Will the Vyrso app be submitted to the Amazon Android App Store to load on the Fire or will one be abel to load the app from other source.
If I can get Vyrso or Logos app on the Kindle Fire I will be purchasing one.
You are not alone - though there have been those who have purchased the Fire, many of us are waiting to see how well it handles the Vyrso or LOGOS apps.
Carl -
If your decision to purchase a fire is based upon a Logos or Vryso app, I would wait to buy one. Currently the Andriod app requires a sd slot - the fire does not have one. Also, there is no guarantee that Amazon would let a competitor in their app store.
I got my Kindle Fire yesterday. It will not allow you to load either the Logos or Vyrso App. I don't think this is a hardware issue. Amazon just locked the Fire down to their bookstore. Needless to say, I sent it back.
Hi Paul
I got my Kindle Fire yesterday. It will not allow you to load either the Logos or Vyrso App
From http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39349/305618.aspx#305618 it looks as though it is possible.
Graham
I have a Kindle Fire and IT DOES HAVE Vryso in the app store. It works really good!!
I love Kindle to read books and would like to have it work like a Kindle - I like to highlight and then get on the desktop and see the book with highlights - I highlight to pull pieces into my sermon. Is Logos working to that end?
Hi Greg
I like to highlight and then get on the desktop and see the book with highlights
Logos is working on the ability to share highlights (and notes) between desktop and mobile apps.
It is dependent on Logos 4.5 (which is currently in beta) which is delivering a new synchronisation framework (known as Sync 2). Once this is rolled up, there will need to be an update to the mobile apps so that they can participate in this.
We don't have timescales for this but there have been hints that 4.5 should be released to the stable channel by the end of this year.
I don't have any reader at all. Also, no smart phone. I do have broadband cable at home for my Logos 4 and could possibly go to a free Wi-Fi place if I needed that.
My Point: If my almost-perfect daughter would give me a Kindle Fire for Christmas OR a Keyboard Kindle OR
How could, then, I get my Logos and Vryso books onto the reader since I do not have a subscription to any so-called smart services.
Milford - All of these devices have, at a minimum, a wifi card built in. You would need to have a wifi connection in your home, church, business, etc. These devices can also be used "offline," although their functionality may be impaired.
Milford, Biblia.com enables you to read Logos and Vyrso books on 3G, tho it has truncated at least some of the chapters of one I am reading. I tend to use my Kindle mainly for non-logos books, from Gutenberg or archive.org mostly. I have converted Logos books to A6 pdf, which I can read comfortABLY ON kINDLE, BUT IT'S A LOT OF HASSLE. You can copy things from PC to Kindle via USB.
alabama24 Replied: Today 11:44 AM
Milford Charles Murray:
Milford - All of these devices have, at a minimum, a Wi-Fi card built in. You would need to have a wifi connection in your home, church, business, etc. These devices can also be used "offline," although their functionality may be impaired.
nicky crane Replied: Today 12:48 PM
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Alabama and Nicky! *smile* Thanks for your responses! Indeed! And Peace and Joy in the Lord!
(Alabama, I was thinking of you when I was reading the sports page this morning and saw an article re. LSU and The Crimson Tide. Hope you get to have that game this year!)
To make my point more clearly. I have a vast Logos Library, have been using Logos for over 17 years! I have a great desktop setup – a strong i7 computer – and I do my “heavy” work there. All my theological studies. All my Greek and Hebrew studies, etc., in correlation with hundreds of other theological and study files I have on my home computer.
What I’m looking for is essentially just a “reader.” Lots of times I am in a “waiting mode.” (For my wife, for my doctor or dentist, in various other ways.)
I have, for example, the Harvard Classics and many other interesting books in my library that are just for reading, including a number of Vvrso books. All I want to do is to have a very large selection of my Logos Resources on a Reader and then to peruse them in my leisure times. It’s not a lot of fun to sit in from of my monitor just to read.
Therefore, I need a reader that can hold a few G’s of material. When I want a particular resource, I want it to be available. I need a way to get my resources to my reader. If Kindle does this, great! (Thanks, Nicky, USB is fine!) *smile* However, sometimes I can be very patient, and might ask my daughter to put the money aside for me and then put this on top of my wish list (for my wife, children, and grandchildren) to eventually get an I-Pad2, installing my own Wi-Fi network here at home. Thus, I could get the weather and a host of other things. But, if the Kindle worked well, I could start with that now! Now! Now! Now! *smile*
Either with the Kindle or something more expensive, I would like to put various study documents and .pdf documents also onto my reader for meditation and deeper study. For that, as I read various “threads” I think I might need more than a Kindle. That’s why I’m posting this important post for me hoping that some of my Logos Forums brothers and sisters might assist me with a few jewels of wisdom and knowledge!
Psalm 145:3
Either with the Kindle or something more expensive, I would like to put various study documents and .pdf documents
The Kindle Fire does handle a variety of documents - I've only tried PDF's thus far ... but I am going slowly because it is touch screen and I have inherited my great-grandfather's hand size.
I have Vyrso loaded on my Fire. But I find that it (and the Logos app) are not much use to me if I cannot use my collections. It is hard to find what you want or browse through 1000+ books/resources.
Jerry
You can cut and paste into a word doc and email to your kindle then you will have a book that automaticly formats to fit the kindle. you will be able to change font size without changing the size of page. I do this all the time and it works great.
Either with the Kindle or something more expensive, I would like to put various study documents and .pdf documents The Kindle Fire does handle a variety of documents - I've only tried PDF's thus far ... but I am going slowly because it is touch screen and I have inherited my great-grandfather's hand size.
have you tried using a stylus? I find that simplifies matters with iPad, but doesn't help much with touchscreen tablet
Nicky - I am confused... an iPad is a touchscreen tablet. Are you using a stylus? Does it help?
Alabama, they make soft tipped stylus especially for touch based tablets. Having a soft tip basically simulates a finger tip. A regular pointed tip stylus won't work I don't believe, but I have never tried for fear of scratching the screen. The price ranges from 10-30 dollars. My wife won't use our iPad without one, she loves her stylus.
Thanks jtondee - I knew that you could get them, but I have not used one. I think that I would like one for writing... everything else is fine for me. Do you know which brand she uses?
The reason I asked the question is because nicky's statement seemed contradictory... a stylus "simplifies matters with iPad" yet "doesn't help much with touchscreen tablet." I am sure that was not what was meant, hence the follow up question.
I know you can do this, but is there a way around the 100 page limit that Logos puts on books? I want to copy a whole book and send it to my e-ink Kindle. I don't want to go to Biblia; I want to open a book and read it.
I don't know anything about the 100 page limit. I copied a 263 page book into Word 2010 and pasted with keep source formatting and the book looks exactly like it does in Logos. I them e-mailed in docx format to kindle and all ove the source formatting is there. It works great for me
Carl
have you tried using a stylus? I find that simplifies matters with iPad, but doesn't help much with touchscreen tablet Nicky - I am confused... an iPad is a touchscreen tablet. Are you using a stylus? Does it help?
Sorry, got my technical terms confused. Stylus helps on iPad, but not on acer convertible notebook/taBLET when in tablet mode (i.e. screen turned round and folded back.
I have a soft tip stylus
is there a way around the 100 page limit
Jerry, I remember something about a limit, but it's been a while since I copied over 100 pages. Don't remember, other than I have just to try a book on my old Kindle. If nothing else, copy 100, then another 100, etc. and paste it all into the same file.
I don't know anything about the 100 page limit. I copied a 263 page book into Word 2010 and pasted with keep source formatting and the book looks exactly like it does in Logos. I them e-mailed in docx format to kindle and all ove the source formatting is there. It works great for me Carl
The Print/Export feature has a 100 page limit. But if you export to a Word document using a small font it is not a big issue. I just used Print/Export to send two books to Kindle using Microsoft Word. Kindle was able to resize the font.
Some on the forum have recommended using PDF to send files to Kindle. It may have been the only option in the past, but it appears that now there are better options. When I used PDF, I had to adjust page and font size as Kindle was not able to resize the pdf files that I was sending.
If you highlight and then cut and paste there is no 100 page limit.
Do you mean directly in the resource? I can't seem to do that. Ctrl + A does not work, and putting the cursor at the beginning and then holding shift and going to the end doesn't either.
How do you do it/
Use mouse, left click and hold move down until enrire resource is highlighted, release left mouse key, move pointer over highlighted area and right click, choose copy from menu, paste into word, save in latest docx format, e-mail to kindle.
Kindle also keeps the book in the cloud so you are not forced to keep it on device. If you use WiFi there is no charge for the conversion and download to kindle reader. If you download through 3g there is a small fee. I use this feature all the time for a read later feature with logos and the web.
I had never even thought of using the down arrow or (the faster) pg dn button, lol. I just pulled my cursor to the bottom of the window and it scrolled through. took a heckuva lot longer to highlight.
ALSO, you can just select "print/export" from the drop down menu in the upper left corner and a new window will pop up. Notice that it will give you different print options: 1) use selected text 2) page range option 3) options to print section by selecting button. I love this last option for easy overview and control of what I want copied, except that I think it could be made more efficient: if you want the major selection, say "chapter 1", selecting that box only opens a drop down with all the subsections, and you have to select each one individually. Can be very time consuming. I'd rather that the left indented box selection would assume that one would want all the right indented boxes below it. That would make more sense and be more efficient. #2 is a great option, just type in 1-100 (or iii-89, or whatever) and "voila!"
Nice feature.
I use the print and export feature when I want to print and export small sections, however, I can highlight, cut and paste an entire book into Word 2010 with my mouse faster that it takes logos to build a print or export file which still has the 100 page limit.
I guess I hadn't timed the two. But, first, I must say, you taught me what I did not know, that your way does not have the 100 page limit. At the same time, I wonder if you do it in a way I don't really know about, because it still takes a while to hold page dn until all is selected. just typing in page 1-100 seems pretty easy, then pasting, and doing 101-200, etc. Am I missing something?
Maybe my laptop is slow, but when I enter pages it seems to take a while before the print export is ready. Also if the resource does not have page numbers you have to individually ck every box. I Prefer my method for entire books because it does not require me to build the books in peaces unless they exceed the clipboard capacity.
Perhaps you or someone else could help me make a final decision. My daughter is getting antsy about no decision from me as to whether or not I want a Kindle from her for Christmas. I have only a few more hours to make up my mind.
My only purpose for a reader is to read Logos and Vyrso books. Plus some of my own .docs and .pdfs. I would be highly unlikely to buy an e-book from Amazon unless perhaps my dear wifey wanted one. ............ (I do not have 3g service, no mobile phone, but only a very good high-speed cable.)
Therefore, can I possibly want a Kindle OR should I ask my daughter to give me the money for me to put aside to save up for an iPad? I can then put "money for an iPad" on my family wish list for Father's Day, my birthday, and whatever.. I've looked at some of the various tablets; however, they are expensive enough also. Perhaps it would be better to wait until I could get an iPad.
The opinion of a dear brother or sister from the Forums Community would be very important to me at this point. Bottom line: if I settle for a Kindle now, would I always be wanting an iPad??? Could I possibly be happy with a Kindle? I urgently desire an e-reader since I'm tired of reading from my desktop.
Thank you so much! In advance ... for your kind opinion............... *smile* Hebrews 12:1
Save for an Ipad. New version of Ipad comming out next year and rumor of a cheaper version to compete with the cheaper android tablets.
save for an older version iPad, as that will be cheaper. I have an iPad 1 and don't feel deprived that it's not the latest model! Tho Kindle is much better for reading in bright sunlight. I have both, and use both, frequently, one or other several times a day. I thought the iPad might be an unjustified extravagance, but I'm getting full value out of it. Kindle is handy in situations where I have to wait, church when the priest is late, bank, supermarket queue etc. Or in Albanian buses, where I don't want to flash an iPad around. In fACT KINDLE IS MORE CONVENIENT IN ANY BUSES - I also used it in Germany.
Bottom line: if I settle for a Kindle now, would I always be wanting an iPad??? Could I possibly be happy with a Kindle? I urgently desire an e-reader since I'm tired of reading from my desktop.
Charles, I have neither. I'd say some of it comes down to how quickly you want to start reading and how long it will take you to get money for the iPad. there is no question that if I could have either, i'd choose the ipad. BUT, it might take me 1 or 2 years to have the money to get one. Pretty sure I don't want to wait that long. The iPad will always work better and be snappier in its performance and capabilities. But, people have said the KF is fine for just reading. With the extra 300 you'd spend for and ipad, think of all the resources you could get! [:O] [H] [A]
not an easy decision.
Tho Kindle is much better for reading in bright sunlight.
she is referring to the original "e-ink" kindles, and not the Kindle Fire (right, Nicky?), which is backlit like the iPads.
Nicky, I have begun to rethink my desire for a KF or iPad right now. I might get by with a regular ol' Kindle I have and send personal documents to myself to read. Not as convenient and powerful, but it can be done, and the reading pleasure is a bit better--unless it is dark. we'll see. I vacillate so much on this!
Dan - I have a Kindle 3 and a Fire. The Fire does some cool things, but NOTHING beats reading on e-ink.
I have a cover for my K3 that has a light built in to it and runs off the Kindle battery. It is fantastic. I don't need it most of the time, but it's nice to have.
You can get a new one now as low as $80. I don't know if they make lighted covers for those however. They might, I just don't know one way or the other.
I have a cover for my K3 that has a light built in to it and runs off the Kindle battery.
Hi Jerry, I have the same setup, although my wife often snags it and leaves me with the one that is without. (we have two . . . long story). But it is quite a bit heavier/awkward, imo. I don't know how that would compare with holding the KF.
If you are not worried about getting one by Christmas, there are rumors that Apple will begin to create additional pricing points with the iPad, just as they have done with the iPhone (you can get a 3G free, a 4 for $99, or 4s for $199). The rumor is that Apple will sell an "older" model (1 or 2 Gen) iPad at the $300 price point. These are just rumors (I know some don't like to hear them), so take it with a grain of salt. [:P]
should I ask my daughter to give me the money for me to put aside to save up for an iPad?
Kindle and Nook apps are still available in iTunes for use on iOS devices, including iPad.
Apple offers certified refurbished iPad's => http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad
(I do not have 3g service, no mobile phone, but only a very good high-speed cable.)
Option: add a wireless access point for use with high-speed cable. Recommend wireless configuration using WPA2 with AES.
Keep Smiling [:)]
Tho Kindle is much better for reading in bright sunlight. she is referring to the original "e-ink" kindles, and not the Kindle Fire (right, Nicky?), which is backlit like the iPads. Nicky, I have begun to rethink my desire for a KF or iPad right now. I might get by with a regular ol' Kindle I have and send personal documents to myself to read. Not as convenient and powerful, but it can be done, and the reading pleasure is a bit better--unless it is dark. we'll see. I vacillate so much on this!
Yes, it's an e-ink kindle. A new cover with a light, which works on my ?Kindle keyboard, would be cheaper than a KF!
true. I guess "inconvenience" is the only reason i am wanting a KF--i'd like to be able to browse my library and pick any book to read. with the K3 I own, I have to think ahead, copy, send, remember to send to the right unit . . . and, any highlights/notes (which can't be done yet anyway) will not show up in Logos. BUT, it is cheaper and easier on the eyes.
Yes, it's an e-ink kindle. A new cover with a light, which works on my ?Kindle keyboard, would be cheaper than a KF! true. I guess "inconvenience" is the only reason i am wanting a KF--i'd like to be able to browse my library and pick any book to read. with the K3 I own, I have to think ahead, copy, send, remember to send to the right unit . . . and, any highlights/notes (which can't be done yet anyway) will not show up in Logos. BUT, it is cheaper and easier on the eyes.
You might find Kindle Fire easier on the eyes if black background with white text is easier on the eyes. I don't have a Kindle Fire, I use the iPad, but find this seeing is easier to read for longer periods (especially at night).
Blessings,
Philana
hey Philan--always appreciate your input! Yeah, I know about that feature, and when my wife lets me use her ipod touch, I have used it ([:)]). e-ink is just nice, and is great for sunlit areas. Anyway, still wondering myself about whether to get the KF, or save for an ipad.
Can you use your kindle for vyrso books? I' like a simple kindle just for reading but would like to be able to have my vyrso books on it.
Thanks, Linda
There is not a Vyrso app for the regular Kindle, but there is an Andriod app which can be used on the Kindle Fire. Some users have spent time exporting Logos/Vyrso books to other formats to make them work on regular kindles, but I have no experience with that.
Can you use your kindle for vyrso books? I' like a simple kindle just for reading but would like to be able to have my vyrso books on it. Thanks, Linda
In addition to what Alabama said, you should be able to use the kindle browser to access your Vyrso books on biblia.com.
Hope this helps,
Mick
Thanks, that helps.Changing books to other formats is not something I know how to do. I don't want to spend the extra money on a kindle fire just to be able to read a book on the go-so I'll just have to carry a real book with me.
A number of great ideas and suggestions!
Does anyone know if they are planning to have a Vyrso App for the Kindle Fire? If so, ETA?
Doesn't Logos already have an Andriod Vyrso app?
