Vyrso on Kindle Fire.

Carl Provost
Carl Provost Member Posts: 9
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

Will the Vyrso app be submitted to the Amazon Android App Store to load on the Fire or will one be abel to load the app from other source.

If I can get Vyrso or Logos app on the Kindle Fire I will be purchasing one.

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  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭

    If I can get Vyrso or Logos app on the Kindle Fire I will be purchasing one.

    You are not alone - though there have been those who have purchased the Fire, many of us are waiting to see how well it handles the Vyrso or LOGOS apps.

     

    Blessings,
    Floyd

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Carl - 

    If your decision to purchase a fire is based upon a Logos or Vryso app, I would wait to buy one. Currently the Andriod app requires a sd slot - the fire does not have one. Also, there is no guarantee that Amazon would let a competitor in their app store.

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  • Paul B Miller
    Paul B Miller Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    I got my Kindle Fire yesterday.  It will not allow you to load either the Logos or Vyrso App.  I don't think this is a hardware issue.  Amazon just locked the Fire down to their bookstore. Needless to say, I sent it back.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,637

    Hi Paul

    I got my Kindle Fire yesterday.  It will not allow you to load either the Logos or Vyrso App

    From http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39349/305618.aspx#305618 it looks as though it is possible.

    Graham

  • Greg Crocker
    Greg Crocker Member Posts: 20

    I have a Kindle Fire and IT DOES HAVE Vryso in the app store. It works really good!!

  • Greg Crocker
    Greg Crocker Member Posts: 20

    I love Kindle to read books and would like to have it work like a Kindle - I like to highlight and then get on the desktop and see the book with highlights - I highlight to pull pieces into my sermon. Is Logos working to that end?

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,637

    Hi Greg

    I like to highlight and then get on the desktop and see the book with highlights

    Logos is working on the ability to share highlights (and notes) between desktop and mobile apps.

    It is dependent on Logos 4.5 (which is currently in beta) which is delivering a new synchronisation framework (known as Sync 2). Once this is rolled up, there will need to be an update to the mobile apps so that they can participate in this.

    We don't have timescales for this but there have been hints that 4.5 should be released to the stable channel by the end of this year.

    Graham

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭


    I have a Kindle Fire and IT DOES HAVE Vryso in the app store. It works really good!!


    Peace, Greg!                                and                  Always Joy in the Lord.

                     I don't have any reader at all.          Also, no smart phone.  I do have broadband cable at home for my Logos 4 and could possibly go to a free Wi-Fi place if I needed that.

    My Point:          If my almost-perfect daughter would give me a Kindle Fire for Christmas OR a Keyboard Kindle OR

    Kindle DX, Free 3G, 3G Works Globally, Graphite, 9.7" Display with New E Ink Pearl Technology [Includes USB Cable for Charging. For International Shipment]

                   How could, then, I get my Logos and Vryso books onto the reader since I do not have a subscription to any so-called smart services.

                            Greg, (or any other kind soul!) Thanks for taking a long at this!    *smile*

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    How could, then, I get my Logos and Vryso books onto the reader since I do not have a subscription to any so-called smart services.

    Milford - All of these devices have, at a minimum, a wifi card built in. You would need to have a wifi connection in your home, church, business, etc. These devices can also be used "offline," although their functionality may be impaired.

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  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    Milford, Biblia.com enables you to read Logos and Vyrso books on 3G, tho it has truncated at least some of the chapters of one I am reading.  I tend to use my Kindle mainly for non-logos books, from Gutenberg or archive.org mostly.  I have converted Logos books to A6 pdf, which I can read comfortABLY ON kINDLE, BUT IT'S A LOT OF HASSLE.  You can copy things from PC to Kindle via USB. 

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 Replied: Today 11:44 AM

    Milford Charles Murray:

    How could, then, I get my Logos and Vryso books onto the reader since I do not have a subscription to any so-called smart services.

    Milford - All of these devices have, at a minimum, a Wi-Fi card built in. You would need to have a wifi connection in your home, church, business, etc. These devices can also be used "offline," although their functionality may be impaired.

    nicky crane Replied: Today 12:48 PM

    Milford, Biblia.com enables you to read Logos and Vyrso books on 3G, tho it has truncated at least some of the chapters of one I am reading. I tend to use my Kindle mainly for non-logos books, from Gutenberg or archive.org mostly. I have converted Logos books to A6 pdf, which I can read comfortABLY ON kINDLE, BUT IT'S A LOT OF HASSLE. You can copy things from PC to Kindle via USB.

        *     *     *     *     *     *

    Alabama and Nicky!   *smile*  Thanks for your responses!    Indeed!   And Peace and Joy in the Lord!

                  (Alabama, I was thinking of you when I was reading the sports page this morning and saw an article re. LSU and The Crimson Tide.  Hope you get to have that game this year!)

             To make my point more clearly.  I have a vast Logos Library, have been using Logos for over 17 years!  I have a great desktop setup – a strong i7 computer – and I do my “heavy” work there.  All my theological studies.  All my Greek and Hebrew studies, etc., in correlation with hundreds of other theological and study files I have on my home computer.

               What I’m looking for is essentially just a “reader.”   Lots of times I am in a “waiting mode.”  (For my wife, for my doctor or dentist, in various other ways.)

                   I have, for example, the Harvard Classics and many other interesting books in my library that are just for reading, including a number of Vvrso books.  All I want to do is to have a very large selection of my Logos Resources on a Reader and then to peruse them in my leisure times.  It’s not a lot of fun to sit in from of my monitor just to read. 

              Therefore, I need a reader that can hold a few G’s of material.  When I want a particular resource, I want it to be available.  I need a way to get my resources to my reader.  If Kindle does this, great!  (Thanks, Nicky, USB is fine!) *smile*      However, sometimes I can be very patient, and might ask my daughter to put the money aside for me and then put this on top of my wish list (for my wife, children, and grandchildren) to eventually get an I-Pad2, installing my own Wi-Fi network here at home.  Thus, I could get the weather and a host of other things.  But, if the Kindle worked well, I could start with that now!  Now!  Now!  Now!          *smile*

               Either with the Kindle or something more expensive, I would like to put various study documents and .pdf documents also onto my reader for meditation and deeper study.  For that, as I read various “threads” I think I might need more than a Kindle.  That’s why I’m posting this important post for me hoping that some of my Logos Forums brothers and sisters might assist me with a few jewels of wisdom and knowledge!

                                                                                             Psalm 145:3

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,415

    Either with the Kindle or something more expensive, I would like to put various study documents and .pdf documents

    The Kindle Fire does handle a variety of documents - I've only tried PDF's thus far ... but I am going slowly because it is touch screen and I have inherited my great-grandfather's hand size.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭

    I have Vyrso loaded on my Fire. But I find that it (and the Logos app) are not much use to me if I cannot use my collections. It is hard to find what you want or browse through 1000+ books/resources.

    Jerry

    iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.

  • Carl Provost
    Carl Provost Member Posts: 9

    You can cut and paste into a word doc and email to your kindle then you will have a book that automaticly formats to fit the kindle. you will be able to change font size without changing the size of page. I do this all the time and it works great.

  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    Either with the Kindle or something more expensive, I would like to put various study documents and .pdf documents

    The Kindle Fire does handle a variety of documents - I've only tried PDF's thus far ... but I am going slowly because it is touch screen and I have inherited my great-grandfather's hand size.

    have you tried using a stylus?  I find that simplifies  matters with iPad, but doesn't help much with touchscreen tablet

     

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    have you tried using a stylus?  I find that simplifies  matters with iPad, but doesn't help much with touchscreen tablet

    Nicky - I am confused... an iPad is a touchscreen tablet. Are you using a stylus? Does it help?

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  • Charles Tondee
    Charles Tondee Member Posts: 102

    Alabama, they make soft tipped stylus especially for touch based tablets. Having a soft tip basically simulates a finger tip. A regular pointed tip stylus won't work I don't believe, but I have never tried for fear of scratching the screen. The price ranges from 10-30 dollars.  My wife won't use our iPad without one, she loves her stylus. 

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Thanks jtondee - I knew that you could get them, but I have not used one. I think that I would like one for writing... everything else is fine for me. Do you know which brand she uses?

    The reason I asked the question is because nicky's statement seemed contradictory... a stylus "simplifies matters with iPad" yet "doesn't help much with touchscreen tablet." I am sure that was not what was meant, hence the follow up question.

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  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭

    You can cut and paste into a word doc and email to your kindle then you will have a book that automaticly formats to fit the kindle. you will be able to change font size without changing the size of page. I do this all the time and it works great.

    I know you can do this, but is there a way around the 100 page limit that Logos puts on books? I want to copy a whole book and send it to my e-ink Kindle. I don't want to go to Biblia; I want to open a book and read it.

    Jerry

     

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  • Carl Provost
    Carl Provost Member Posts: 9

    I don't know anything about the 100 page limit. I copied a 263 page book into Word 2010 and pasted with keep source formatting and the book looks exactly like it does in Logos. I them e-mailed in docx format to kindle and all ove the source formatting is there. It works great for me

    Carl

  • nicky crane
    nicky crane Member Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    have you tried using a stylus?  I find that simplifies  matters with iPad, but doesn't help much with touchscreen tablet

    Nicky - I am confused... an iPad is a touchscreen tablet. Are you using a stylus? Does it help?

    Sorry, got my technical terms confused.  Stylus helps on iPad, but not on acer convertible notebook/taBLET when in tablet mode (i.e. screen turned round and folded back.

    I have a soft tip stylus

  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    is there a way around the 100 page limit

    Jerry, I remember something about a limit, but it's been a while since I copied over 100 pages.  Don't remember, other than I have just to try a book on my old Kindle.  If nothing else, copy 100, then another 100, etc. and paste it all into the same file.

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • Wayne
    Wayne Member Posts: 175

    I don't know anything about the 100 page limit. I copied a 263 page book into Word 2010 and pasted with keep source formatting and the book looks exactly like it does in Logos. I them e-mailed in docx format to kindle and all ove the source formatting is there. It works great for me

    Carl

    The Print/Export feature has a 100 page limit. But if you export to a Word document using a small font it is not a big issue. I just used Print/Export to send two books to Kindle using Microsoft Word. Kindle was able to resize the font.

    Some on the forum have recommended using PDF to send files to Kindle. It may have been the only option in the past, but it appears that now there are better options.  When I used PDF, I had to adjust page and font size as Kindle was not able to resize the pdf files that I was sending.

  • Carl Provost
    Carl Provost Member Posts: 9

    If you highlight and then cut and paste there is no 100 page limit.

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭

    Carl -


    Do you mean directly in the resource? I can't seem to do that. Ctrl + A does not work, and putting the cursor at the beginning and then holding shift and going to the end doesn't either.

    How do you do it/

    Jerry

    iMac (2019 model), 3Ghz 6 Core Intel i5, 16gb Ram, Radeon Pro Graphics. 500GB SSD.

  • Carl Provost
    Carl Provost Member Posts: 9

    Use mouse, left click and hold move down until enrire resource is highlighted, release left mouse key, move pointer over highlighted area and right click, choose copy from menu, paste into word, save in latest docx format, e-mail to kindle. 

  • Carl Provost
    Carl Provost Member Posts: 9

    Kindle also keeps the book in the cloud so you are not forced to keep it on device. If you use WiFi there is no charge for the conversion and download to kindle reader. If you download through 3g there is a small fee. I use this feature all the time for a read later feature with logos and the web. 

  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    Use mouse, left click and hold move down until enrire resource is highlighted, release left mouse key, move pointer over highlighted area and right click, choose copy from menu, paste into word, save in latest docx format, e-mail to kindle. 

    I had never even thought of using the down arrow or (the faster) pg dn button, lol.  I just pulled my cursor to the bottom of the window and it scrolled through.  took a heckuva lot longer to highlight.


    ALSO, you can just select "print/export" from the drop down menu in the upper left corner and a new window will pop up.  Notice that it will give you different print options: 1) use selected text 2) page range option 3) options to print section by selecting button.  I love this last option for easy overview and control of what I want copied, except that I think it could be made more efficient: if you want the major selection, say "chapter 1", selecting that box only opens a drop down with all the subsections, and you have to select each one individually.  Can be very time consuming.  I'd rather that the left indented box selection would assume that one would want all the right indented boxes below it.  That would make more sense and be more efficient.  #2 is a great option, just type in 1-100 (or iii-89, or whatever) and "voila!"

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    Nice feature.

     

     

     

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.

  • Carl Provost
    Carl Provost Member Posts: 9

    I use the print and export feature when I want to print and export small sections, however, I can highlight, cut and paste an entire book into Word 2010 with my mouse faster that it takes logos to build a print or export file which still has the 100 page limit.

  • Friedrich
    Friedrich MVP Posts: 4,772

    I use the print and export feature when I want to print and export small sections, however, I can highlight, cut and paste an entire book into Word 2010 with my mouse faster that it takes logos to build a print or export file which still has the 100 page limit.

    I guess I hadn't timed the two.  But, first, I must say, you taught me what I did not know, that your way does not have the 100 page limit.  At the same time, I wonder if you do it in a way I don't really know about, because it still takes a while to hold page dn until all is selected.  just typing in page 1-100 seems pretty easy, then pasting, and doing 101-200, etc.  Am I missing something?

    I like Apples.  Especially Honeycrisp.