Bug: A search for Apollos in the New Testament does not list 1 Cor 16:12 in NIV
Now about our brother Apollos: I strongly urged him to go to you with the brothers. He was quite unwilling to go now, but he will go when he has the opportunity. - 1 Corinthians 16:12
A search for "Apollos:" also does not list 1 Cor 16:12. The "k" superscript after Apollos: apparently is connected to the word. This does not happen in other instances where a reference marker follows a word. Maybe it is because it follows a colon?
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Ken - I am unsure why 16:12 isn't appearing. Here is a screen shot for others to look at:
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This does look like a tagging error -- and not only for Apollos. A search for Achaia doesn't find 2Cor 1:1 which has a colon and footnote reference after it.
EDIT:
Also 'idols' doesn't find 1Cor 8:4 which has colon and footnote reference
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Is it just the NIV, because I did All Bibles and it shows the verse..
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same for Achaia - listed
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Which bible translation(s) are you searching within? It would generally be helpful for searches of you omitted the colon following apollos.
Adding that colon can confuse search results in bible translations that don't include it.
Thanks,
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Hunter Clagett said:
Which bible translation(s) are you searching within? It would generally be helpful for searches of you omitted the colon following apollos.
It's with the NIV (LLS:NIV2011) -- We're not including the colon in the search term. The search isn't returning hits which have a colon and a footnote after them.
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A search through Matthew for similar formatting showed that these were also missed:
Abraham - Mt. 1:1
all - Mt. 5:34
see - Mt 23:5
However these words were formatted in the same way, and were found:
fulfilled - Mt. 2:17; Mt 27:9
God - Mt 26:63πάντα εἰς δόξαν θεοῦ ποιεῖτε
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Hunter Clagett said:
Which bible translation(s) are you searching within? It would generally be helpful for searches of you omitted the colon following apollos.
My screen shot should answer all your questions [:P]… It was NIV and the colon was omitted.
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Interesting that while NIV (2011) doesn't find Apollos in 1 Cor 16:12, a search in NIV (84) does
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Graham Criddle said:
Interesting that while NIV (2011) doesn't find Apollos in 1 Cor 16:12, a search in NIV (84) does
But if the speculation of "punctuation plus footnote/reference marker" causing this bug is correct, then that's to be expected, as NIV 84 doesn't have a reference marker here.
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Here's your answer:
The colon is hard linked to the word. When you have problems like this, check the Search dropdown. (And if you're ambitious and/or in a helpful mode, do a search of your entire library for the 'words' that shouldn't be there, and report all instances as typos.)
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fgh said:
The colon is hard linked to the word.
Interestingly enough, when "Apollos:" is selected in the search drop-down, Logos still does not find 1 Corinthians 16:12 in the NIV.
fgh said:if you're ambitious and/or in a helpful mode, do a search of your entire library for the 'words' that shouldn't be there, and report all instances as typos
Since L4 will not find those instances—even when search is populated from the drop-down—this would be a very difficult endeavor [8-|]
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fgh said:
The colon is hard linked to the word. When you have problems like this, check the Search dropdown. (And if you're ambitious and/or in a helpful mode, do a search of your entire library for the 'words' that shouldn't be there, and report all instances as typos.)
Yep, I realized that--but did you try that search? Searching for 'Abraham:' actually searches for 'Abraham' and doesn't find those where it is hard linked to the word. A right click on one of these word shows that the word is hardlinked with the colon and following footnote number. However even searching from here will not find this occurrence.
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Jack Caviness said:
Since L4 will not find those instances—even when search is populated from the drop-down—this would be a very difficult endeavor
I guess I should have tried one, but I've done so many of these searches for words with figures hard linked to them, that I thought I had better things to do than to search for this. Should have remembered that you can't search for punctuation, and thus not for this. [:$]
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fgh said:
No need for the red face. You provided useful information related to the problem. Logically, one would expect L4 to find any string of characters appearing in the drop-down. I ran the search to see if there were any other metadata errors other than 1 Corinthians 16:12 and was surprised that L4 conducted a normal search for Apollos.
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I would like to hear back from Hunter/Logos that they agree this is their problem and they're on it.
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Jack Caviness said:
Interestingly enough, when "Apollos:" is selected in the search drop-down, Logos still does not find 1 Corinthians 16:12 in the NIV.
Concur plus learned a wildcard search for Apollos* does find 1 Corinthians 16:12 in the 2011 NIV:
Keep Smiling [:)]
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learned a wildcard search for Apollos* does find 1 Corinthians 16:12 in the 2011 NIV:
Veerry Interesting [8-|]. Seems to me that this is an obvious tagging problem with the NIV. Now, Hunter should have just about all the information he/Logos needs to fix this problem.
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Rosie Perera said:
I would like to hear back from Hunter/Logos that they agree this is their problem and they're on it.
Bumping just to call this to Hunter's/Logos's attention
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I can confirm that this is an indexing bug, and have filed a case for it.
Update: It's actually a resource bug that has been fixed with an updated NIV 2011.
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Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
I can confirm that this is an indexing bug, and have filed a case for it.
Thanks Bradley.
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Gary O'Neal said:Bradley Grainger (Logos) said:
I can confirm that this is an indexing bug, and have filed a case for it.
Thanks Bradley.
Seems to be fixed with the update to NIV 2011 (and may need the upgrade to 4.5b SR-1).
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
Seems to be fixed with the update to NIV 2011 (and may need the upgrade to 4.5b SR-1).
Correct: this bug turned out to be in the resource itself, so we've republished it to fix this issue.
(The Logos 4.5b SR-1 update is unrelated.)
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