I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to view a bible verse by verse in V. 4 rather than in paragraphs. This would be equivelant to the V. 3 View...Bible Text Only option.
Thanks
I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to view a bible verse by verse in V. 4 rather than in paragraphs. This would be equivelant to the V. 3 View...Bible Text Only option. Thanks
Good question. It is possible there is a way to do this with visual filters since it has a "New Line" feature but I don't know what you would put in the find box. If it were to be implemented, I would guess the Devs would use this feature so that the interface does not become cluttered.
I would be interested in this also. Its not a complaint, but I do prefer a "verse per line" format.
The NASB in print and in the Logos version is a verse by verse Bible.
Someone else asked about this for the KJV. I think people who want this would want it for several/all (not sure how that works in the Message) versions.
Chris
The KJV and NKJV are line by line in print, but not in Logos.
I would want the option for all, its simply my preferred way of reading.
Someone else asked about this for the KJV. I think people who want this would want it for several/all (not sure how that works in the Message) versions. Chris
Thats why I would suggest allowing a way to do this from the visual filter. One filter can do any number of translations, or all translation, if they allow you to find every verse number with the filter.
I agree, in Logos 4 we need a way to display our Bibles verse-by-verse in any translation as a selectable reading preference. And with all the cross-references and notes still present (not stripped out).
to display our Bibles verse-by-verse
I am curious why people want a verse-by-verse display. Remember this is in the context of my wanting sentence-by-sentence. I am working hard on becoming a genuine curmudgeon on the topic - or was until I discovered curmudgeons are male by definition - so I'll go the cat route and be a sourpuss.
But I honestly am interested in why people want to look verse by bverse.
Martha,
I'm with you on this one.
Having verses numbered as if they are disconnected thoughts has helped in creating a lot of misinterpretation of scripture...
1st John anyone? [:D]
Whilst I am glad you have found my proposed avatar useful... and I'm surprised with how well it shows up in such a reduced state... if you're ever feeling particularly curmudgeonly (sourpussly?)... you might find the following better represents your state of mind:
Martha, I'm with you on this one. Having verses numbered as if they are disconnected thoughts has helped in creating a lot of misinterpretation of scripture... 1st John anyone?
1st John anyone?
Come on Robert. Why are you so worried about interpretation? Isn't it more important that verses are easier to memorize?
NOTE: For those wanting Verse by verse I'm with you, no harm in the option...just having fun...
Yeah...and pull out like Scripture Shot-guns...lol [:D]
Yeah...and pull out like Scripture Shot-guns...lol
Yeah...well...I'm gonna make the head honcho Bob give me Portfolio because "I can do all things through Christ who Strengthens me."
Do you think he cringes when he reads these? We better be careful or we will be blackballed from the 5.0 beta.
I think verse by verse would be a GREAT filter! When I lead inductive study I use verse by verse simply because then there are no paragraphs. In our translations there are times when the paragraph breaks are what cause some of the misinterpretation.
I also don't have the Chapter breaks between the verses, they are simply numbered: 1:31, 1:32, 2:1, 2:2, etc. That my students read through the breaks to discover the context rather than stopping at the end of paragraphs or subtitles.
Just adding to the discussion.
Oh, and Thomas, I'm much happier with LOGOS 4 now. I spent a whole lot of hours in it this weekend, and have found my way around much more. Please forgive my earlier rants, I truly was overwhelmed trying to learn a new program. Can't wait for the prayer list to be added back in. ;-)
Glad you've had time to acclimate to the weather in L4. It's different and as noted a few items still need some spit-shine but it's getting better.
Look for more SR# updates this week. [;)]
there are times when the paragraph breaks are what cause some of the misinterpretation. I also don't have the Chapter breaks between the verses
there are times when the paragraph breaks are what cause some of the misinterpretation.
I also don't have the Chapter breaks between the verses
I agree with you on both although I still hold to sentence by sentence rather than verse. I think that the legal format (page and print line number) has an advantage of having no implicit meaning ... but it would never work for Bible study.
I can't figure out what to put into a visual filter to do this.
It would be very nice to have a way to identify chapter markings, verse markings, & footnote marks so that we can use a simple visual filter to remove these from view.
Anybody know of a way to identify these?
The NASB in print and in the Logos version is a verse by verse Bible.Only in certain formats. For instance my Cambridge NASB is paragraphed, much better that way IMHO.
I think Logos is using the publisher's format and it is IMHO how it should be. I am not sure that it doesn't matter for the particular translation team, if we use it other way than they wanted. We have plenty Bibles with the paragraph setting, we have also verse setting (like WordStudy KJV) etc.
That is one thing I really like Logos over other programs, that it keeps the layout of the publisher.
Of course, I would have no problem if there is such option to have just plain text, paragraph text, verse by verse text, No numbers and paragraphs text ;-) and so on...
That reminded me....
In L3 with the message you could turn on or off the verse numbers with a visual filter, it appears that said filter is no longer available. Not that I would read the message anyway, but it makes me wonder if it is/will be possible to do this later.
I'm also wanting to see the ability to read bibles in "versified" format (both English and original language texts). As for the reasons why: there are many situations as a teacher where I want to quickly be able to point students or the congregation to focus on certain verses and verse numbers are the obvious way to do this. It is also helpful when visually trying to identify a location to focus on a particular detail.
It is simply less visually distracting when concerned about locations in the text when they are 'one verse per line.' I also agree that situations where this is advantageous are other than those where you are meditating on the entire passage and really wrestling with the grammatical flow and relation of ideas.
I show a way here: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/5307/41577.aspx#41577. It has it's limitations, but it may work for what you want.
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