What is more useful in Libronix 3.0g ? (especially compared to Logos 4.5a)
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tom collinge said:Bob Pritchett said:
I do not expect we'll add table support to notes anytime soon. It introduces too much complexity in user interface and too much "word processing" functionality. it's possible we'll add the ability to paste a table from a book, but very unlikely we'll add the ability to create tables, add rows, columns, etc.
This would be great. Please do not forget to update the import notes command. I still have to use L3 for a good number of my notes have tables. I search using L4 and I read in L3.
There is a work-around. When I want a table in my L4 notes, I construct it in Word and copy it into my notes. You can't construct one directly in notes, but that doesn't mean you can't insert a table.
george
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DMB said:
familiar with clicking on a resource name in L3 and it opening to a floating window. It can then be positioned wherever you like (most of the time I simply want something from that resource quickly, closing immediately thereafter).
I too would appreciate the ability to force a popup window to float... am trained in Windows to use the ctrl-left-click key combo, but that doesn't work in L4. I'd sure appreciate if it did... and consistently opened a new FLOATING window. I love the idea of right click access to same, but even more I'd like the hot-keys... still working to minimize the number of times I have to mouse...
Thanks for listening...
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Bob Pritchett said:Rosie Perera said:
- Open to a designated layout (not merely last layout you closed with) (see here)
I think we can add this. Need to figure out where -- presently "Customize" on the Home Page controls if we open to the Home Page or not, but doesn't seem like where you'd put this setting. But putting it somewhere else would put "what happens at startup" in two places.
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George Somsel said:tom collinge said:Bob Pritchett said:
I do not expect we'll add table support to notes anytime soon. It introduces too much complexity in user interface and too much "word processing" functionality. it's possible we'll add the ability to paste a table from a book, but very unlikely we'll add the ability to create tables, add rows, columns, etc.
This would be great. Please do not forget to update the import notes command. I still have to use L3 for a good number of my notes have tables. I search using L4 and I read in L3.
There is a work-around. When I want a table in my L4 notes, I construct it in Word and copy it into my notes. You can't construct one directly in notes, but that doesn't mean you can't insert a table.
This is a work around. Sometimes I do not have Word open, and I am coping from another program. Therefore, starting up another program just to past into L4 is only a work around IMHO.
Because I still use L3 (a good number of my notes do not transfer over to L4 very well), I still add all of my notes in L3.
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[Y]Bob Pritchett said:for a display technology we may leave.
All I can say is that I hope so (IMHO, the sooner the better).
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tom collinge said:
Because I still use L3 (a good number of my notes do not transfer over to L4 very well), I still add all of my notes in L3.
Although my only notes are highlights, I still find myself doing all those in L3 because it enables me much more simply to isolate them from anything I'm doing in L4. And the increasing difficulty is that the longer I continue to use L3 for these classroom teaching aids, the more difficult it is to import one into L4... (How do you bring over just one note?)
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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BillS said:tom collinge said:
Because I still use L3 (a good number of my notes do not transfer over to L4 very well), I still add all of my notes in L3.
Although my only notes are highlights, I still find myself doing all those in L3 because it enables me much more simply to isolate them from anything I'm doing in L4. And the increasing difficulty is that the longer I continue to use L3 for these classroom teaching aids, the more difficult it is to import one into L4... (How do you bring over just one note?)
I don't import just one note. I first delete all of my notes in L4, and then I re-import all of them. I once tried it without delete my old notes, but I ended up with dups. This process use to take my computer close to a week of 24/7 processing. Now, because of the changes that they have made, it only takes a few hours. I do not know if this would work or not for highlights (because highlights are now notes in L4).
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tom collinge said:
I first delete all of my notes in L4, and then I re-import all of them.
Yep.. the only process that exists... I only have one note file left in L3 that I care about... the one with teaching highlights in it for classroom time for a specific course. I'd like to bring it over. But there's no way to take one L3 note over, & I like having access to the ones I've already moved to L4--and no longer want to delete & re-import (in case I've added anything there).
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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BillS said:tom collinge said:
I first delete all of my notes in L4, and then I re-import all of them.
Yep.. the only process that exists... I only have one note file left in L3 that I care about... the one with teaching highlights in it for classroom time for a specific course. I'd like to bring it over. But there's no way to take one L3 note over, & I like having access to the ones I've already moved to L4--and no longer want to delete & re-import (in case I've added anything there).
I have over 100 note files in L3. When I am working with my notes in L3, I will move the file to a different location so that I do not see them. Can you move your note files that you do not want to import to a different folder (so L4 does not see them). Now, you should be able to Import the one note file. Then you can move the files back after the import has completed.
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BillS said:
How do you bring over just one note?
Move all notes except the one you wish to incorporate in L4 onto some other medum (such as a flash drive). Prepare that one note then import it into L4.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:
Move all notes except the one you wish to incorporate in L4 onto some other medum (such as a flash drive). Prepare that one note then import it into L4.
You & Tom are right, George... sometimes the obvious escapes me. LOL
Blessings to you both...
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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Bob Pritchett said:Rosie Perera said:
- Open to a designated layout (not merely last layout you closed with) (see here)
I think we can add this. Need to figure out where -- presently "Customize" on the Home Page controls if we open to the Home Page or not, but doesn't seem like where you'd put this setting. But putting it somewhere else would put "what happens at startup" in two places.
wondering about moving this whole setting under Program Settings and calling the new section something like Logos4 Startup with options for layouts and options for Home page
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toughski said:
wondering about moving this whole setting under Program Settings and calling the new section something like Logos4 Startup with options for layouts and options for Home page
For those of us who never use the home page, access to all settings in Settings is much more intuitive rather than some in settings, some on home page.
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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[Y]BillS said:toughski said:wondering about moving this whole setting under Program Settings and calling the new section something like Logos4 Startup with options for layouts and options for Home page
For those of us who never use the home page, access to all settings in Settings is much more intuitive rather than some in settings, some on home page.
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“Customize” – Located at the bottom left of the ‘Home Page’ have no bearing on the other settings listed under “Program Settings”.
I have played with these extensively to see if they did and they do not, these settings appear to only affect the Home Page. But I could be wrong…..Anyone have some pics?
DISCLAIMER: What you do on YOUR computer is your doing.
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Room4more said:
But I could be wrong
No, you are not wrong.
Logos owner Bob was "musing" about a possible location to add a choice related to saving/loading "Current Layout" etc. [probably because there is a button within "Customize" to cancel/preclude "Home Page" from opening at start-up].
Presently "Customize" operates as you assume--to control Home Pagecontent.
Regards, SteveF
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Room4more said:
settings appear to only affect the Home Page
There's one "setting" that appears ONLY on the home page: favorite bible... to me, that's a counter-intuitive location, given that I ALWAYS open to either a layout or a blank screen...
Grace & Peace,
Bill
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I came across something else in another thread:
In Logos 3 it was possible to automatically apply colour to imported text in a sentence diagram. Can't do this in Logos 4:
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Rosie Perera said:
I came across something else in another thread:
In Logos 3 it was possible to automatically apply colour to imported text in a sentence diagram. Can't do this in Logos 4:
Peace in the Lord, Rosie! ......... and ........... Always Joy! *smile*
Personally I am pleased tha L3.0g Sentence Diagrams imported into L4 DO retain their colour.
Here's a sample from one of the diagrams Terry Cook shared with us here on the forums...
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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Milford Charles Murray said:
Personally I am pleased tha L3.0g Sentence Diagrams imported into L4 DO retain their colour.
Here's a sample from one of the diagrams Terry Cook shared with us here on the forums...
Oh good, so that means it's already implemented internally and it's just a matter of adding the UI back in for people to be able to apply these colors in L4. Personally, I don't use sentence diagramming, but I only posted that shortcoming in this thread in the interest of completeness, as I thought we were trying to come up with a catalog of all the features they have left to implement if they were going to try to do so, which I know they're not, but it's still an interesting exercise to list them all.
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So, I used handouts for the first time for my upcoming Men's Ministry breakfast. I like how it worked. Now, I understand that it is a bit kludgey. On that note, how about a design of a template for Microsoft Word or some other application? Also, Testing and response is slow and I think a faster responding tool would be a lot more inviting. I think it has potential, but a tool that can quickly be generated from notes, outlines, etc. would be really nice. I hope you keep and expand it.
Remaining in Him (1 John 2:28), Robert
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I miss the ability to do a graphical search query on any Bible, not just syntactically tagged Greek/Hebrew Bibles.
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Not much-mine is no longer working! I told the representative that several features are missing but he assured me all that are on the Libronix 3.0 is now on the Logos 4, but I maintained that that assumption is in error. Now you have proved it, thank you very much.
Now, being right is one thing, but having a solution is quite another thing altogether. So, what now? Hundreds and hundreds of dollars are now gone! They should fix these things-have you made them aware of your list? I am just saying.
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Ok, Dr Bobby. You're going to have to be a teensy bit more specific.
It's true I get compensated as a cheerleader for Libronix (the right to buy more Libronix books!!). Took me maybe 7 years competing but I worked hard.
But Logos5 sure has some power.
You must need something very specific.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Dr. Bobby Adams said:
Not much-mine is no longer working! I told the representative that several features are missing but he assured me all that are on the Libronix 3.0 is now on the Logos 4, but I maintained that that assumption is in error. Now you have proved it, thank you very much.
Now, being right is one thing, but having a solution is quite another thing altogether. So, what now? Hundreds and hundreds of dollars are now gone! They should fix these things-have you made them aware of your list? I am just saying.
Peace to you, and welcome to these Logos Forums. The forum says this is your first post; but I seem to remember you from the past, perhaps the old Logos news groups?
I have been so pleased with Libronix and Logos over the many years I've been using Logos Bible Study Software. I started in 1993, I believe, which is coming up 20 years! How wonderful it has been, culminating in Logos 3.0g. (Which I have installed and have working well on this computer i7 - Windows 8! *smile* )
Harry mentioned in the post above yours about the one item, actually an item which I never really used that is not yet in the successors to Logos 3.0g. He said, " miss the ability to do a graphical search query on any Bible, not just syntactically tagged Greek/Hebrew Bibles."
However, other than this, as far as I am concerned, everything else is there! Some aspects of notes I don't like as well. ... some aspects of notes I like better! Same with a few other things. In my late 70's I realise that "life goes on"! *smile*
A workable Logos 3.0g sits on this very computer; however, basically unused. Right now I don't need the disk space; although when I do need the space (with tears in my eyes, possibly!) I will uninstall. Actually I have over 7,000 Logos Resources including Language studies. I open up 3.0g now and again; but usually "just for fun" and for "the wonderful memories"!
Logos 3.0g has been wonderful! I will always truly treasure my many years with 1.6, 2, 3 and so on; However, indeed, Logos 4 is a whole new world -- now I am into Logos 5 and it's fast and incredible. I could never go back.
I know that we often read the posts of a few saying that Logos 4 and Logos 5 are not nearly as good or productive or friendly or whatever ......
I hear them; however, I do not understand them. Nor do I understand you when you say, "Hundreds and hundreds of dollars are now gone!" My friend, Logos has promised that you will never lose the use of a resource purchased through them, at least that's how I understand it. Many Logos users on these forums who bought Logos resources through 3rd party vendors have also discover Logos supports their old purchases.
You can access your resources free in Logos 4 right now .......... And very, very soon in Logos 5. We will help you plug in! (Assuming that you have an adequate computer and access to the internet!) (The world is indeed changing, eh??? *smile*
If you want some of the newer stuff that Logos 5 can accomplish, of course there is a charge for that (an upgrade required!); but you are required by no one to own those special extra features.
Philippians 4: 4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........
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