Tool: L4-Bibliography2
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Ben,
Seems that you probably have different Special folders for Documents verses Data. i haven't seen this before on my L4 system. So i have adjusted the program to look for unique folders for both. This may not be the problem, but this is my best guess for now. So let's try to install the new temp version below. Hopefully this will work for you.
<removed temp version>
Please install this version (you may need to use Control Panel to uninstall the older version first).
Please let me know if this works or post an image of the error window.
Thanks for your help!
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Steve,
Thanks very much! and your useful tools. now ok!
pretty tools!
God blessings.
Ben
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
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steve clark said:
1. This may be doable, i will have to give it some thought.
2. This is not doable. There are no markers in the database relating to collections and the books. (thus why Logos hasn't added collections to the Library window).
3. This is doable. But i don't have 1000 books to test it with. i am concerned about: memory issues, how Word will handle this volume, some user's machines that are slow may seem to take forever, etc. This is why i capped the list at 300. It seemed silly to just copy all the books without the user selecting a method for easily locating relevant books; otherwise why not just use the Library?
Steve, thanks for your reply and considerations ...
(1) Further suggestion, May be you might consider listing the order by filename instead of the title .... at least is should work for many of the Series. for the others we can manually adjust them :-)
(3) I found the limit of 300 by accident ... as I was working on a subgroup of commentaries with 340 Resources and I have just under 8000 resources. Therefore, the reason I am suggesting a 1000 limit. I Understand the memory issue for slower machines ... maybe if you can consider just to increase the limit by a little :-)
Thanks once again
JK
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Made a change to locate the L4 special folder to use the Registry for L4. This should fix problems where users had more than one special folder in their L4 installation. In previous versions of Bibl2, there was logic which read the directory and used some logic to determine which special folder was in use, recently after i reinstalled L4, i found that the logic was insufficient. So i've gone to this new method which should be more reliable.
Website for Bibl2: http://www.bibl2.clark-tx.net/
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This is just exceptional... thank you for sharing your hard work and expertise.
I am having a problem when importing my docx into my L4 PB: the hyperlinks aren't working. They work fine in the word document but every link only opens one of two books in L4. Furthermore, CTRL+CLICK of book image does nothing.
Any advice?
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LimJK said:steve clark said:
3. This is doable. But i don't have 1000 books to test it with. i am concerned about: memory issues, how Word will handle this volume, some user's machines that are slow may seem to take forever, etc. This is why i capped the list at 300. It seemed silly to just copy all the books without the user selecting a method for easily locating relevant books; otherwise why not just use the Library?
Steve, thanks for your reply and considerations ...
(3) I found the limit of 300 by accident ... as I was working on a subgroup of commentaries with 340 Resources and I have just under 8000 resources. Therefore, the reason I am suggesting a 1000 limit. I Understand the memory issue for slower machines ... maybe if you can consider just to increase the limit by a little :-)
Thanks once again
I ran into the same problem... when I got to the "Monograph" I have 518, and it seems that I can't even split it into two 300 sized chunks -- it seems to allow me only to select 24 at a time. Is there any sort of practical work around for this?
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Hi Lusayalumino, welcome to the Forum!
Lusayalumino said:I ran into the same problem... when I got to the "Monograph" I have 518, and it seems that I can't even split it into two 300 sized chunks -- it seems to allow me only to select 24 at a time. Is there any sort of practical work around for this?
If you select 24 at a time (books showing in each screen) they will be added to the list. When you get to 288 (24 times 12 screens) or less, then you could use the Build button to add these to a Word docx. Then you could repeat this where you left off and add it to another Word docx. Then copy or cut from one of the Word docx files and paste into the other below where its table of images is located. (A very useful thing to learn is how to copy a table of images in Word and paste them into another Word docx.)
In case you haven't figured out how to add sequential groups of book to the list, see below:
1. First make sure that your list is empty.
a. Position the book list where you want to start using the vertical scrollbar. Also make sure that the upper left book is selected (yellow border).
2. Now hold the Shift key down on your keyboard and with your mouse click on the book cover in the lower right corner of the screen.
a. Notice that the book cover now has a yellow border and that your list count has had 24 items added to it. (this is all the books shown on the current screen).
Note: selecting books from the top left to the bottom right adds them to the list in the order that they are shown. The program follows your lead when selecting books and places them in the order you selected them. (e.g. if you had select the lower right cover first and then selected the upper left cover, the program would have added the books in reverse order to your list). Thus why in steps 1a & 2 are having you select the upper left first and the lower right second.
3. Now make sure that you have released the Shift key. Move your mouse over a hollow area of the vertical scrollbar (above the scrollbar's lower arrow) below the slider. On your keyboard hold the Ctrl key down and with your mouse click in the hollow area of the scrollbar. This will instruct the program to show the next 24 book covers and select the upper left book.
a. Notice that on the next screen that the upper left book is indeed selected
4. Now we are going to repeat step 2, on your keyboard hold the Shift key down and click on the lower right book cover.
a. Notice that your list count has been incremented by 24 books. It is important to keep track of your list count.
5. Now repeat steps 2 & 3 until you see the list count get to 288 (this should be a dozen screens of covers).
a. We don't want it to get too close to 300 (as you know the program
caps the count to 300 for reason mentioned earlier in this forum
thread), So when you see that adding 24 more books would cross over the
300 value, then stop here so we know where we are and the capping hasn't
lost our position on which books are in the list relative to the screen
position.
6. Now hold the Ctrl key down and click in the hollow area of the scrollbar (as you've been doing in step 3)
a. Here we want to make a note (possible on a sheet of paper) where we will start with our next list, just in case the book cover position on the screen changes.
b. Now you would click the Build button and send your list of covers to a Word docx file (you already know how to do this, if not click on the Help button and in the PDF document find The Build Window topic on pg 12). This will create the first 288 books into a Word docx file.
7. Once you've added the first 288 books to a Word docx, now we want to get the next group of books into our list. So click on the Clear button to erase the list. Make sure the book in step 6a is in the upper left corner and it is selected.
a. Now repeat steps 2 & 3 to add the next 288 books to your list. Then follow step 6 to have the program create another Word docx with the book covers in it.
As mentioned at the top of this post you will need to Copy & Paste your table of book covers from other docx windows into the one that you are using for your personal book. This is covered in the help PDF in the section Steps that I use to build a PB using this tool.
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Hi again Lusayalumino,
This problem took me a while to figure out. Logos4 is having problems recognizing something in the Word docx format when you save the docx that Bibl2 created.
To get around Logos4's problem, i found that copying and pasting from the docx that Bibl2 created into an existing/working PB docx works. Then Logos4 recognizes the links. Also further pasting from other Bibl2 docx files into this same working PB docx continues to work fine. Below are steps to get this to work.
Logos4's problem
When saving the Word docx that Bibl2 created to a new filename (Test3) and then having Personal Book (PB) tool create the book, when we hold the mouse over a link in the PB we see that Logos4 did not recognize the link (no pop-up description of the book).
Steps to create a new docx, then import via Copy/Paste into this new docx
First open Word and create a new document and save it with a filename. (i even went so far as to have Logos4 build this blank PB).
- Next i used Bibl2 to create a new docx via the Build command
- Then in the Word docx, i pressed Ctrl A to have Word select everything in the docx.
- Then i Right Clicked on the selected items and in the pop-up menu clicked on Copy to add it to the clipboard
- Then i went to the other Word docx that i created earlier
- and right clicked in it and in the pop-up menu clicked on Paste
- Then i Saved the changes in this Word docx.
- Then i went into Logos4 and used Build to create the PB
- Notice now the links are working (when hovering over the link Logos4 shows a pop-up for the book)
- So adding more Bibl2 tables to our existing PB will continue to work. This is not as complicated as it might seem.
Just use a working docx for your PB and copy/paste from the Bibl2 docx's into it.
Sorry for the inconvenience, i have no control over how Logos4 handles Word docx files. Obviously Word doesn't have a problem with the docx files generated by the Bibl2 program. But Logos4 is having difficulty in reading them properly.
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Also i have found that Logos4 doesn't handle Tables from a docx without warnings. Logos4 shows warning after building the docx. These warnings can be resolved if you:
- right click on the Table in Word and select Table Properties
- And then in the Table tab, click on Preferred width and set it to a value (i generally us 7.5 inches).
- For some reason Logos4 PB tool doesn't know how to scale the table (although Word always remembers)
- Then click OK
- Then save your Word docx and go to Logos4 and Build the PB.
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This is really great; thanks so much - what a blessing!
My final Word document ended up being 9.25MB and 564 pages... I think it's the largest Word Doc I've ever created.
I'm amazed that it sucked right into Logos without incident, and works flawlessly. I feel like I have a brand new Logos.
God's richest to you my friend.
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Hi Steve,
A couple quick Q's for you:
- I didn't see a way to give donations to you????
- Do you have other tools you've created that are available?
Thanks again!
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Hi Lusayalumino,
Lusayalumino said:I didn't see a way to give donations to you????
None needed. Freely i have received, freely i give.
Lusayalumino said:Do you have other tools you've created that are available?
There is one more app: Quick Links
Also here are a couple of links to other things which might be of use:
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GREAT TOOL!!!!! EASY TO USE!!!
Question: can a feature be added to catolog the 'Hidden Resources"?
Thomas
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Steve, I have word 2007, when I click on them the books do not open in L4.
Thanks for such a wonderful tool.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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I am using the latest beta.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Hi Lynden,
Lynden Williams said:Steve, I have word 2007, when I click on them the books do not open in L4.
Sounds like the problem that i show a work-around in the first part of this post. You need to create a blank docx and then compile it with L4. Next you need to use the Bibl2 tool to create your images with links. Then Copy/Paste into the blank docx file that you created. Now L4 should remember the and compile that docx properly. i'm not sure why L4 is ignoring the links when compiling the docx built by Bibl2.
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Thanks Steve. If you have the time, please see if you can help me with the problem that I posted in the general forum about viewing Logos videos on youtube.
Will try the work around.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Hi Thomas,
Thomas Jackson said:Question: can a feature be added to catolog the 'Hidden Resources"?
i don't know if the hidden resources are present in the DB. And if they are how much trouble it would be to incorporate those. i will look into it sometime in the future when i have time.
EDIT: the info for hidden resources doesn't seem to be present in the DB.
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Thanks for trying!
Best
Thomas
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Thomas Jackson said:
GREAT TOOL!!!!!
Thanks for bringing this post back into the active forums, Thomas.
Steve, you are a marvel. Thanks for this wonderful tool. I have close to 5,000 resources, so I have much work ahead. I second the wish of a poster for extending the capacity to 1000 books.
Rosie, I haven't been to the wiki or thread that you mentioned where useful programs are collected yet, but I will make it a top priority once I've put in some library work.
Wow!!! this is the best thing since collections. Thanks again Steve!
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Steve,
I've run upon some trouble not covered in Help. After having successfully built two docx files each containing 288 books, I found myself unable to merge the 2nd library into the 1st with both images and type intact. I was only able to merge either all type or all images, but not both. What is the remedy?
Thanks
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.2 1TB SSD
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Beloved said:
I've run upon some trouble not covered in Help. After having successfully built two docx files each containing 288 books, I found myself unable to merge the 2nd library into the 1st with both images and type intact. I was only able to merge either all type or all images, but not both. What is the remedy?
i usually have my PB docx file open and the cursor positioned at the end of that file.
Then i run Bibl2 which creates a new docx with the images & links. In the Bibl2 docx i usually click out side the table and press Ctrl A which selected everything in the Bibl2 docx. Then i press Ctrl C which adds everything in the docx to the clipboard (for large amount of images you may need to wait a couple of minutes while Word adds that info to the clipboard.
Then i return to my PB docx file with the cursor at the end of the Word doc, then i press Ctrl V to paste the clipboard contents into that docx file. Then i save the PB docx file. Then i go to L4 and compile my PB.
Then i delete the Bibl2 docx file.
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steve clark said:
i usually have my PB docx file open and the cursor positioned at the end of that file.
Then i run Bibl2 which creates a new docx with the images & links. In the Bibl2 docx i usually click out side the table and press Ctrl A which selected everything in the Bibl2 docx. Then i press Ctrl C which adds everything in the docx to the clipboard (for large amount of images you may need to wait a couple of minutes while Word adds that info to the clipboard.
Then i return to my PB docx file with the cursor at the end of the Word doc, then i press Ctrl V to paste the clipboard contents into that docx file.
I do everything exactly as you indicate in the above quote. Including being sure the original docx file is not read only. But for some reason the second docx file compiles into the original docx file with either only type or images.
Thanks for your help Steve.
Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.
International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.
MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.2 1TB SSD
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Beloved said:
I do everything exactly as you indicate in the above quote. Including being sure the original docx file is not read only. But for some reason the second docx file compiles into the original docx file with either only type or images
Problem was resolved offline.
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Steve,
Any plans to modify fo L5?
Thomas
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Thomas Jackson said:
Any plans to modify fo L5?
Hi Thomas,
i am still running L4, so i will have to look into this later. i visit with a couple of people who have L5, so i will try copying the associated db's and see if they are similar enough that Bibl2 can read them. If so, then i will need to investigate how L5 is integrated into the Registry. If it is very similar, then it should not be too difficult to update Bibl2 to read from either L4 or L5. i don't know how long this will take tho.
steve
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Thanks
Tho,as
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Updated Bibl2 to work with Logos5's database. This should work now with L5.
You can download the updated version here: L4-Bibliography2
If you have problems:
- with the installer: please read the Note under where you downloaded the file. It has a link to a forum post which gives you instructions on how to uninstall the old version, then install the new version.
- running the program: please drop me an email: admin [at] bibl2.clark-tx.net
You can see the brief release note here (see note for Nov 10, 2012)
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Fixed 2 problems which were very annoying:
- You could not save the docx generated by Bibl2 and build with L4/L5 PB tool.
- When building your PB, you received many warning messages.
- (the above problems once had work-arounds in this post. But these work-arounds are not needed anymore)
You can download the updated version here: L4-Bibliography2
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