Personal Books?

Scott Burke
Scott Burke Member Posts: 218
edited November 21 in English Forum

I'm excited to begin digging into the Word of God with L5.  I like the idea that we can share our PBB's with others.  With that said, does that mean we may be seeing our PBB's within the iPad/iPhone app (and Android too) anytime soon?  Logos, that would be really neat.  Hint, hint Wink

Tagged:

Comments

  • Paul-C
    Paul-C Member Posts: 1,896

    This would be a feature that would please A LOT of mobile app users - me included!  I believe this feature has been promised at some stage, but I haven't seen any indications as to how quickly it might be implemented.  I think it's just a case of watch this space ( - unless another forum user can chime in with more up to date info.)

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    Bob wrote yesterday that it is coming… As usual, no time tables were given. I would not expect personal books on mobile until they sync between computers… which hasn't happened yet.

    macOS, iOS & iPadOS | Logs |  Install

  • William Rodriguez
    William Rodriguez Member Posts: 49 ✭✭

    I think someone posted before that Logos has 2 main concerns about this:

    1. Copyright/Legal issues

    2. Disk space utilization

    I think the legal issues are similar to having them in the PC/Mac versions of the software so, it should not be a major concern.

    Relating the disk space utilization, I would suggest Logos impose a size limit  to PBB per user so, they can estimate/project disk space utilization in a worst or average case scenarios.

    If Logos for iOS / Android / Kindle supports synchronization for PBBs there would be a lot of Logos users very very happy, me included!!!

  • Danny Clarkson
    Danny Clarkson Member Posts: 16 ✭✭


    Until PBB books are available within Logos on the Ipad, there is a good work around.  You can read your PBB resource in iBooks, dynamically link to the Logos bible references or resources on the Ipad, then swipe back.

    Personal Book Builder on the Logos 4/5 desktop creates URL references such as logosref:BibleESV.Ps119.1-5 that work on the IPAD!  After you create the PBB book in the Logos 4/5, export to WORD and output to HTML or PDF and save to Dropbox.  Both are easily accessed on the IPAD from Dropbox using the viewer or the PDF works well in iBooks and allows for bookmarks and search.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,478

    Hi Danny

    Personal Book Builder on the Logos 4/5 desktop creates URL references such as logosref:BibleESV.Ps119.1-5 that work on the IPAD!  After you create the PBB book in the Logos 4/5, export to WORD and output to HTML or PDF and save to Dropbox.  Both are easily accessed on the IPAD from Dropbox using the viewer or the PDF works well in iBooks and allows for bookmarks and search.

    This is very helpful - thanks for sharing this.

    Appreciated, Graham 

  • Stephen
    Stephen Member Posts: 237 ✭✭

    Until PBB books are available within Logos on the Ipad, there is a good work around.  You can read your PBB resource in iBooks, dynamically link to the Logos bible references or resources on the Ipad, then swipe back.

    Personal Book Builder on the Logos 4/5 desktop creates URL references such as logosref:BibleESV.Ps119.1-5 that work on the IPAD!  After you create the PBB book in the Logos 4/5, export to WORD and output to HTML or PDF and save to Dropbox.  Both are easily accessed on the IPAD from Dropbox using the viewer or the PDF works well in iBooks and allows for bookmarks and search.

    Danny, you can also put links in Pages and have them open Logos on the iPad. I'm sure the same would work for PDF's or anything that can contain a hyperlink. That would save you from having to create a PBB just to export it so that you would ahem hyperlinks.

  • Danny Clarkson
    Danny Clarkson Member Posts: 16 ✭✭
    You are correct that the IPad will link to Logos from any document with correctly structured hyperlinks, but they need to be manually created. The beauty of PPB documents exported is that they automatically create correct hyperlinks to both bible references or other resources contained in the PPB. Saves a lot of time!
  • Lee
    Lee Member Posts: 1,148

    Could someone show examples for how to do this, for those like me that don't get this.

    Thanks

    L4 BS, L5 RB & Gold, L6 S & R Platinum, L7 Platinum, L8 Baptist Platinum, L9 Baptist Platinum, L10 Baptist Silver
    2021 MacBook Pro M1 Pro 14" 16GB 512GB SSD, running MacOS Monterey   iPad Mini 6,   iPhone 11.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 32,478

    Hi Lee

    Which bit, of the things discussed above, are you referring to?

    Graham

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Which bit, of the things discussed above, are you referring to?

    Graham, he had replied to Danny Clarkson's post just above his. You can see what post someone replied to by clicking the 'Replied' link.

  • Danny Clarkson
    Danny Clarkson Member Posts: 16 ✭✭

    Building Personal Books is documented in Logos 4/5 and also more details can be found at http://wiki.logos.com/Personal_Books . 

    Next, 

    Use the PRINT/EXPORT (Cntrl+P) function within the Logos 4/5 resource to retain formats and hyperlinks.  Export to Dropbox and read on IPAD.  I like to use pdf format and read on IPad using IBooks for quick swipe navigation to LOGOS from hyperlinks. 

    Basically, you start with a Word document, change to PBB, Export to Word, change to PDF, export to IPAD and read with IBooks.  The hyperlinks jump to your IPAD Logos as the following link if you are reading on an IPAD:  logosref:BibleESV.Ps119.1-5

    More information on hyperlinks with Logos can be found at http://wiki.logos.com/Hyperlinks

  • A. K. M. Adam
    A. K. M. Adam Member Posts: 9

    The difference between having possibly-copyrighted PBB books on your desktop and synching them to your iPad is that in the former case, Logos isn't participating in any possible copyright violation, any more than a pen and paper manufacturer would be responsible if I hand-copied my own version of Tom Wright's Paul book.

    If Logos facilitates synching, though, they're actively mediating the hypothetical copyright violation (especially if that mediation involves even temporary storage on their servers). 

    That being said, I'm eager to get my PBB copies of The Golden Legend and Egeria's Travels onto my iPad.

  • George
    George Member Posts: 476 ✭✭

    There are a few options in my view.

    1. Treat the PBBs as regular Logos book that is saved on the Logos servers for searches and what not.(which I think Logos is working on).

    2. Do NOT save the PBB on the Logos servers at all.  Instead use the Logos backend as the engine that prepares the PBB for the correct format to be used in the mobile device. I this case if I want a PBB on my device I would go to the desktop interface and use the Library desktop interface "Download to.." to start the process of pushing the PBB to the device.

    3.  Do NOT save the PBB on the Logos server at all. Instead change the desktop version of the Logos prepare the PBB for uploading to the mobile device in the required format and use the Library desktop interface "Download to.." to start the process of pushing the PBB to the device.

    4. Combination of 1 and 2 or 1 and 3.  In this case the user would decide in what way he/she wants to use a PBB..  

    Most people would be happy with 2 or 3.  It would give us the option of getting the PBBs on our devices so we can read and do simple searches and it would save Logos the headache of storing them.  It would also eliminate the need to set a size limit on a PBB.  Even synchronizing highlights and notes should be possible without getting the Logos servers involved in storing.  The Logos would be used only for getting the information from one device to the other.  

    Grace and peace!