ESV Study Bible Questions

Hey there. For transparency, I have recently began (haven't fully converted yet) reading and utilizing the ESV over my lifelong KJV translation.

I have some interest in obtaining the ESV study bible notes in Logos which I see come by themselves if I already own the ESV. So to my question for some of you who have this bible...

Do the notes come down on a dogmatic position as far as reformed or arminian theology? How about amillennial or premillennial theology?

Any help would be appreciated...

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Fred Chapman

Here is a link to the ESV website http://esvstudybible.org/ I would suggest starting there and then doing some internet research

T Gerold Castle

Thanks - I guess.

Randall Cue

Tom,

The scholars involved in the ESV Study Bible are definitely Reformed in their theology, and as such would lean towards an amillenialist position.

Soli Deo Gloria,

Randy

T Gerold Castle

Thank you, Randall.

Mark Barnes

Do the notes come down on a dogmatic position as far as reformed or arminian theology? How about amillennial or premillennial theology?

From the introduction:

The doctrinal perspective of the ESV Study Bible is that of classic evangelical orthodoxy, in the historic stream of the Reformation. The notes are written from the perspective of confidence in the complete truthfulness of the Bible. In passages where errors or contradictions have been alleged, possible solutions to these challenges have been proposed. At times the notes also summarize interpretations that are inconsistent with classic evangelical orthodoxy, indicating how and why such views are in conflict with Scripture. Within that broad tradition of evangelical orthodoxy, the notes have sought to represent fairly the various evangelical positions on disputed topics such as baptism, the Lord’s Supper, spiritual gifts, the future of ethnic Israel, and questions concerning the millennium and other events connected with the time of Christ’s return.

Mark Barnes

The scholars involved in the ESV Study Bible are definitely Reformed in their theology, and as such would lean towards an amillenialist position.

All three millennial views are represented pretty well. Wayne Grudem, the General Editor is pre-mill, though some of the other scholars are a-mill

Brother Mark

Do the notes come down on a dogmatic position as far as reformed or arminian theology? How about amillennial or premillennial theology?

With regard to premillennial theology, this is from: ChristianCourier.com review of the ESV (CAVEAT: I do NOT agree with either the theology or the complete review of the ESV by ChristianCourier.com, but the Premillennial synopsis is both accurate and instructive. That being said, I am a proponent of and personally use the ESV daily.)

Premillennialism

There is no question but that the thrust of this study Bible is premillennial in its view of end-time events.

While there has been much debate over the nature and timing of the millennial events, what is certainly clear in Scripture is that Christ will return and establish his kingdom and that all mankind will finally acknowledge his lordship over all creation. Once and for all, creation will undeniably submit to Christ the King, and he will reign on earth as already he does in heaven (Matt. 6:10; Phil. 2:10) (2,533).

One may expect, therefore, premillennial promotions in the discussions of many prophetic passages, even when (in the interest of sales) a “balance” of interpretative ideas is offered. A premillennial bias clearly prevails (cf. Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:6ff; Daniel 9:24-27; Revelation 20).

The contention that the material creation will be restored in a literal “new heavens and new earth,” to become the home of the redeemed for eternity, is quite undisguised (2,534).

T Gerold Castle

Thanks, Brother Mark.

I appreciate everyone posting. Stepping outside of the 'controversial' issues for a moment, does the ESVSB add value to the Logos library? Are the 'standard' notes and articles useful? Historical data? Customs and Manners information?

Thanks for everyone helping.

Rich DeRuiter

Any help would be appreciated...

I've not been overly impressed with the notes. They're good, but they don't rise much above the pack of similar study Bibles. But it's a study Bible, expectations shouldn't be that high.I often have my NIV Study Bible open while working and find it to be generally better - but it's not available in Logos (yet?! please!). Like many study Bibles, it sometimes skips over verses i think are important, interesting or problematic (I was just looking at John 9:39, e.g. nothing in the ESVSB); of course, they didn't ask me to contribute, so . . .

One beef I have with the ESV is that is a bit heavy handed regarding the complementarian view of male/female, husband/wife relationships, making no room for an egalitarian view. This is evident in the typical NT passages and the 1st three chapters of Genesis (in certain passages, of course). I find the lack of balance on that issue to be a bit irritating.

Overall, I'm glad I have it, but I'm giving it more time before giving it a definitive thumbs up or down.

Mark Barnes

I appreciate everyone posting. Stepping outside of the 'controversial' issues for a moment, does the ESVSB add value to the Logos library? Are the 'standard' notes and articles useful? Historical data? Customs and Manners information?

It's the best Study Bible there is, in my opinion.

Brother Mark

I've not been overly impressed with the notes. They're good, but they don't rise much above the pack of similar study Bibles. But it's a study Bible, expectations shouldn't be that high.

I agree with Richard that the ESVSB notes aren't a replacement for a library of excellent commentaries, but at $39.95 I generally like them and would buy it again. There are a good number of charts (Click Here), synopsis, and articles that complement the verse commentary and are helpful to me.

Mike Binks

Thanks, Brother Mark.

I appreciate everyone posting. Stepping outside of the 'controversial' issues for a moment, does the ESVSB add value to the Logos library? Are the 'standard' notes and articles useful? Historical data? Customs and Manners information?

Thanks for everyone helping.

As Richard says - it is a Study Bible (in my opinion a good one) which in its paper version was limited for space. In those days one had to be able to lift the thing.

It is not a commentary - some of which run to 40 volumes (and some of which don't say much in 40 volumes) so be sure you are comparing like with like.

If you want a full treatment of the Bible then you need to look elsewhere (with more money) but if you want a general help then this is a good buy.

One thing about adding books to your iPad is that it doesn't make it much heavier. A little but not a lot. :-)

Randall Cue

I appreciate everyone posting. Stepping outside of the 'controversial' issues for a moment, does the ESVSB add value to the Logos library? Are the 'standard' notes and articles useful? Historical data? Customs and Manners information?

It's the best Study Bible there is, in my opinion.

Another very good study Bible is the Reformation Study Bible of which R.C. Sproul is the general editor.

Soli Deo Gloria,

Randy

Ken McGuire

I've not been overly impressed with the notes. They're good, but they don't rise much above the pack of similar study Bibles. But it's a study Bible, expectations shouldn't be that high.I often have my NIV Study Bible open while working and find it to be generally better - but it's not available in Logos (yet?! please!).

While technically true, I have enjoyed the Concordia Self-Study Bible for years, and that is just a very slight rewrite of the NIV Study Bible.

SDG

Rich DeRuiter

I've not been overly impressed with the notes. They're good, but they don't rise much above the pack of similar study Bibles. But it's a study Bible, expectations shouldn't be that high.I often have my NIV Study Bible open while working and find it to be generally better - but it's not available in Logos (yet?! please!).

While technically true, I have enjoyed the Concordia Self-Study Bible for years, and that is just a very slight rewrite of the NIV Study Bible.

SDG

I just searched the Logos web site and don't see it for sale there. How would one obtain it (I wouldn't have to become ELC or LCA, would I)? [:)]

William

Richard, I hope not [:)] Try Concordia publishing house

Mark Barnes

I often have my NIV Study Bible open while working and find it to be generally better - but it's not available in Logos (yet?! please!).

Zondervan have replaced it with a new version to match the 2011 text. It looks stunning in print (full colour, great design), but the notes are pretty much the same as the original NIV Study Bible: http://bbhchurchconnection.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/the-2011-niv-study-bible-first-impressions/

Ken McGuire

I've not been overly impressed with the notes. They're good, but they don't rise much above the pack of similar study Bibles. But it's a study Bible, expectations shouldn't be that high.I often have my NIV Study Bible open while working and find it to be generally better - but it's not available in Logos (yet?! please!).

While technically true, I have enjoyed the Concordia Self-Study Bible for years, and that is just a very slight rewrite of the NIV Study Bible.

SDG

I just searched the Logos web site and don't see it for sale there. How would one obtain it (I wouldn't have to become ELC or LCA, would I)?

I caught a sale when I got it, but...

http://www.cph.org/p-29-niv-concordia-self-study-cd-rom.aspx?SearchTerm=self%20study%20bible