Home made DVD made out of the downloads.
There is always the problems of downloading the spanish version of the program first, got to look for the right link.
Also if the program could be activated before sending it down south, that would also make things better for the pastor.
Thanks Mark for setting us straight.
Tom
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Okay if I end up with a version 4 what do I have to do to make a version 3 equivalent?
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John Tabor said:
Okay if I end up with a version 4 what do I have to do to make a version 3 equivalent?
If you buy it off of the web site, down load version, it will be fairly easy.[:D]
If you have a physical DVD, it is a little harder to explain.[:(]
Have you bought things from the Logos site before? Are you familiar with the order page etc?
Tom
Note: I am also trusting someone like Mark can give us a hand when the time comes![:D]
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Tom Rach said:Mark Smith said:
But either way, if John wanted to go that route and create a DVD with the results that would save the national pastor from having to do that over a slow connection.
Yep, I would go for a Logos DVD or a Home made DVD made out of the downloads.
Of course, this would require that the national pastor have a computer that can read data DVD's. This may not be possible, depending on what he has. Another problem with older technology is hard drive capacity.
It would be important to know the spec's of the national pastor's computer before making specific recommendations. My guess, though, is that the least expensive Best Buy computer (not recommended) is probably better than anything more than 3 yrs old. Hence, my recommendation to buy a new laptop that meets L4's spec's and send it down. In the long, and even the short run, it could benefit both the givers and the receiver. Who wants to find out that the 5yr old computer the pastor owns broke down and can't be fixed - so the software gift is lost too (at least until it can be replaced - whenever that can happen).
I would challenge the church(es) to give him the best you can, and drop the 'good enough' mentality. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing as best as you can.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Mark Smith said:
I don't know if a collection like this has a script to download the resources or whether you'd have run the Libronix resources update script to get them to download. after Libronix is installed and the license file is created
Mark, I made that suggestion: In Spanish and Enlish a while back (year?) [:O]
Something similer to the WIKI page for reinstalling Libronix on a Netbook computer, and NOTHING came of it. [:'(]
Now I come across another situation where it is needed.[:$]
Hope some one with the ability to write scrips posts one for each of the old and new spanish collections! [;)]
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If you buy logos 4 do you automatically get a logos 3 license?
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John Tabor said:
If you buy logos 4 do you automatically get a logos 3 license?
Yep, [Y] the license is good in Libronix (Logos 3) and in Logos 4 which you can have running on your laptop, desktop, Ipad and mac all at the same time with the same license.
I have books way back from Logos2 (Compubiblia), then up to LBLA (libronix), and now Logos4.
[Y]
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Richard DeRuiter said:
I would challenge the church(es) to give him the best you can, and drop the 'good enough' mentality
Boy talk about a difference in word views! Big differene in the best way to help, and the best way to give.
I for one have been fighting for the past 15 years the "Dame Dame Dame" attitude created by so many well meaning missionaries to southern Mexico .
Seems like all the gringos are good for are getting them: Key Boards, Speakers, MONEY, MONEY for Building an Anex, etc.
Richard DeRuiter said:If it's worth doing, it's worth doing as best as you can.
If it is worth doing only if you are sending an appopiate gift.
Sometimes sending 3 to 4 good references books would be a better gift and a better use of the Lords money.
What do you think the effect will be on the local christians when they see their pastor waking around with a new laptop that just arrived from the Gringos?
I know what effect it causes, many letters sent to churches in the states that remind me a lot of the "Weekly Nigeria Scam Letter" we all get in our mail boxes weekly.
¿Cant we just stop being paternalistic in our givining?
Most pastors in my part of mexico can make the equalivante of 500 to 800 dollars a month. I know it is not a lot to most of you, but with it the pastors in southern mexico can buy their own note book computers from SAMS, and they pay for monthly wireless internet access from AT&T.
I would challenge the church(es) to give a basic low end Logps product as a thank you to the pastor for his friendship.
Let them find the machine to run it on!
A more visible and useful gift may be to send hard copyies of good books (Comentario de Mateo Henery, JFB, Biblia:Griego-Españo, Dictionario Illistrado).
All of these are aviable on logos, but for a Home bible study or Sunday School clase you cant beat a hard copy.
Logos is a great tool, but it is not the only tool in the tool box.
Tom
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Tom Rach said:Richard DeRuiter said:
I would challenge the church(es) to give him the best you can, and drop the 'good enough' mentality
Boy talk about a difference in word views! Big differene in the best way to help, and the best way to give.
I for one have been fighting for the past 15 years the "Dame Dame Dame" attitude created by so many well meaning missionaries to southern Mexico .
Seems like all the gringos are good for are getting them: Key Boards, Speakers, MONEY, MONEY for Building an Anex, etc.
Richard DeRuiter said:If it's worth doing, it's worth doing as best as you can.
If it is worth doing only if you are sending an appopiate gift.
Sometimes sending 3 to 4 good references books would be a better gift and a better use of the Lords money.
What do you think the effect will be on the local christians when they see their pastor waking around with a new laptop that just arrived from the Gringos?
I know what effect it causes, many letters sent to churches in the states that remind me a lot of the "Weekly Nigeria Scam Letter" we all get in our mail boxes weekly.
¿Cant we just stop being paternalistic in our givining?
Most pastors in my part of mexico can make the equalivante of 500 to 800 dollars a month. I know it is not a lot to most of you, but with it the pastors in southern mexico can buy their own note book computers from SAMS, and they pay for monthly wireless internet access from AT&T.
I would challenge the church(es) to give a basic low end Logps product as a thank you to the pastor for his friendship.
Let them find the machine to run it on!
A more visible and useful gift may be to send hard copyies of good books (Comentario de Mateo Henery, JFB, Biblia:Griego-Españo, Dictionario Illistrado).
All of these are aviable on logos, but for a Home bible study or Sunday School clase you cant beat a hard copy.
Logos is a great tool, but it is not the only tool in the tool box.
Tom, thanks for that. My experience is limited in this regard, but our desire to give big is often the wrong first impulse, especially when it engenders jealousy or creates a gap between the gifted and those who were not. I appreciate you sharing this.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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My goal is to help and not hurt. I understand and have seen the whole gringo santa thing. We were there for prayer meeting and it felt like half the town came out. Many shared that they were praying for financial needs. I talked to our hosting missionary and they shared that this happens every time the gringos come. I was also told that there was a church in the next town that basically tells his people that white=green.
Once again my goal is to help. I want to give him resources that will help him. We are a small church in a very rural place and we are giving him the best we can. The question: Is what is the best to give him, of the best we can supply, in the best way, for the best result.
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Tom Rach said:
Boy talk about a difference in word views! Big differene in the best way to help, and the best way to give.
Tom Rach said:¿Cant we just stop being paternalistic in our givining?
Tom, you reminded me of something I had forgotten about, when I was in the Dominican Republic as a missionary.
I was reacting to the idea that something second rate, is good enough for a 'national pastor.' That seems paternalistic too.
Giving in a way that creates/perpetuates dependence is bad, and so is keeping all our financial blessings for ourselves. It's a dilemma of Biblical proportions!
I'd suggest a simple solution to the dilemma, but it would be wrong.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
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Hi John,
The image shows Libronix 3 logo. Anyway, I have this package and is version 3, not 2.1.
Blessings,
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John Tabor said:
The question: Is what is the best to give him, of the best we can supply, in the best way, for the best result.
1. Compublia - From Logos
2. Strongs - HB
3. Mateo Henery - HB
4. Vines - HB
You are looking at about 150 dollars, software and HB books for when the power is cut for whatever reason.
These are things that the pastor can use now regardless of his skills in greek or hebrew[:D]
The above thee books are what I encourage my pastors or elders to buy for the local congregations.
Tom
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Richard DeRuiter said:
I'd suggest a simple solution to the dilemma, but it would be wrong.
Remindes me of a song. [;)]
[8]"Must been there right place at the wrong time." [8] [Y]
Thanks for all or your input. [Y]
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Okay I think I know what I'm going to do. I'll toss it out and give everyone a chance to shoot it down.
* I found a store selling the pastors package version 3 for about $180. The pastors package has a good assortment of books (also includes the 1960 bible version). This seems to meet the best bang for the buck criteria.
* Buying version 3 seems the easiest. I'm not sure of his tech level so this should be just an easy install. Even if he upgrades his computer he could still use version 3 to great effect (just look at the logos 3 forum). Plus logos 3 has no problem working without internet.
As far as draw backs, all I see is that he would be missing out on some books (Logos 4 pastors has more books than Logos 3), The power of Logos 4 (If his computer could make the magic happen).
Am I missing anything huge? The pastors Logos 3 really seems the be way to go.
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Looks good to me [Y] Go for it.[:D]
John Tabor said:I'll toss it out and give everyone a chance to shoot it down.
Who me? I would never do that[A]
Good choice, he will like it and be blessed by you gift of kindness!
Tom
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John Tabor said:
The pastors Logos 3 really seems the be way to go.
It is great you've been able to find that package and at a good price. I think this is the best way to go if you are going to give Logos.
Pastor, North Park Baptist Church
Bridgeport, CT USA
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It is ordered and is on the way here.
Thanks for all the help.
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Hi John. Sorry I saw this forum to late. Just wanted to let you know that there is a bookstore in Quito that has some Logos stuff and it is the Version 3 stuff. It might be an upgrade option for the pastor. I am working as a Missionary in Ibarra, Ecuador. If I can be of any help, let me know. Depending where this pastor works, I could help him with some stuff.
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