Jonathan Edwards' most used commentary on Community pricing!

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  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 1,148 ✭✭

    Also in, be very happy to have this in my Library

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  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Would love to have this in my library also ..........         therefore, I just bid       $63.49 Canadian Dollars!     *smile*

                                                     Psalm 29:11

    Also in, be very happy to have this in my Library

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Liam
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    Bump! I'm noticing that a lot of CPs are moving faster! Lets see this one get some traction!!!

    Is anyone else interested in getting this into production?

  • Liam
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    Here's a sample of Romans 2:1-16:

    Romans 2:1-16

    The Apostle discourses more particularly of those who knew their duty, and yet acted contrary to it; and of the condemnation they must expect from God; that so he might properly introduce the particular charge he had to advance against the Jews, as, above all others, answering that character.

    Paraphrase

    2 I have just been speaking of the great and aggravated guilt of those, who not only do things which they know to be displeasing to God, and evil in themselves, but also agree together to countenance those that do them. And it may be, asome who know they are not of that number, but, on one principle or another, bear their testimony against the prevailing immoralities of those about them, may imagine themselves secure and happy. I must, therefore, argue from the premises just laid down, that you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are that judges, and pretends to pass sentence upon others: for I know what the character of such generally is, and I know that the very best of them all have their blemishes and faults; and therefore I may say, that wherever you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge, bdo the same things in many instances, and consequently art convicted out of your own mouth. 2 For we know in general, that the judgment of God is according to truth and justice, against all those who do such things, however they may behave towards their fellow sinners. 3 And can you then, by the sentence which you pass on others, think to evade that which goes forth against you? Or do you reason, O man, whosoever you are, whether Pagan philosopher or Jewish teacher, who judges those that do such things, while you do them yourself, that you should escape the judgment of God? 4 Or is your heart so obdurate, as to make light of those judgments which thou must certainly meet, because they are not immediately executed: and doest thou indeed despise the riches of his cgentleness and forbearance, and longsuffering, exercised towards you for such a length of time, so as to think it may be safely trifled with? Surely if you do, you are shamefully ignorant indeed, as not knowing, that the goodness and gentleness of God leads you to repentance. He bears with you, that you may prevent the threatened blow, by humbling yourself before him, and forsaking your sins. 5 But this day of mercy and grace has its limits; and however you may flatter yourself now, the consequence will soon appear fatal, and you will find, to your unutterable confusion, that by this hardness and impenitence of thy heart, you are treasuring up to yourself more abundant store of wrath, in the day of final wrath, and of that revelation of the righteous judgment of God, which is now, as it were, under a veil, and so disregarded because unseen; but it shall then be set forth to view, in all its luster and terror. 6 The Divine Being is indeed a most gracious and indulgent Father; but be it known to you, that he is also the wise and holy governor of the universe; who will recompense every man according to his works, in the final distribution of good and evil, however unequal his present dispensations may seem. 7 To those generous and elevated souls, that are not discouraged by present difficulties, nor ensnared by the allurements of the world, but amidst them all, by a patient and persevering course of well doing, seek for glory, and honor, and immortality, he will graciously render the great prize they pursue, even eternal life. 8 But to the perverse and ungrateful dchildren of contention, who quarrel with the merciful dispensation that should have saved them, and are obstinately disobedient to the dictates of truth, but servilely obedient to the usurped and base tyranny of unrighteousness, perversely opposing the evidence of true religion, because they are averse to its practical design, [he will render] a quite different portion. For them is reserved all that can be imagined most dreadful; eindignation shall be conceived, and wrath shall break forth against them; 9 The sharpest tribulation, the most hopeless and inextricable anguish and despair, which shall be poured out in a torrent of unmingled misery, even upon every soul of man who works that which is evil. This shall be rendered fto the Jew in the first place, who far from escaping by his superior advantages and privileges, will, by the abuse of them, be obnoxious to distinguished wrath. Nor shall the Greek escape, who shall be judged according to the light he has enjoyed, or the opportunity he had of enjoying more. 10 But, as I said before, and repeat it with pleasure, as the more delightful part of the subject, which I love to dwell upon; glory, honor, and peace [shall be] recompensed to every one who works good first to the Jew, who stands fairer (in virtue of the Divine revelation he enjoys) for distinguished degrees of it, as well as receives the first messages of this salvation; and then to the Greek, who, if he does not exclude himself, shall not be exempted from his proper share. 11 For there is no partial gacceptance of persons with God, which should engage him on account of outward condition, or lineal descent, to spare obstinacy and wickedness in a Jew, or to reject the humble faith and obedience of a Gentile. 12 And he will fully display this impartiality of administration in the great day of universal judgment; for as many as have hsinned without the Mosaic law, and have continued impenitent in their crimes, shall without the law iperish; the light of nature, without the knowledge of revelation, being sufficient to condemn them. And as many as have sinned under the instruction and obligation of the law, shall with proportional severity be judged by the law, and meet with a more awful sentence, as their offences have been aggravated by such express discoveries of the Divine will: 13 For not the men who are merely respectful hearers of the law of God in the synagogues, or loud and vehement applauders or defenders of it elsewhere, [are] just before God, nor will he ever accept any encomiums upon it, instead of the obedience it demands; but the doers of the law, who steadily and universally, in the tenor of their lives, act agreeably to its precepts; they, and they only, shall be justified, in the day of final audit and account; whether their knowledge of it were more or less express. 14 For when the Gentiles, who have not written revelation of the Divine law, do, jby an instinct of nature, and in consequence of the untaught dictates of their own mind, the moral duties required by the precepts of the law, these having not the benefit of an express and revealed law, are nevertheless a law to themselves: the voice of nature is their rule, and they are inwardly taught, by the constitution of their own minds, to revere it as the law of that God by whom it was formed. 15 And they who are in this state, do evidently show the work of the law in its most important moral precepts, written upon their hearts, by the same Divine hand that engraved the Decalogue upon tables given to Moses; their consciences joining to bear witness to it, and [their] mutual reasonings among themselves, accusing those that break such precepts, or defending those who observe them, attest the same thing, 16 As therefore there are sure traces of some natural knowledge of the law, a due regard will be maintained towards them, and on this most equitable principle will the grand process be conducted, in that awful day when God shall judge the secrets of the hearts of men by Jesus Christ, kaccording to the tenor of that glorious dispensation which I may call my gospel, as it is committed to my care; in which no doctrine is more important, or evident, than that of a universal and most impartial judgment.

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    Let us revere the righteous judgment of God, which is here laid before us in so particular and affecting a manner; remembering we are each of us to have our part in that day of final retribution, and that the secrets of our hearts will then be made manifest. Let us often reflect upon the awful result; and consider, that indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish will be our portion, if we are contentious and disobedient to the truth, yea, if we do not, by a patient continuance in well doing, seek the promised glory, honor, and immortality; which, if we do, we shall, through the grace of God, secure everlasting life. Vain will our knowledge and our profession otherwise be, and our testimony against the sins of others will only inflame the guilt of our own.

    Let it ever be remembered, that the goodness of God, which we have such daily reason to acknowledge and adore, gently takes us, by the hand, and leads us to repentance; and while we continually live upon it, let us not act in contempt of it, or abuse it to our own inconceivable detriment. Is the wrath already laid up so small, that we should be increasing the treasure? Increasing the terrors of the day of wrath, and revelation of the righteous judgment of God?

    It will be a most impartial, as well as important day. Nor are we concerned to know how the heathen will fare in it: let it suffice us, that if they are condemned, they will be righteously condemned; not for remaining ignorant of the gospel they never had an opportunity of hearing, but for violating those precepts of the Divine law which were inscribed on their consciences. Let us bless God that he has written it there, and reverence the traces of his hand on our own minds; always remembering, that the discoveries of revelation were never intended to erase or discredit the dictates of nature, but to illustrate and confirm them.

    We shall be judged by the dispensation we have enjoyed; and however devoutly we may hear and speak of it, shall be condemned, if we have not acted agreeably thereto. The Lord grant that we may all find that mercy of the Lord, which we shall every one of us need in that day; and that we may find it, may we keep that day continually in view, and direct all our actions with a regard to its grand decisions.

    Notes

    aa2:1 Some who know that they are not of that number.] There is a greater delicacy in the apostle's transition here, than most commentators have imagined. From what he had before said, to prove the most abandoned and ignorant of the heathens inexcusable in their wickedness, he justly infers, that the crimes of those who had such knowledge of the truth as to condemn the vices of others, were proportionately yet more inexcusable. This was evidently the case with the Jews but he does not directly speak of them till the ninth verse; but draws the inference at first in such general terms as might also comprehend Gentile philosophers, and all others who contradicted the moral instructions which they themselves gave.

    bb2:1 Doest the same things.] Dr. Whitby shews, by many very proper quotations, chiefly from Josephus, that the Jews of that age were guilty of many of those the crimes which had been enumerated above, See Joseph, de Bello Judaic, lib. v. cap. 13, [al. 16,] § 6, and lib. vii. cap. 8, [al. 28,] § 1, Edit. Havercamp.

    cc2:4 Gentleness, forbearance, and longsuffering.] Mr. Blackball (Sacr. Class. Vol. I. p. 306) enlarges on the great emphasis of these words in the original. He thinks χρηστότητος  [gentleness] signifies benevolence and generosity in the general, ἀνοχῆς [forbearance] mercy in the proposals of pardon and happiness to fallen creatures, and μακροθυμίας [longsuffering] patience in attending so long on such obstinate wretches. I have given what I take to be the most exact rendering of each; but did not judge it convenient to protract the paraphrase of so lively a passage, by attempting these in many words to illustrate it.

    dd2:8 Children of contention.] Mr. Locke thinks that patience in the former verse, and contention here, refer to the malignant enmity with which the Jews endeavored to exclude the Gentiles From the church, Compare Gal. 1:7; 1 Tim. 6:4, 5; but it seems much better to explain it in a latitude which shall indeed include this, as one instance of obstinacy and perverseness, without contracting that extensive and important sense which our interpretation gives. And that the contention of the Gentiles is included here, evidently appears by the conclusion of the sentence.

    e2:8 Indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish.] Here seems to be a reference to those expressive words, Psa. 78:49, when speaking of the Egyptians, it is said, “he cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble”. And it may finely intimate, that the Jews would, in the day of vengeance, be more severely punished than even their Egyptian enemies were, when God made their plagues so wonderful. στενοχωρία [anguish] (v. 9) properly signifies straitness; and is used by Xenophon to signify a narrow way, that cannot be passed. See Raphel. Not. ex Xen. in loc. As for the difference between ὀργὴ [indignation] and θυμός [wrath] Eisner (Observ. Vol. ii. p. 14) takes some pains to show, that the former signifies the first conception of anger the latter a desire and purpose of punishing. Some reference to this interpretation will be found in the paraphrase, though expressed as briefly as possible.

    ff2:9 To the Jew first.] Here we have the first express mention of Jews in this section; and it is introduced with great energy and weight. Their being trained up in the knowledge of the true religion, and having Christ and his apostles first sent to them, will place them in the foremost rank of the criminals who obey not the truth.

    gg2:11 Acceptance of persons.] That is, in passing the final sentence, he is determined by their real characters. This is very consistent with an equality in distributing advantages and opportunities of improvement, according to the sovereign pleasure of the great Lord of all. This assertion of the apostle's, so often repeated, will appear the more important and seasonable, as the Jews thought that no Israelite should be deprived of future happiness, whatever his faults had been; unless he were guilty of apostasy, idolatry, and a few other very enormous crimes, See Mr. Jortin's Discourses concerning the Truth of the Christian Religion, p. 26, 27, and the notes there.

    hh2:12 Sinned without the Mosaic Law.] It is evident that must here be intended; for none can sin without the natural law, under which all are born.

    ii2:12 Perish - be judged.] These two phrases are so different, that one would hardly think they were intended to signify the same ideas; yet so many arguments, both from reason and revelation, lie against supposing wicked heathens annihilated, as Mr. Locke seems to insinuate from these words, that I think it most rational to interpret both these expressions as signifying real punishment, but in different degree.

    jj2:14 By nature.] Rapheliiu (Not. ex Xen. in loc.) shows, that animals are said to do that by nature which they do by instinct; and Eisner, (Observ. Vol. II. p. 16) that τὰ τοῦ νόμου [duties required by the law] signifies the duties inculcated by the law.

    kk 2:16 According to my gospel.] Nothing is more contrary to the apostle's meaning, as expressly declared above, than that all men are to be judged by the gospel. He only means, that the gospel teaches such a judgment. Therefore, transposing the last clause renders it, very plainly and properly, “In the day when God shall, according to my gospel, judge the secrets of men.” Mr. Mace transposes the whole sixteenth verse to join it with the twelfth; and I think it very evident, the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth verses come in as a parenthesis: but the transposition of verses seems a dangerous thing; though I think, in some evident cases, that of a few words may be pardoned, considering the different genius of ancient and modem, eastern and western, languages.

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Bump! I'm still hoping we'll see this one gain some progress! It's been forever since the needle has moved on it!

  • abondservant
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    I'm dissapointed this wasn't in the Reformed Base packages since Jonathan Edwards relied upon this so heavily.

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  • Robert Harner
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  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    I'm dissapointed this wasn't in the Reformed Base packages since Jonathan Edwards relied upon this so heavily.

    That'd be nice! At least it would be guaranteed to make it to production! 

  • Robert M. Warren
    Robert M. Warren Member Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭

    $30 is probably not enough for a resource of over 9K pages. I'm in at $50 for over a year

    I've been in at $60 for  quite a while.

    At least Logos hasn't toyed with our emotions on this one, doing the CP 2-Step as they have done with Baptist Covenant and Hastings-5.  [:'(]

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  • abondservant
    abondservant Member Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭

    Liam said:

    I'm dissapointed this wasn't in the Reformed Base packages since Jonathan Edwards relied upon this so heavily.

    That'd be nice! At least it would be guaranteed to make it to production! 

    Indeed - I'm at 60$ if I remember correctly.

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  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Yeah I think everyone will have to up their bids. Looking at the status bar, if everyone in at $20 and $30 moved their bid to $40 the status would be at about 80% (40% + 30% + 10% roughly). If everyone were to bid $60 it would probably make it through!

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Also here's a community pricing set that Doddridge has a great recommendation for! Get in fast before it closes!

  • Robert Harner
    Robert Harner Member Posts: 461 ✭✭

    Liam said:

    Also here's a community pricing set that Doddridge has a great recommendation for! Get in fast before it closes!

    Or get a Lutheran package that includes it!

  • Tom
    Tom Member Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭

    Or get a Lutheran package that includes it!

    Which one? Post the Link please! 

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  • Robert Harner
    Robert Harner Member Posts: 461 ✭✭

    Tom Rach said:

    Liam said:

    Also here's a community pricing set that Doddridge has a great recommendation for! Get in fast before it closes!

    Or get a Lutheran package that includes it!

    Which one? Post the Link please!

    Click on Liam's link above. It opens up the Francke set Liam said Doddridge recommended and on the right you will see all the Lutheran packages that include it

  • Otis Gouty
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  • Tom
    Tom Member Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭

    Click on Liam's link above. It opens up the Francke set Liam said Doddridge recommended and on the right you will see all the Lutheran packages that include it

    Thanks, did not see it [:(]

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  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Missed this previously, but I'm in now!

    Awesome! I thought I might be over doing all the bumps, but it's great that people who were unaware are still finding this resource!

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Bump! Still very little progress in a very long time!

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Here's another bump to get these great works into pre pub! Please bid and reply if you're excited about these works!!!

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    For those interested, I started a personal book of Doddridge's Expositor with internet links to the doc on archive.org. I'll probably need some help with it to get it done in any reasonable amount of time, but feel free to help out or just download the file if you would like it.

    See this forum conversation.

  • Michael Lyman
    Michael Lyman Member Posts: 671 ✭✭

    I just bought "The Cause of God and Truth" and "A Complete Body of Doctrinal and Practical Divinity"!!!

    https://www.logos.com/product/45644/a-complete-body-of-doctrinal-and-practical-divinity

    https://www.logos.com/product/45647/the-cause-of-god-and-truth

    Don't know why this hasn't been advertised... but I'm thankful!!

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Another Bump!

    This set has been in community pricing for over 3 years now! Please consider upping your bid on this set if you are excited about it! I'm sure if more people knew of this set, and it's connection with Edwards it would get through community pricing pretty quickly! 

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Out of frustration with not being able to find Doddridge's Expositor anywhere, I decided to self publish it in 2 huge volumes. For those interested, who have probably shared my frustration, you can find both volumes for sale now at Lulu in both hardback and paperback. My hope is that these sets will only increase your desire to get this amazing work into Logos!

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Liam said:

    Out of frustration with not being able to find Doddridge's Expositor anywhere, I decided to self publish it in 2 huge volumes. For those interested, who have probably shared my frustration, you can find both volumes for sale now at Lulu in both hardback and paperback. My hope is that these sets will only increase your desire to get this amazing work into Logos!

    Another bump for this great commentary. Here's the link again to the Logos page. Hoping this will eventually get through. It's been almost 3 years now since this first went up on community pricing.