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  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,466

    Pentecostal

    Author:(“Bartel, Leroy”, “Bicket, Zenas”, “Cotton, Roger”, “Duffield, Guy”, “Ford, Johnny”, “Hayford, Jack”, “Hernando, James”, “Horton, Stanley”, “McClaflin, Mike”, “McGee, Gary”, “Moller, F. P.”, “Newberry, Annette”, “Synan, Vinson”, “Taylor, Cheryl”) OR Publisher:(“L.I.F.E. Bible College”)

    I would change it for the following:

    Pentecostal

    Author:(“Bartel, Leroy”, “Bicket, Zenas”, “Cotton, Roger”, “Duffield, Guy”, “Ford, Johnny”, “Hayford, Jack”, “Hernando, James”, “Horton, Stanley”, “McClaflin, Mike”, “McGee, Gary”, “Moller, F. P.”, “Newberry, Annette”, “Synan, Vinson”, “Taylor, Cheryl”) OR Publisher:(“L.I.F.E. Bible College”, "Logion Press", "Gospel Publishing House", "Global University")

    P.S. What about Gordon Fee?

    Bohuslav

  • Don Awalt
    Don Awalt Member Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭

    Great lists, thanks.

    I found two typos, in the Anabaptist list there is a missing quote (") before Twisk, and in Seventh Day Adventist there is a missing quote before White, Ellen G.

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams Member, MVP Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭

    Great lists, thanks.

    I found two typos, in the Anabaptist list there is a missing quote (") before Twisk, and in Seventh Day Adventist there is a missing quote before White, Ellen G.

    I would add change the spelling to "Seventh-day Adventist"

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,838 ✭✭✭

    Lutheran

    Let me suggest 

    Author:(“Arand, Charles P.”, "Arndt, Johann", “Becker, Matthew L.”, “Bonhoeffer, Dietrich”, “Dorner, Isaak August”, “Engelbrecht, Edward A.”, "Gerberding, George",“Gerhard, Johann”, "Giertz, Bo", “Gritsch, Eric W.”, “Hinlicky, Paul R.”, “Jeske, John C.”, “Jungel, Eberhard”, “Kittleson, James M.”, “Kolb, Robert”, “Kysar, Robert”, “Lenski, R. C. H.”, “Leupold, H. C.”, “Luther, Martin”, "Lutheran Church" , "Lutheran Synod", "Mann, William Julius" ,“Michel, Walter L.”, “Nestingen, James A.”, “Richard, James W.”, “Schramm, Brooks”, "Schmucker, Samuel", “Spener, Philip Jacob”, “Steinmann, Andrew E.”, “Stjerna, Kirsi I.”, "Tappert, Theodore" ,“Torvend, Samuel”, “Valentine, Milton”, “Veith, Gene Edward”, "Walther, C.F.W.", “Wengert, Timothy J.”) OR Publisher:(“Concordia”, “Lutheran”, “Northwestern Publishing House”)

    which will bring the Lutheran lectionaries, Giertz' fictional "Hammer of God" and some of the excellent PBs into it without giving too much false positives.

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,838 ✭✭✭

    Also, in addition to

    Arminian-Wesleyan

    we'd probably need

    Arminian, Classical

    my first take: author:("Arminius", "Forlines", "Olson, Roger", "Picirilli, Robert") OR publisher:"Randall House"

    and maybe some from the Arminian-Wesleyan tag should be brought over - or we collapse into Arminian / Wesleyan without distinction and add these authors (who all are baptists rather than methodists). EDIT: Logos does so and carries e.g. http://www.logos.com/product/9429/arminian-theological-studies-collection as such.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would it be accurate to put the publishers Christianity Today, Kregel, Moody and The Gospel Coalition under Evangelical?

    I would also suggest a new category for Unitarian/Universalist with an initial rule of publisher:"American Unitarian Association"

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  • albert cox
    albert cox Member Posts: 1

    I think that logos is not aware of the material they put up for com. pricing.They just offer products and people are the ones that control what is offered.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've finally gotten my unclassified segment down to < 1/3. The group within the black arc are the ACELO churches whose resources I have sought out.

    The additional changes I made to the suggestions above:

    Pre-reformation add:
    Saint Patrick
    Andrew of Crete
    Dante Alighieri
    Hugh of Saint Victor*
    Pachomius
    Francis of Assisi*

    Catholic add:
    Cornelius a Lapide *
    Desiderius Eramus

    Anglican/Episcopalean add:
    Myles Coverdale
    Paul F. Bradshaw
    H. D. M. Spence
    Henry Barclay Swete
    John Newton

    Evangelical add:
    Tokunbon Adeyemo
    Spiros Zodhiates
    Barbour
    Christianity Today
    Crossway
    The Gospel Coalition
    IVP
    Kregel
    Moody

    Presbyterian add:
    Joseph Addison Alexander
    Hans Dieter Betz
    Alfred Edersheim

    Wesleyian
    Ben Witherington III
    David A. deSilva

    Jewish add:
    Flavius Josephus
    Philo of Alexandria
    Marvin A, Sweeney

    Orthodox add:
    Sebastian P. Brock
    Gorgias Press

    Lutheran add:
    Rudolf Bultmann
    Adolf von Harnack

    those with a star existed in the lists but not in all forms required to pick up as authors. There are a number of German scholars I believe to be Lutheran but have yet to verify beyond "Protestant",

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,838 ✭✭✭

    Would it be accurate to put the publishers Christianity Today, Kregel, Moody and The Gospel Coalition under Evangelical?

    My take: CT probably yes, don't know about the breadth of books puiblished by Kregel or Moody. TGC no, they belong to reformed.

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Lutheran

    Let me suggest 

    Glad you caught Giertz, but you're still missing some other Swedes: Krister Stendahl, Lars Hartman, Cristina Grenholm and Sigurd Bergmann. As well as Søren Kierkegaard, Oskar Skarsaune, and (probably) Reidar Hvalvik. I don't have time to check out the other Norwegians and Danes (the other Swedes don't seem to be Lutheran).

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,838 ✭✭✭

    Lutheran

    Let me suggest 

    Glad you caught Giertz, but you're still missing some other Swedes: Krister Stendahl, Lars Hartman, Cristina Grenholm and Sigurd Bergmann. As well as Søren Kierkegaard, Oskar Skarsaune, and (probably) Reidar Hvalvik. 

    Yes, I probably am. However, my heuristic was to compare the collection with my existing tag "Lutheran", based on my library. 

    author:(Stendahl, Hartman, Grenholm, Bergmann, Kierkegaard, Skarsaune, Hvalvik) gives 

    where the fiction book is a false positive from my lazy input and Kierkegaard in my mind was more of a philosopher than a Lutheran theologian, but I concede you have a point here - and surely a larger population of Swedish authors than I have (Stendahl is the only name that rings a bell for me, but  http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=author%3astendahl currently yields only a $200 Pauline theology collection gathering interest on PrePub)

     

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  • Andrew Baguley
    Andrew Baguley Member Posts: 641 ✭✭✭

    This is my latest attempt to tidy up the Arminian category.  Corrections & suggestions still welcome.  Thanks for all those already given.

    Arminian-Wesleyan

    Author:(“Abraham, William J.”, “Allen, O. Wesley”, “Anderson, Cheryl”, “Banks, J. S.”, “Barker, Margaret”, “Barrett, C. K.”, “Bassler, Jouette M.”, “Beardslee, William A.”, “Beet, Joseph Agar”, “Bell, Daniel M.”, “Bence, Clarence”, “Bence, Philip”, “Bennett, Stephen J.”, “Black, Robert”, “Blaney, Harvey J. S.”, “Bounds, Chris”, “Bounds, Edward M.”, “Bowne, Borden P.”, “Branson, Robert D.”, “Brecheisen, Jerry”, “Brower, Kent”, “Brown, Teresa L. Fry”, “Burns, Jabez”, “Burr, J. K.”, “Byassee, Jason”, “Callen, Barry”, “Cameron, Ron”, “Carr, David M.”, “Carter, Charles W.”, “Carver, Frank G.”, “Case, David A.”, “Castelo, Daniel”, “Clarke, Adam”, “Cobb, John B.”, “Cockerill, Gareth Lee”, “Cole, Otis”, “Coleson, Joseph”, “Colon-Emeric, Edgardo A.”, “Cookes, R. J.”, “Cox, Leo G.”, “Davis, Patricia H.”, “Dayton, Wilber T.”, “De Vries, Simon J.”, “Deasley, Alex”, “Deems, Charles F.”, “DeNeff, Steve”, “DeSilva, David A.”, “Dongell, Joseph”, “Drury, David”, “Drury, Keith”, “Dunnam, Maxie D.”, “Earle, Ralph”, “Eaton, E. L.”, “Eckley, Richard K.”, “Eckman, George P.”, “Edlin, Jim”, “English, Donald”, “Etheridge, John Wesley”, “Failing, George E.”, “Findlay, George G.”, “Flemming, Dean”, “Fletcher, John”, “Furnish, Victor Paul”, “Gaebelein, Arno”, “Garlow, James”, “Greathouse, William”, “Green, Joel B.”, “Grider, J. Kenneth”, “Grotius, Hugo”, “Gunter, W. Stephen”, “Hahn, Roger”, “Haines, Lee”, “Hall, Bert H.”, “Hanke, Howard A.”, “Harrison, Nick”, “Hartley, John E.”, “Hays, Richard B.”, “Heath, Elaine A.”, “Heer, Ken”, “Hibbard, F. G.”, “Hinson, David F.”, “Holdren, David W.”, “Holmes, Mark A.”, “Hughes, Henry Maldwyn”, “Hughes, John”, “Hunter W.”, “Hurlbut, Jesse Lyman”, “Johnson, Derric”, “Jones, Kenneth E.”, “Kampen, John”, “Kelle, Brad E.”, “Keppel, David”, “Kim, H. C. P.”, “King, George W.”, “Kinlaw, Dennis”, “Kisker, Scott”, “Kufeldt, George”, “Kuhns, Oscar”, “Lane, William L.”, “Lawson, John”, “Lennox, Stephen J.”, “Leroy, Matt”, “Lidgett, John Scott”, “Lipscomb, Christy”, “Livingston, George Herbert”, “Lofthouse, W. F.”, “Long, Stephen”, “Love, William DeLoss”, “Lull, David J.”, “Lynn, Jack”, “Lyon, Jo Anne”, “Lyons, George”, “Marcus, Joel”, “Marshall, I. H.”, “Marsh, Clive”, “Martin, William Wallace”, “McClung, Ronald”, “Mellish, Kevin J.”, “Merrill, S. M.”, “McIntosh, Gary L.”, “McLintock, John”, “Miles, Rebekah L.”, “Miley, John”, “Modine, Mitchel”, “Moulton, James Hope”, “Neale, David A.”, “Nelson, Richard D.”, “Newhall, Fales H.”, “Nicholson, Roy S.”, “Noll, K. L.”, “Nutter, Charles S.”, “Piesker, Armor D.”, “Pope, R. Martin”, “Pope, William Burt”, “Powers, Daniel”, “Rall, Harris Franklin”, “Raymond, Miner”, “Ries, Claude A.”, “Ringe, Sharon”, “Rotz, Carol”, “Rummel, Stan”, “Schenck, Kenneth”, “Schmidt, Wayne”, “Serrao, C. Jeanne Orjala”, “Shelton, R. Larry”, “Shrewsbury, W. J.”, “Smith, David”, “Smith, D. Moody”, “Smith, Thornley”, “Steel, Daniel”, “Stevenson-Moessner, Jeanne”, “Stevenson, Richard Taylor”, “Strong, James”, “Summers, Jeremy”, “Sumner, Sarah”, “Switzer, David K.”, “Tannehill, Robert C.”, “Terry, Milton Spenser”, “Thompson, David L.”, “Thompson, R. Duane”, “Thompson, W. Ralph”, “Tillett, Wilbur F.”, “Tobie, Willard Nathan”, “Toler, Linda”, “Toler, Stan”, “Tuell, Steven S.”, “Turner, George A.”, “Varughese, Alex”, “Wall, Robert W.”, “Walters, J. Michael”, “Warner, Laceye”, “Watkins, James N.”, “Watson, David F.”, “Watson, Richard”, “Wesley, Charles”, “Wesley, John”, “Wharton, James A.”, “Whedon, D. D.”, “Whitefield, George”, “Whitesel, Bob”, “Williams, Henry W.”, “Williams, Wilbur Glenn”, “Williamson, Rick”, “Willimon, William H.”, “Wilson, Charles R.”, “Wilson, Earle”, “Wilson, Neil S.”, “Wilson, Norman G.”, “Woolsey, Warren”, “Workman, George Coulson”, “Workman, Herbert B.”, “Zahniser, Clarence H.”) OR Publisher:(“Beacon”, “Methodist”, “Wesleyan”)

    Non-Wesleyan Arminian

    Author:(“Arminius”, “Crowson, Milton”, “Davidson, William F.”, “Dodd, Damon C.”, “Ellis, Daryl”, “Forlines, F. LeRoy”, “Harrison, Paul V.”, “Marberry, Thomas L.”, “Melvin, Billy A.”, “O’Donnell, J. D.”, “Olson, Roger”, “Outlaw, Stanley”, “Picirilli, Robert”, “Pinson, J. Matthew”, “Pugh, Gwyn L.”, “Shaw, Craig D.”, “Simpson, Douglas J.”, “Stallings, Jack Wilson”) OR Publisher:("Randall House")

  • Eleanor Emmott
    Eleanor Emmott Member Posts: 173 ✭✭

    I've finally gotten my unclassified segment down to < 1/3. 

    M.J. - how did you generate this chart?

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I cheated and used Excel. I'm going to modify the categories slightly as well. Pre-reformation doesn't quite work for me ... I'm going:

    • Orthodox-Oriental for Syriac/Nestorian
    • Gnostic
    • Pre-schism for up to 1042
    • Orthodox-Byzantine for Byzantine-based Orthodox
    • Pre-reformation for post-schism Western Church

    Admittedly, some sections are not brimming with resources but ... I have come to the conclusion that I don't know what Evangelical is. I understand it doesn't include the historical European Evangelical churches. But I now understand that not every publisher in the Evangelical Publishers Association are Evangelicals - they may be Lutheran or Reformed.

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  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,733 ✭✭✭

    But I now understand that not every publisher in the Evangelical Publishers Association are Evangelicals - they may be Lutheran or Reformed.

    Nowadays everyone has their own definition of evangelical.  I do find it curious that yours excludes Lutherans and Reformed.  How are you defining it?

    The ECFA has a definition that is based on their statement of faith (http://www.ecpa.org/?page=about_ecpa)---meaning "evangelical" equals believing believe those 7 things, which I don't think excludes Lutherans or Reformed.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do find it curious that yours excludes Lutherans and Reformed.

    Reformed as per NB Mick's response to me above. Lutheran because they are liturgical which gives them a sufficiently different worldview than most evangelicals that I find it useful to emphasize the Lutheran aspect in classification. To some extent I treat Evangelical/evangelical similar to Catholic/catholic.

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  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning Member, MVP Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭

    I cheated and used Excel. I'm going to modify the categories slightly as well. Pre-reformation doesn't quite work for me ... I'm going:

    • Orthodox-Oriental for Syriac/Nestorian
    • Gnostic
    • Pre-schism for up to 1042
    • Orthodox-Byzantine for Byzantine-based Orthodox
    • Pre-reformation for post-schism Western Church

    Admittedly, some sections are not brimming with resources but ... I have come to the conclusion that I don't know what Evangelical is. I understand it doesn't include the historical European Evangelical churches. But I now understand that not every publisher in the Evangelical Publishers Association are Evangelicals - they may be Lutheran or Reformed.

    MJ, do you mind sharing your search criteria for Gnostic?

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  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,733 ✭✭✭

    I do find it curious that yours excludes Lutherans and Reformed.

    Reformed as per NB Mick's response to me above. Lutheran because they are liturgical which gives them a sufficiently different worldview than most evangelicals that I find it useful to emphasize the Lutheran aspect in classification. To some extent I treat Evangelical/evangelical similar to Catholic/catholic.

    Mick's in Europe, I believe, and I think "evangelical" may have a more narrow definition over there, whereas in the US, it has a big-tent aspect to it that ignores particulars and focuses on commonalities.

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, though they are fuzzy terms, I don't know any definition of Evangelical (or evangelical) that is mutually exclusive with denominations. Its a classification that spans across denominations. There are plenty of Presbyterians who are also Evangelical, most Baptists and Pentecostals are probably Evangelicals, and I would guess a fair number of Lutherans and Reformed and Arminian-Wesleyan folks would also fit most definitions of Evangelical. And there's an overlap between Evangelicals and Fundamentalists. Probably most Fundamentalists (except the most extreme one-track-minded ones) are Evangelicals but not the other way around. The classic definition of evangelicalism is David Bebbington's:

    • Conversionism: the belief that lives need to be transformed through a “born-again” experience and a life long process of following Jesus.
    • Activism: the expression and demonstration of the gospel in missionary and social reform efforts
    • Biblicism: a high regard for and obedience to the Bible as the ultimate authority
    • Crucicentrism: a stress on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross as making possible the redemption of humanity

    I'm being intentionally vague about the difference between evangelical and Evangelical because I really don't know how to distinguish them. There is a particular characteristic of some types of evangelicals/Evangelicals who think they own the word and exclude from that category others they feel don't meet their criteria (but who themselves do feel they identify with the term), which makes it hard to know the boundaries. There's also the more recent phenomenon of those who used to identify as evangelical but who are distancing themselves from that word because of the current fuzziness and because of certain negative connotations (exclusivism, judgmentalism, idenitification with a political party) of the more conservative brand of evangelicalism.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,838 ✭✭✭

    I do find it curious that yours excludes Lutherans and Reformed.

    Reformed as per NB Mick's response to me above. Lutheran because they are liturgical which gives them a sufficiently different worldview than most evangelicals that I find it useful to emphasize the Lutheran aspect in classification. To some extent I treat Evangelical/evangelical similar to Catholic/catholic.

    Mick's in Europe, I believe, and I think "evangelical" may have a more narrow definition over there, whereas in the US, it has a big-tent aspect to it that ignores particulars and focuses on commonalities.

    It's actually more complex, which surely has to do with the fact that I read much more over in the US than at home.  

    The "big-tent" aspect ignores certain particulars (e.g. about baptism and ecclesiology) but not all of them. Rosie cited a classic description of evangelicalism, and there are evangelical individuals in many traditions that affirm these four distinctives (from Roman Catholic [Francis Beckwith] through all protestant denominations) - however, many denominations themselves can't be classified as "evangelical". This goes for theological liberals concerning the bible, but also for High Lutherans and those Reformed who despise conversionism and activism for theological reasons.

    Moreover, being evangelical would require to apply the "big tent" thinking to co-evangelicals.

    To sum up, there are reformed evangelicals, but not all reformed are evangelical and not all evangelicals are reformed, and so on.

    Of course, everyone can do the tagging as they like, and for someone who defines "evangelical" with "conservative Christian" this may look different. My take above would be that "Reformed" is likely a more precise label for TGC than "evangelical". Which will mean that D.A. Carson appears in two categories (writes for WEA as well as TGC).    

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  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "big-tent" aspect ignores certain particulars (e.g. about baptism and ecclesiology) but not all of them. Rosie cited a classic description of evangelicalism, and there are evangelical individuals in many traditions that affirm these four distinctives (from Roman Catholic [Francis Beckwith] through all protestant denominations) - however, many denominations themselves can't be classified as "evangelical". This goes for theological liberals concerning the bible, but also for High Lutherans and those Reformed who despise conversionism and activism for theological reasons.

    Here is an excerpt from the introduction to Routes and Radishes: And Other Things to Talk about at the Evangelical Crossroads, co-written by a friend of mine. It's an excellent book for anyone remotely interested in the question of what is evangelicalism today, where is it going, and how can we navigate these waters?

    Evangelicalism. The word conjures up a whole host of images and connotations, and depending on who you talk to, it can be an exclusively negative term, an exclusively positive term, or some shade in between. But what is it exactly? Though it is undeniably linked to Christianity, most people would agree it is not a church, it is not a denomination, and it is not synonymous with Protestant, though it may be a subset of Protestantism. But is it a culture? A theology? A lifestyle? A political stance? The only way to authentically be Christian? An odious expression of Christianity which ought to go away?

    In recent years, much has been made of Evangelicalism in the media—television, film, books, newspapers, magazines, radio. But it seems like the same voices are continually referenced—Billy Graham, John Stott, Mark Noll, David Bebbington, Os Guinness, David Wells, Chuck Swindoll, Luis Palau, Rick Warren, and so on—and while these voices are undeniably significant, one thing they have in common is that they all belong to the previous generation.

    The debate about Evangelicalism is not going away anytime soon, and the conversation must continue, but who in the next generation will pick up where the previous generation has left off? Here is a book by five younger Evangelicals who are up-and-coming leaders from diverse backgrounds in terms of theology, institution, ethnicity, vocation, denomination, geography, ecclesiology, education, and gender. For example, just in terms of denomination, we are (or have been) Presbyterian, Evangelical Free, Baptist, Evangelical Covenant, Christian and Missionary Alliance, Mennonite, Pentecostal, Congregationalist, Assemblies of God, Methodist, and Emerging. Despite this diversity, all of us not only claim the title Evangelical for ourselves but care to see it flourish. We do not want to let go of it, but at the same time, we recognize that the kingdom of God is so much more than Evangelicalism. Yet we consider Evangelicalism to be such an important element, at least for now, that we are not ready to give up on it. The term’s flexibility of use can be a huge detriment, but we prefer to see that as a big advantage.

    Clearly, the word Evangelical is a wide umbrella, though that realization must be tempered by the recognition that there are boundaries. This book will aim to delineate the boundaries, explore the intersections, and highlight the wide-open spaces in which Evangelicalism can roam.

    Russell, Mark L.; Yeh, Allen L.; Sanchez, Michelle; Stearns, Chelle; Friesen, Dwight J. (2010-11-02). Routes and Radishes: And Other Things to Talk about at the Evangelical Crossroads (Kindle Locations 33-52). Zondervan. Kindle Edition.

    CONTENTS

    Cover

    Title Page

    INTRODUCTION: ON-RAMP CHARTING THE COURSE

    ALLEN'S HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE: WHO ARE EVANGELICALS?

      CHAPTER ONE: THE ROAD WE TRAVEL

      CHAPTER TWO: THE ROAD AHEAD

    MICHELLE'S TRINITARIAN PERSPECTIVE: WHO IS THE GOD OF EVANGELICALS?

      CHAPTER THREE: WHO IS OUR GUIDE?

      CHAPTER FOUR: FINDING OUR WAY WHEN WE FIND OUR GUIDE

    MARKS MISSIONAL PERSPECTIVE: WHAT IS OUR MISSION?

      CHAPTER FIVE: HOW EVANGELICALS GO OFF THE ROAD

      CHAPTER SIX: GETTING EVANGELICALS BACK ON THE ROAD

    CHELLE'S ARTISTIC PERSPECTIVE: WHO ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY?

      CHAPTER SEVEN: ROCK STAR WORSHIP

      CHAPTER EIGHT: THE HOLY SPIRIT AND WORSHIP

    DWIGHT'S CONTEXTUAL PERSPECTIVE: HOW DO WE RELATE TO OTHER CHRISTIANS IN THE FUTURE?

      CHAPTER NINE: CELEBRATING THE CONSTRUCTION CREW THROUGH OUR REARVIEW MIRROR

      CHAPTER TEN: EVANGELICALS VISIT THE OPTOMETRIST

    CONCLUSION: OFF-RAMP A GENERATIVE CONVERSATION AT THE CROSSROADS

    AFTERWORD by Lynne Hybels: BON VOYAGE Wisdom for the Journey Ahead

  • Sleiman
    Sleiman Member Posts: 672

    Just a quick post to thank all of you for your efforts to create and continually improve the list. very useful. And to Rosie for her educational posts.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The classic definition of evangelicalism is David Bebbington's:

    • Conversionism: the belief that lives need to be transformed through a “born-again” experience and a life long process of following Jesus.
    • Activism: the expression and demonstration of the gospel in missionary and social reform efforts
    • Biblicism: a high regard for and obedience to the Bible as the ultimate authority
    • Crucicentrism: a stress on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross as making possible the redemption of humanity

    I find this has a broad overlap with my gut sense of evangelical but misses a sense of individual (vs. corporate) that seems to be a common thread. It also "hides" some important characteristics in coded language "born-again", "high regard" etc. I think the problem is compounded by the self-titled "non-denominational" groups many of which historically trace to evangelicals.

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  • Andrew Baguley
    Andrew Baguley Member Posts: 641 ✭✭✭

    Finally found time to update the Lutheran list - see below.  Thanks again for the corrections and suggestions.  Feel free to keep them coming.

    Lutheran

    Author:(“Aageson, James W.”, “Adam, Klaus-Peter”, “Aden, LeRoy H.”, “Albrecht, G. Jerome”, “Albrecht, Michael J.”, “Arand, Charles P.”, “Arndt, Johann”, “Aus, Roger David”, “Balge, Richard D.”, “Bartusch, Mark Walter”, “Becker, Matthew L.”, “Bergmann, Sigurd”, “Bohlmann, Ralph A.”, “Bonhoeffer, Dietrich”, “Bornkamm, Heinrich”, “Braun, John A.”, “Braun, Mark”, “Brighton, Louis”, “Brown, Christopher Boyd”, “Brug, John F.”, “Bultmann, Rudolf K.”, “Chemnitz, Martin”, “Childs, James M.”, “Choi, Agnes”, “Croy, N. Clayton”, “Dahle, Lars Nielsen”, “Danker, Frederick W.”, “Delitzsch, Franz”, “Deterding, Paul”, “DiTommaso, Lorenzo”, “Dorner, Isaak August”, "Ehlke, Roland Cap", “Eickmann, Paul E.”, “Elert, Werner”, “Elliott, John H.”, “Engelbrecht, Edward A.”, “Erickson, Richard J.”, “Franzmann, Martin H.”, “Gard, Daniel L.”, “Gench, Frances Taylor”, “Gerberding, George”, “Gerhard, Johann”, “Gibbs, Jeffrey A.”, “Giertz, Bo”, “Gosdeck, David M.”, “Grenholm, Cristina”, “Gritsch, Eric W.”, “Hagglund, Bengt”, “Hahn, Ernest”, “Hals, Ronald”, “Harrisville, Roy A.”, “Harstad, Adolph L.”, “Hartman, Lars”, “Hartzell, Eric S.”, “Hedahl, Susan K.”, “Heider, George C.”, “Hengel, Martin”, “Hengstenberg, Ernst Wilhelm”, “Hinlicky, Paul R.”, “Hoerber, Robert G.”, “Honsey, Rudolph E.”, “Hughes, Robert G.”, “Hultgren, Arland J.”, “Hummel, Horace D.”, “Huwiler, Elizabeth”, “Hvalvik, Reidar”, “Jacobson, Rolf A.”, “Jensen, Richard A.”, “Jeremias, Joachim”, “Jeske, John C.”, “Jeske, Mark A.”, “Johnson, Thomas F.”, “Juel, Donald H.”, “Jungel, Eberhard”, “Just, Arthur A.”, “Keil, Karl Friedrich”, “Kierkegaard, Soren”, “Kittelson, James M.”, “Klein, Ralph W.”, “Kleinig, John W.”, “Koehler, Edward W. A.”, “Koehler, John Philip”, “Koenig, John”, “Kolb, Erwin J.”, “Kolb, Robert”, “Krentz, Edgar”, “Krodel, Gerhard A.”, “Kuschel, Harlyn J.”, “Kuschel, Kieth Bernard”, “Kuske, David P.”, “Kuske, Paul W.”, “Kysar, Robert”, “Labahn, Michael”, “Lathrop, Gordon W.”, “Lauersdorf, Richard E.”, “Lawrenz, John C.”, “Lehmann, Helmut T.”, “Lenski, R. C. H.”, “Lenz, Mark J.”, “Lessing, R. Reed”, “Leupold, H. C.”, “Limburg, James”, “Linman, Jonathan”, “Lochhaas, Philip H.”, “Lockwood, Gregory J.”, “Lundbom, Jack R.”, “Luther, Martin”, “Lutheran Church”, “Lutheran Synod”, “Mann, William Julius”, “Martin R. A.”, “Mather, George A.”, “Maxey, James A.”, “McCain, Paul T.”, “Melancthon, Philip”, “Meyer, Joh P.”, “Michel, Walter L.”, “Michie, Donald”, “Mitchell, Christopher”, “Mittelstaedt, John R.”, “Mueller, John Theodore”, “Myers, Jacob M.”, “Nestingen, James A.”, “Nichols, Larry A.”, “Nieman, James R.”, “Nordling, John”, “Oakman, Douglas E.”, “Pannenberg, Wolfhart”, “Panning, Armin J.”, “Pieper, Francis”, “Powell, Mark Allen”, “Prange, Victor H.”, “Preus, Robert D.”, “Quivik, Melinda A.”, “Raabe, Paul R.”, “Reitschel, William C.”, “Remensnyder, Junius B.”, “Reumann, John H. P.”, “Rhoads, David”, “Richard, James W.”, “Roehrs, Walter R.”, “Ruge-Jones, Philip”, “Saarinen, Risto”, “Santmire, H. Paul”, “Scaer, David P.”, “Schaller, John”, “Schmidt, Andreas”, “Schmit, Clayton J.”, “Schramm, Brooks”, “Schmucker, Samuel”, “Schuetze, Armin W.”, “Seiss, J. A.”, “Senn, Frank C.”, “Skarsaune, Oskar”, “Smith, Robert H.”, “Solvang, Elna K.”, “Spaude, Cyril W.”, “Spener, Philip Jacob”, “Spitz, Lewis W.”, “Steinmann, Andrew E.”, “Stendahl, Krister”, “Stephenson, John R.”, “Stevens, Marty E.”, “Stjerna, Kirsi I.”, “Stob, William S.”, “Streufert, Mary J.”, “Tappert, Theodore G.”, “Taylor, Walter F.”, “Tiede, David L.”, “Toppe, Carleton”, “Torvend, Samuel”, “Valentine, Milton”, “Valleskey, David J.”, “Veith, Gene Edward”, “von Harnack, Adolf”, “von Mosheim, John Laurence”, “Walther, C. F. W.”, “Wendland, Ernst H.”, “Wendland, Paul O.”, “Wengert, Timothy J.”, “Wenthe, Dean O.”, “Westendorf, James J.”, “Wicke, Harold E.”, “Wilch, John R.”, “Wolfgramm, Arno J.”) OR Publisher:(“Concordia”, “Lutheran”, “Northwestern Publishing House”)

    Other Lutherans (contributed to Lutheran Study Bible)

    Author:("Adams, David L.", "Andrae, Eric R.", "Baker, Robert C.", "Benne, Robert", "Bischof, Jon C.", "Brazeal, David", "Brunette, Jan", "Burgland, Lane A.", "Bustamante, Roberto E.", "Cage, Peter C.", "Carr, William W.", "Dunker, Gary L.", "Eschelbach, Michael A.", "Espinosa, Alfonso O.", "Flechsig, Lin", "Fløysvik, Ingvar", "Francisco, Adam S.", "Fryar, Jane L.", "Fynn, Paul Kofi", "Gerike, Henry V.", "Gieschen, Charles A.", "Giese, Curtis P.", "Graff, Warren W.", "Harrison, Matthew C.", "Hartwig, Raymond L.", "Henrichs, Michael W.", "Horpynchuk, Vyacheslav", "Humann, Roger J.", "Joersz, Jerald C.", "Johnson, Douglas W.", "Kalme, Guntis", "Kellerman, James A.", "Kienker, Paul D.", "Kim, Hyo-Jong", "Kim, Chul Hwan", "Kleinig, Vernon P.", "Kloha, Jeffrey", "Koyra, Eshetu Abate", "Lamb, James I.", "Lewis, David I. M.", "Love, Mark W.", "Lytkin, Vsevolod", "Maas, Korey", "Maier, Walter A.", "Maschke, Timothy H.", "Mayes, Benjamin T. G.", "Middendorf, Michael P.", "Mueller, Steven P.", "Murray, Scott R.", "Nadasdy, Dean W.", "Nielsen, Glenn A.", "Omolo, Joseph Tom", "Omwanza, Walter Obare", "Paavola, Daniel E.", "Pearce, Fraser A.", "Pietak, Stanislaus", "Popp, Kevin P.", "Quirk, Reginald C.", "Rathmann, Rodney L.", "Ritter, Larry D.", "Rottmann, Erik J.", "Saleska, Timothy E.", "Sawyer, J. Richard", "Scaer, Peter J.", "Schaum, Charles P.", "Schmitt, Frederick A.", "Scholz, Vilson", "Schuchard, Bruce G.", "Schulz, Charles R.", "Seltz, Gregory P.", "Semeklis, Remigijus", "Simojoki, Anssi", "Slenczka, Reinhard", "Small, Terry S.", "Smith, Michael K.", "Smith, Robert E.", "Sorensen, Robert A.", "Stanley, V. Indrenath", "Steiner, Mark G.", "Stolle, Volker", "Stube, John C.", "Stuckwisch, D. Richard", "Surburg, Mark P.", "Touloute, Paul", "Tswaedi, David", "Vogel, Larry M.", "Walther, Michael P.", "Weber, Karl A.", "Winger, Thomas M.", "Yow, Jesse L.")

    Additional Suggestion

    OR Publisher:(Augsburg, Fortress)

    NB: Augsburg-Fortress is the publishing house of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, but it does not just publish Lutheran works, and so would provide many false positives, such as Systematic Theology: Roman Catholic Perspectives by Galvin and Schuessler-Fiorenza, and books by Moltmann and Brueggemann.

  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning Member, MVP Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭

    Wow Andrew. That's quite some list of Lutherans! I've updated my collection with this new information. Thanks.

    I've been thinking that it would be great if this could be done automatically as part of Logos.

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  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Wow Andrew. That's quite some list of Lutherans! I've updated my collection with this new information. Thanks.

    I've been thinking that it would be great if this could be done automatically as part of Logos.

    Thanks indeed, Andrew!        *smile*

              Yes, Bruce!     It would be really wonderful to have the automatic update!           My mind doesn't work as well as it used to; and when I'm having a "Senior's Moment," I seem not to be able to remember where I made a note!             *smile*                 Peace!

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  • Don Awalt
    Don Awalt Member Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭

    Andrew, this is great work, thanks. Are you saying there should be a denomination group "Other Lutherans"? I am not sure what to do with this group, I have all the other groups set up as Collections  Thanks!

  • Andrew Baguley
    Andrew Baguley Member Posts: 641 ✭✭✭

    Andrew, this is great work, thanks. Are you saying there should be a denomination group "Other Lutherans"? I am not sure what to do with this group, I have all the other groups set up as Collections  Thanks!

    Apologies for not being clear, Don.  There is no separate denomination involved.  Both lists contain Lutherans linked to various church bodies.  However, the second list is made up of people who contributed to The Lutheran Study Bible but have not authored any other resource I have found that Logos has released.  That means that a full list for Lutheran would include all the extra names, but these names will not actually add any additional resources to the Lutheran collection within Logos, so they are probably not worth including in the list of Lutherans making up the collection.  I listed them more for completeness and in case the list is useful in the future or for other purposes.  

    When I started making these lists, I was aiming for a minimal approach to building collections, but as I haven't yet hit the limit for making rules for collections, I have switched to a more definitive approach.  This has the advantage of automatically including more resources as Logos adds them.  For example, the only resources that Logos publishes that have been authored by Ernst H. Wendland are all picked up by the rule Publisher:(Northwestern Publishing House).  However, by including Wendland's name in the list, if Logos releases anything by him from another publisher, then it will be automatically picked up by the Lutheran Collection.  This applies to all of the names in the Lutheran Study Bible list as well, but it seemed to be stretching the point a little to include all of those names, so I've left it to individuals to decide whether to include them or not.  Hope that's clear.

    Glad this is proving useful to others.  Thanks for the thanks.

  • Don Awalt
    Don Awalt Member Posts: 3,521 ✭✭✭

    Thank you Andrew for the reply, and again great work. This is proving to be a great tool and very useful addition to my library organization!